Sagaris in US

Sagaris in US

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WolfyJones

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945 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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Could you export a UK Sagaris just for track day use to the US?

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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WolfyJones said:
Could you export a UK Sagaris just for track day use to the US?
Yes.

K4TRV

1,819 posts

252 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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Not a specialist in this David, but using the word "Export" and USA and Yes is not correct IMVHO......different States have very different import policies?

If the OP mean "import" temporarily - then I would agree with your "yes" as it would eventually be removed/exported after a fixed period?

My experience is with living over there in the RAF and on exchange with USAF - differing licensing of wehicles, luxury taxes on cars, registration plates - Nebraska and Virgina was like living in two quite sepate countries rather than "United" States.....???

trev

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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As David said yes of course.

Mine should be going to the USA later this year for a couple of months as it is wanted for the Sema show in Vegas but I need the hassle of it all explaining first as well as the gurantees

Loach1

431 posts

141 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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Yes is right. It would have to be exclusively for off road use, and might need to be modified to convince the authorities that it is an off road car (one seat, harness, roll cage, decals, etc). There's a story on the web where some poor chap had a hard time bringing in a pucker racing Ferrari. The customs guy decided it was a road car because he could roll a coke can under it. All quite silly really, so it's worth getting a broker to help you if you decide to do it.

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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K4TRV said:
Not a specialist in this David, but using the word "Export" and USA and Yes is not correct IMVHO......different States have very different import policies?
He specified 'Track use' so it doesn't need to comply with the legislation for road use.


K4TRV

1,819 posts

252 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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V8 GRF said:
He specified 'Track use' so it doesn't need to comply with the legislation for road use.
Sorry David, just being a pedant.........track day use in my world is nothing like Exporting a car for Racing as Loach 1 reminded us.

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WolfyJones

Original Poster:

945 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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V8 GRF said:
K4TRV said:
Not a specialist in this David, but using the word "Export" and USA and Yes is not correct IMVHO......different States have very different import policies?
He specified 'Track use' so it doesn't need to comply with the legislation for road use.
Yes just track days, car would be trailed on public roads,

Thanks for replys.

geeman237

1,232 posts

185 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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Try this link. I suspect you could not permanently import the car for track use, as opposed to race use. Race use maybe, if the supporting documentation is provided (see FAQ's in the link). I think just getting it into the US the federal laws apply, then registering it, if needed is state law.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/faq%20site/...

A broker might not be willing or able to advise. They may refer you to a Register Importer. Also might depend on how diligent the US Customs are at the port of entry.

Temporary import is probably ok. Then you have to figure out how to get insurance. This seems to be a tricky one based on other threads on this forum.

I only speak from experience of importing my own car in 2004 that was over 25 years old.

In the link below, the Sagaris has been determined not eligible for the Show and Display category.
http://icsw.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/sdlist0528...

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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geeman237 said:
In the link below, the Sagaris has been determined not eligible for the Show and Display category.
http://icsw.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/sdlist0528...
That's interesting, I guess those are all cars that have been allowed into the country on the premise that they're only going to a show and then have 'disappeared' and not left the country. I know there was a lot of trouble with the American guys who 'bought' TVR from Smolenski who had been involved in dodgy deals with the various Skyline and other Japanese cars that needed federalising.

From the other threads I'd seen I didn't think that any car was excluded from the one year grace period that allowed you to take a car to the US for one year and then either federalise it or if not possible send it back to the UK?

I guess as people abuse this concession they'll be less willing to allow people to use it.

geeman237

1,232 posts

185 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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From what I understand you have to apply to see if you can bring a car in for Show & Display purposes. It must meet certain criteria like limited production <500? and have technological importance etc etc. A panel reviews it and either accepts or rejects it. If its rejected it looks like it goes on the list and that's it, no more applications will be accepted for that vehicle.

I think any car is OK for the one your temporary import regulation and no cars are banned.

There is quite a bit of abuse of the system. I think the worst offenders are old/classic minis, Land Rovers and 2CV's. They were made over a long period with few changes. I see quite a few 90's Mini's over here (USA) that are registered as sixties Mini's etc, probably some dodgey VIN plate swapping going on. Land Rover Defenders have been under a lot of scrutiny of late from what I hear.

unrepentant

21,255 posts

256 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Minefield.

A Geeman alluded to - there have been a number of nice Defenders go in the crusher recently. I personally wouldn't attempt to import anything under 25 yrs old for any purpose.

Loach1

431 posts

141 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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unrepentant said:
Minefield.

A Geeman alluded to - there have been a number of nice Defenders go in the crusher recently. I personally wouldn't attempt to import anything under 25 yrs old for any purpose.
Don't forget that the seized Land Rovers were imported illegally. Importing a race car for legitimate racing only (no road use) is not a risky venture if you comply with the law.