will any other GT car get a look in this season?

will any other GT car get a look in this season?

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viperman

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956 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th May 2002
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this season IS a saleen season, it won today, i dont think now theyres two of them that any other car will win a single round this year, its such a shame, the saleen is a great car, but in a way too good, its makin the racing a bit dull cause the saleen will winn all the time

pete_brunton

5 posts

277 months

Sunday 12th May 2002
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The Saleen is definately doing this business this year and it doesn't look like any of the major manufacturers are intending to field anything to beat it next season. Given that the GT field is so small this year anyway there may well be a reorganisation of the championship for next year. In the same way as the GT 1 class bit the dust a few years ago, I would imagine that next year GT will disappear, leaving GTO and a new class much closer to production cars (and much cheaper for teams to run). Otherwise with such a small field its hard to see the British championship going on for much longer.

loony

6 posts

284 months

Saturday 18th May 2002
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Hi guys!

Just to add some food for thought... This year they have victory ballast. Great in theory, but when a team is abke to run clear aways from everyone else, perhaps it is time to look at the restrictor sizes.

When you see 2 cars exit the corner together, and both having taken the corner well, these cars are traction limited, so really, you cannot accelerate much faster. However, down the straight, and into 4th gear and above, and a car pulls strongly away... that is POWER.

I know restrictor sizes are base on math formulaes and all, but engines are not exactly a perfectly exact science. Restrictors were introduced to level the field, why are we not seeing them come of use? It will be a great loss to see the end of the GT cars. Without taking anything away, when the FIA GTs were at Silverstone, their field was strong, but the cars? We watch GT racing to see the diversity and insane cars battle.

Thanks for listening to my nonsense!

PH

viperman

Original Poster:

956 posts

266 months

Saturday 18th May 2002
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yeah, we wont let the british GT series just fizzle away, theyre would be uproar if they axed the Gt series, i would cry!!!! i love the GT's !!!!

pete_brunton

5 posts

277 months

Tuesday 21st May 2002
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I agree the GT series is brilliant entertainment, but quite a few people are making comments like "great GTO battle but the GT was boring". With an ever shrinking field of GT class entries it might be time to rethink things or face the terrible prospect of seeing the whole thing disappear.

Beast

368 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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....a shame if you've shelled out £350k on a Saleen, but the GT grid is looking a bit like Jurassic Park.

The other contributing factor is global elligibility (for both ACO (Le Mans/ALMS) and FIA). Morgan did everything right on that front, but have unfortunately IMHO produced a car that at this stage, just can't handle well enough to hang on to the front of the class (and of course it's been thrashed senseless with the ugly stick)

Which basically means that that this point in time, unless you have a 911 or 360, you can't pitch a car into any old series.

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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we're not sure how fast that Moggie is yet - it has never run at full RPM in the British championship and remember it is a BRAND NEW car. Once fully on song it does close to 11,000 rpm (can't wait to hear it).

But back to GT - if the Speed 12 hadn't suffered a spin at Silverstone this year, I think it would have won, but then the Saleen had started from the back after a fuel leak. Someone made a remark about dinosaurs and if you think how old the Marcos are and teh Lister and the Speed 12 compared to the Saleen, perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised. What we need is some new blood - perhaps the Farboud would be a good challenger? Anyone else think of something they'd like to see in GT - Ferrari 550/575, some Vipers back again?

Beast

368 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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Personal I know, but I really don't like the V8 noise in that Morgan (then again I think the Saleen always sounds so rough that its on the verge of going bang)

.....but the V12 in the 550's at Silverstone were just fabulous - especially on the limiter coming into the pits

viperman

Original Poster:

956 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2002
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them 550's that were at FIA GT silverstone were deffening, to me i prefer loud rumbilng V10's in the vipers! the porsches sound great aswell on the down change,

PiB

1,199 posts

271 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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What happened to the Stealth B6? Wasn't it in this series last year? Ted we need a test drive too. If Farboud would place an entry that would be good too.

>> Edited by PiB on Tuesday 28th May 20:25

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

304 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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What happened to the Stealth B6? Wasn't it in this series last year? Ted we need a test drive too.


We did have a road test tentatively lined up but they've just sold the car!

Thumper

171 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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I agree that the series is in dire straits at the moment, with 12 cars (was it?) at Croft, but they're promising twenty or so this weekend at Silverstone. I also believe that GNM may be looking to run a third Saleen later this year, although (like their second) it may not compete in every British round. Now, the thought of three Saleens makes GT sound much more interesting, especially if Graham Nash can find two more drivers to match the quality of those he's already signed.

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

304 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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There may not have been many cars at Croft, but the battle in GTOs was one of the best yet and was very entertaining. It might even have benefited from the lack of back markers getting in the way.

Thumper

171 posts

265 months

Sunday 2nd June 2002
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I spoke to the team yesterday, and the third car is already in action! With RML having already taken away the car they're borrowing for Le Mans, Tommy and Ian are in the ex-Daytona/Sebring car (originally run in unpainted carbon fibre) and Nathan and Tom will drive the third car. This is the same S7-R that ran so well in last year's Spanish GT championship.