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Similar situation four years ago. I had owned a Noble GTO3 from new since 2003. Nine years later bought a 5 litre XKR
because I loved the styling and the performance (in a straight line) A year later I had only done 900 miles in the Noble
and 4 K in the Jag. Sold the Noble. Mistake. There's nothing at all wrong with the Jag to date and still very special to drive BUT I miss the Noble like hell. And still read the forum every day (not the same now it's full of kids)
PS I'm 63 next birthday!
because I loved the styling and the performance (in a straight line) A year later I had only done 900 miles in the Noble
and 4 K in the Jag. Sold the Noble. Mistake. There's nothing at all wrong with the Jag to date and still very special to drive BUT I miss the Noble like hell. And still read the forum every day (not the same now it's full of kids)
PS I'm 63 next birthday!
mr.man said:
Similar situation four years ago. I had owned a Noble GTO3 from new since 2003. Nine years later bought a 5 litre XKR
because I loved the styling and the performance (in a straight line) A year later I had only done 900 miles in the Noble
and 4 K in the Jag. Sold the Noble. Mistake. There's nothing at all wrong with the Jag to date and still very special to drive BUT I miss the Noble like hell. And still read the forum every day (not the same now it's full of kids)
PS I'm 63 next birthday!
The regular XKR is a lovely car but too GT for me - it's the 542 bhp S I'm considering. Have you ever tried that car? I'm hoping it will have more of an edge to it. Coincidence on the noble thing? I have an m400 (tender age of 45...) because I loved the styling and the performance (in a straight line) A year later I had only done 900 miles in the Noble
and 4 K in the Jag. Sold the Noble. Mistake. There's nothing at all wrong with the Jag to date and still very special to drive BUT I miss the Noble like hell. And still read the forum every day (not the same now it's full of kids)
PS I'm 63 next birthday!
Drive one and see if you like it. They seem to be priced around the mid 40k mark just now, that would also get you an early F-type V8 S convertible with essentially the same engine. They're detuned slightly, making around 480bhp as stock but I'd be surprised if a simple remap left you much short of the full 542.
The F-type is also a bit louder, having a more open exhaust as standard...
Oh, ETA: I have a 2008 4.2 XKR and while it is a GT car it does handle better than you'd expect. I regularly hustle it along some of Scotland's great B-roads and given a fairly smooth approach to the controls it rewards well and doesn't feel too cumbersome. I'd expect the 5.0 XKR-S to be similar but more so in those regards.
The F-type is also a bit louder, having a more open exhaust as standard...
Oh, ETA: I have a 2008 4.2 XKR and while it is a GT car it does handle better than you'd expect. I regularly hustle it along some of Scotland's great B-roads and given a fairly smooth approach to the controls it rewards well and doesn't feel too cumbersome. I'd expect the 5.0 XKR-S to be similar but more so in those regards.
Edited by 8bit on Wednesday 25th May 13:32
8bit said:
Drive one and see if you like it. They seem to be priced around the mid 40k mark just now, that would also get you an early F-type V8 S convertible with essentially the same engine. They're detuned slightly, making around 480bhp as stock but I'd be surprised if a simple remap left you much short of the full 542.
The F-type is also a bit louder, having a more open exhaust as standard...
Oh, ETA: I have a 2008 4.2 XKR and while it is a GT car it does handle better than you'd expect. I regularly hustle it along some of Scotland's great B-roads and given a fairly smooth approach to the controls it rewards well and doesn't feel too cumbersome. I'd expect the 5.0 XKR-S to be similar but more so in those regards.
I have driven the 4.2 and 5.0 xkr. Agree lovely machines, smooth, comfortable, fast and capable and better handling than I expected but too soft for me as a weekend toy.The F-type is also a bit louder, having a more open exhaust as standard...
Oh, ETA: I have a 2008 4.2 XKR and while it is a GT car it does handle better than you'd expect. I regularly hustle it along some of Scotland's great B-roads and given a fairly smooth approach to the controls it rewards well and doesn't feel too cumbersome. I'd expect the 5.0 XKR-S to be similar but more so in those regards.
Edited by 8bit on Wednesday 25th May 13:32
Yep I love the v8 F type but the fact they are already that cheap is exactly why I would be afraid to buy one. The XKRS is rarer (the fact no one so far on any forum I've tried has ever driven one is proof enough) and hence a safer place for my cash (I hope/think). Gonna try one this weekend.
I bought mine just over a year ago, and love it! I've only driven the non-S version briefly, so can't really compare the two but for me the XKR-S is sporty when you want it to be, but is also an awesome GT car when you don't. It also looks awesome - especially in blue (the best colour for one IMO), but these don't come up very often. I'd been looking for a few months before my one came up, and I've only seen a handful of blue ones for sale since then.
It depends how you define sporty though - it's a big heavy car compared to the Noble (and the Tuscan I had for 6 years), but does hide it well and seems to shrink around you when pressing on. It feels very planted compared to the TVR, and in sport mode I don't really miss having a manual.
Prices look to have dropped a bit since I bought mine as the cheapest a year ago were just under £50k. Let me know if you have any more questions!
It depends how you define sporty though - it's a big heavy car compared to the Noble (and the Tuscan I had for 6 years), but does hide it well and seems to shrink around you when pressing on. It feels very planted compared to the TVR, and in sport mode I don't really miss having a manual.
Prices look to have dropped a bit since I bought mine as the cheapest a year ago were just under £50k. Let me know if you have any more questions!
macky17 said:
Yep I love the v8 F type but the fact they are already that cheap is exactly why I would be afraid to buy one. The XKRS is rarer (the fact no one so far on any forum I've tried has ever driven one is proof enough) and hence a safer place for my cash (I hope/think). Gonna try one this weekend.
Worth noting that the XKRS has (as noted in all reviews) a serious traction problem. It's quite telling they scrapped all the XK suspension and fitted F-type components to the XK RS GT.In that case I expect you might find the R-S still a little on the GT side but they are definitely sportier than even the 5.0 XKR. Worth pointing out is that the XK Dynamic R is essentially the XKR-S in all but body kit; it got the updated suspension etc. and the exhaust from the XKR-S, so they may be worth a shot too. They still produce the 510bhp rather than 542 though, but I doubt you'd notice 30bhp in a car that powerful anyway.
Good luck though and remember the photos if you go for it
Good luck though and remember the photos if you go for it
Olivera said:
Worth noting that the XKRS has (as noted in all reviews) a serious traction problem. It's quite telling they scrapped all the XK suspension and fitted F-type components to the XK RS GT.
I've not noticed any traction issues at all, but I've been driving RWD cars with no traction control for years, so maybe have a more sensitive right foot to some. I've also driven an XKR-S GT a few months ago around Jaguar's test track, and that didn't seem a huge amount different to mine.ehasler said:
I bought mine just over a year ago, and love it! I've only driven the non-S version briefly, so can't really compare the two but for me the XKR-S is sporty when you want it to be, but is also an awesome GT car when you don't. It also looks awesome - especially in blue (the best colour for one IMO), but these don't come up very often. I'd been looking for a few months before my one came up, and I've only seen a handful of blue ones for sale since then.
It depends how you define sporty though - it's a big heavy car compared to the Noble (and the Tuscan I had for 6 years), but does hide it well and seems to shrink around you when pressing on. It feels very planted compared to the TVR, and in sport mode I don't really miss having a manual.
Prices look to have dropped a bit since I bought mine as the cheapest a year ago were just under £50k. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Finally an owner! Thanks for the reply (and everyone else). Your comments are encouraging. I know it won't be as agile as the noble or a tuscan (which I owned also before the noble) what with the laws of physics but a good compromise is surely possible and I'd like a slightly more usable weekend car.It depends how you define sporty though - it's a big heavy car compared to the Noble (and the Tuscan I had for 6 years), but does hide it well and seems to shrink around you when pressing on. It feels very planted compared to the TVR, and in sport mode I don't really miss having a manual.
Prices look to have dropped a bit since I bought mine as the cheapest a year ago were just under £50k. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Where are you looking at prices? Autotrader has a few for sale, the cheapest at £48k and all the others £50k or rather more. If that's the same as a year ago, that bodes well.
The cheapest I can find (same one on autotrader): http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
Edited by macky17 on Wednesday 25th May 21:46
8bit said:
In that case I expect you might find the R-S still a little on the GT side but they are definitely sportier than even the 5.0 XKR. Worth pointing out is that the XK Dynamic R is essentially the XKR-S in all but body kit; it got the updated suspension etc. and the exhaust from the XKR-S, so they may be worth a shot too. They still produce the 510bhp rather than 542 though, but I doubt you'd notice 30bhp in a car that powerful anyway.
Good luck though and remember the photos if you go for it
Didn't realise this. Thanks.Good luck though and remember the photos if you go for it
Mastiff said:
IMHO the next E-Type!
Values of these going the right way - maybe a little early for XKR-S but they will follow.
Good, S/C XK from 2009 onwards a good buy at the moment.
Could you clarify? Do you mean the XKR values are going the right way and the XKR-S will follow, or are you talking about the XKR-S values going the right way?Values of these going the right way - maybe a little early for XKR-S but they will follow.
Good, S/C XK from 2009 onwards a good buy at the moment.
As an owner of a 5.0 XKR I'd be interested to hear why you think they're a good buy at the moment. Might help me to justify keeping mine a bit longer
macky17 said:
Finally an owner! Thanks for the reply (and everyone else). Your comments are encouraging. I know it won't be as agile as the noble or a tuscan (which I owned also before the noble) what with the laws of physics but a good compromise is surely possible and I'd like a slightly more usable weekend car.
Where are you looking at prices? Autotrader has a few for sale, the cheapest at £48k and all the others £50k or rather more. If that's the same as a year ago, that bodes well.
The cheapest I can find (same one on autotrader): http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
I think it's a good compromise, and a good replacement for the Tuscan. It has the looks and sound (I prefer the Jag actually - maybe something to do with getting older though!), and it is pretty practical too. It also has a decent sized boot if you go with the coupe, and you've also got the two rear seats to use for luggage too.Where are you looking at prices? Autotrader has a few for sale, the cheapest at £48k and all the others £50k or rather more. If that's the same as a year ago, that bodes well.
The cheapest I can find (same one on autotrader): http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
Handling wise I have no complaints, and it is quick - very quick! It's also quiet and comfortable on the boring bits. The seats are good - better than the standard model IMO, and very supportive which helps when you throw it around a bit.
It also gets a fair bit of attention on the road, but so far all of it has been positive.
I was looking on the Jaguar approved used site - the last time was a few months ago and it seemed that prices were a bit lower, but there are so few cars available that it's hard to do an exact comparison. I'm hoping that the limited numbers bode well for future values, but only time will tell.
If you check my profile, right at the bottom there's a link to my blog of my road trip in it to Italy last year with some more photos.
threadlock said:
Mastiff said:
IMHO the next E-Type!
Values of these going the right way - maybe a little early for XKR-S but they will follow.
Good, S/C XK from 2009 onwards a good buy at the moment.
Could you clarify? Do you mean the XKR values are going the right way and the XKR-S will follow, or are you talking about the XKR-S values going the right way?Values of these going the right way - maybe a little early for XKR-S but they will follow.
Good, S/C XK from 2009 onwards a good buy at the moment.
As an owner of a 5.0 XKR I'd be interested to hear why you think they're a good buy at the moment. Might help me to justify keeping mine a bit longer
XK values holding well and going the right way - as an example I have just given a customer virtually all of his money back for an XK that he bought from us over a year ago. Agreed there are a number of variables, he hasn't done many miles, bought the car well in the first place, lovely spec etc, etc but the fact that we returned virtually the RETAIL price a year down the line still made the chap quite happy!
XKR-S is a tad different. Not too many people saw the extra £7K cost as worth the money in the first place and today, the values of these are a little below CAP. However, there are fewer of these around of course and I believe that they will catch up due to their rarity. Although this could take a while.
All IMHO of course - I'm not for one minute suggesting that we should all go and buy every XK that we see but years in the business (Jaguar and Land Rover in particular) means that if I saw a nice enough car (XK) in my budget - I'd be pretty confident in the purchase.
ehasler said:
I think it's a good compromise, and a good replacement for the Tuscan. It has the looks and sound (I prefer the Jag actually - maybe something to do with getting older though!), and it is pretty practical too. It also has a decent sized boot if you go with the coupe, and you've also got the two rear seats to use for luggage too.
Handling wise I have no complaints, and it is quick - very quick! It's also quiet and comfortable on the boring bits. The seats are good - better than the standard model IMO, and very supportive which helps when you throw it around a bit.
It also gets a fair bit of attention on the road, but so far all of it has been positive.
I was looking on the Jaguar approved used site - the last time was a few months ago and it seemed that prices were a bit lower, but there are so few cars available that it's hard to do an exact comparison. I'm hoping that the limited numbers bode well for future values, but only time will tell.
If you check my profile, right at the bottom there's a link to my blog of my road trip in it to Italy last year with some more photos.
Really whetting my appetite now Handling wise I have no complaints, and it is quick - very quick! It's also quiet and comfortable on the boring bits. The seats are good - better than the standard model IMO, and very supportive which helps when you throw it around a bit.
It also gets a fair bit of attention on the road, but so far all of it has been positive.
I was looking on the Jaguar approved used site - the last time was a few months ago and it seemed that prices were a bit lower, but there are so few cars available that it's hard to do an exact comparison. I'm hoping that the limited numbers bode well for future values, but only time will tell.
If you check my profile, right at the bottom there's a link to my blog of my road trip in it to Italy last year with some more photos.
Looks/sounds like a terrific trip with some great photos of the car and the scenery. Why anyone buys them in any other colour I have no idea!Mastiff: Thanks. Interesting insight. I suppose if/when Jag bring out an XK replacement that will muddy the waters...
Edited by macky17 on Thursday 26th May 13:08
Olivera said:
Worth noting that the XKRS has (as noted in all reviews) a serious traction problem. It's quite telling they scrapped all the XK suspension and fitted F-type components to the XK RS GT.
That, and marketing - without the F-type suspension (and I think steering) components the GT would have been "just" an XKR-S with some additional aero parts, a half rollcage and carbon ceramic brakes. Still not sure it justifies the asking price (no more power and not much, if any, weight loss) but they all sold so someone must want them.Mastiff said:
XK values holding well and going the right way - as an example I have just given a customer virtually all of his money back for an XK that he bought from us over a year ago. Agreed there are a number of variables, he hasn't done many miles, bought the car well in the first place, lovely spec etc, etc but the fact that we returned virtually the RETAIL price a year down the line still made the chap quite happy!
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All IMHO of course - I'm not for one minute suggesting that we should all go and buy every XK that we see but years in the business (Jaguar and Land Rover in particular) means that if I saw a nice enough car (XK) in my budget - I'd be pretty confident in the purchase.
Interesting - thank you for the insight....
All IMHO of course - I'm not for one minute suggesting that we should all go and buy every XK that we see but years in the business (Jaguar and Land Rover in particular) means that if I saw a nice enough car (XK) in my budget - I'd be pretty confident in the purchase.
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