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fatbutt

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just me said:
BTW, shipping via RORO is cheaper, but stevedores are not known for being sympathetic to cars. Their objective is to off-load as many as possible in the shortest possible time. You are safer going the container route, as nobody gets to drive the car on and off the boat. You get to put it in the container and you get to remove it. You can also ship other things in your car (they tell you not to, but it's going in a container and is perfectly safe). Look into the cost difference, it may not be as much and might be worth it since you can bung other stuff in the container as well. Also, things are generally much more expensive in the UK. See if you can arrange for shipping from the US end.

As for the temporary import route, if your visa allows, go for this to begin with. You will get to enjoy you car while the paperwork is being done.

Edited by just me on Tuesday 10th July 09:55
Have you ever imported a car?

just me

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fatbutt said:
Ah, keyboards warriors, gotta love 'em.
Are you socially challenged?

just me

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fatbutt said:
Have you ever imported a car?
Into which country?

fatbutt

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re you socially challenged?
Not that I'm aware of. You appear to have issues however - being overly aggressive to someone you have never met or is ever likely displays some interesting personality disorders.

fatbutt

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just me said:
Into which country?
Given the subject, importing to America would be a good start. Have you imported a car to America?
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just me

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Take a wild guess, fatty.

fatbutt

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Take a wild guess, fatty.
Well, my guess is no.

RJDM3

1,441 posts

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First of all let me answer tamorarobs question over the porsche being on the registered.

All the register does is state if a petition has been filed, has been accepted or denied.If the car is elligable for import to the US, You will then have to apply to NHTSA (or your RI could do this for you) for permission to import, bond will have to be provided and the your RI will have to do either a detailed inspection confirming that the car is equal to a US spec and submit that detailed report for acceptance, or they will have to make some minor or major changes to the car, followed by a detailed report which will again require acceptance from nhtsa. Regardless if the cost of the inspection or inspection and changes, you could potentially be without your new car for some time and you will not be allowed to drive the car until such a time as the nhtsa approve what your RI has done.

Back to the TVR bit.

First thing to get straight is that the speed 6 engine is NOT a US epa compliant engine, never has been and never will be. The cost to bring it even close to 45 state legal would be huge. However, saying that in many states they dont have smog/emissions checks and in those states you can pretty much have any engine in your car you like, it does not make it legal, but then again in some states if you tune your car with non EPA cert parts, your car will be classed as unlawful from a EPA standpoint.

Also the basic TVR package does not meet basic roller/chassis fmvss.

What i do (not me personally, but ex TVR engineers) is remanufactur the car to a new standard that meets all fmvss for a roller, has all appropriate markings applied, changes to engine compartment to accept LS series of engines and tremec trans. Of course the car then comes with all new paperwork and MSO etc. Car is no longer a TVR but is a T-V-R. The end result is not a dissasembled reassembled car, but is a new roller with CORRECT fmvss compontents that meet ALL DOT reg for a roller. I am registered with SAE and all rollers have new US correct VIN.

This is the short version of whats required.

Before you ask "if i have done this before?", i am have exported alot of exotic machines to the US and nearly all of what i have done over the years has been for manufacturers directly.

Hope this answers your questions etc etc blah blah smile

just me

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Thanks. I feel a lot more comfortable with your explanation. I am interested in bringing in a T-V-R Sagaris. Interested in how much it would cost to do that. You can PM me if you like.

just me

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fatbutt said:
Well, my guess is no.
Quite why you would expect me to put up with your tone is beyond me. My guess is you are indeed socially challenged.


Edited by just me on Wednesday 11th July 00:06

RJDM3

1,441 posts

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Thanks. I feel a lot more comfortable with your explanation. I am interested in bringing in a T-V-R Sagaris. Interested in how much it would cost to do that. You can PM me if you like.
I will PM all the info across tomorrow, been crazy past few days.

I forgot to also mention i can provide the car in either LHD or RHD smile

just me

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I prefer RHD as I can then kick unruly passengers out into traffic. Also helps when overtaking on the wrong (right) side. wink

Isaac Hunt

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Slight off topic question - can anyone give a ball park figure as to how much it would be to ship a car to the US (and back) and get it transported to say, Chicago?

fatbutt

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just me said:
Quite why you would expect me to put up with your tone is beyond me. My guess is you are indeed socially challenged.


Edited by just me on Wednesday 11th July 00:06
So, I'm right then huh?

RJDM3

1,441 posts

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Isaac Hunt said:
Slight off topic question - can anyone give a ball park figure as to how much it would be to ship a car to the US (and back) and get it transported to say, Chicago?
That will depend on how you ship it. on a RoRo it could start from £600/£700 or from £1500+ for container shipping (if you deliver car to port). Inland quotes vary so much depending if you use a small company or a large company like dependable, if its open trailer or enclosed.

Isaac Hunt

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RJDM3 said:
Isaac Hunt said:
Slight off topic question - can anyone give a ball park figure as to how much it would be to ship a car to the US (and back) and get it transported to say, Chicago?
That will depend on how you ship it. on a RoRo it could start from £600/£700 or from £1500+ for container shipping (if you deliver car to port). Inland quotes vary so much depending if you use a small company or a large company like dependable, if its open trailer or enclosed.
We would be looking at container. Is the £1500 one way, as we just want to take the car to the US for a month or so.


RJDM3

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I prefer RHD as I can then kick unruly passengers out into traffic. Also helps when overtaking on the wrong (right) side. wink
PM sent smile

TamoraRob

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Rjdm3- you seem to know exactly what you are talking about, I certainly appreciate the advice. Would it be possible to take the Porsche over on the temporary one year visa then transfer to the permanent one?
If my model has had the petition approved for import, I don't understand why my individual Porsche requires an inspection. Surely one model is the same as the next! What sort of waiting times/ costs are we talking about here? I'm waiting to hear back from an RI so still pretty much in the dark about the process and costs. If you could sex some more light on it I'd be grateful!
Cheers
Rob

TamoraRob

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Sorry shed more light, not sex!

RJDM3

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TamoraRob said:
Rjdm3- you seem to know exactly what you are talking about, I certainly appreciate the advice. Would it be possible to take the Porsche over on the temporary one year visa then transfer to the permanent one?
If my model has had the petition approved for import, I don't understand why my individual Porsche requires an inspection. Surely one model is the same as the next! What sort of waiting times/ costs are we talking about here? I'm waiting to hear back from an RI so still pretty much in the dark about the process and costs. If you could sex some more light on it I'd be grateful!
Cheers
Rob
Hi Rob,

The car will need some conversions which the RI will have to do. As for time waiting, that is down to nhtsa, it could be very quick couple of weeks or many weeks, there is no real answer.

You will need about 9 items changing. Most of which will be refelecting units, warning buzzers and simple glass markings etc. Look up "NHTSA-2002-12732 vol 67". Thankfully your car meets safety and bumper impact.

Dont bother wasting time trying to do a temp and then keep it permanant later. They are very strict on this and on a temp you would have to bond the car, which if not exported as agreed after the 12 month period they will bill you for the bond.

Just do a permanent import the first time.

If i was you though i would just buy one in the US. It will possibly be cheaper in the long run. But perhaps wait until the RI comes back with the cost.

Hope this makes sense..i am a little tired tonight and all these pdf's starting to look a blur to me smile
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