Tuscan Challenge Road Car (at the moment) build project
Discussion
marsdalebear said:
Normal service will resume shortly as Steve has returned after house sitting for us in Barbados. Coming back with a tan and an appreciation of Banks beer and Old Brigand rum!
John,That was a brilliant experience, thanks for showing us the island ...just awesome place...give me a shout when you start work on the boat I am mostly available these days...sure Ginny wouldn't mind
..thanks for the use of the "Animal" didn't put any dents in her and even washed the sand off, gonna frame my Barbados driving licence!Obviously back in Sunny Nunny ...in contrast cold and rainy here today...
Back on topic Michael and Terry will be popping down to assist with the wiring Michael threw most of the metro wiring loom away ...we will be pressing the Stainless dash panels out once the press is fixed ...they will be working on Tim Hoods Sagaris most weekends though....Karl and me will be finishing off the headlights and working out the best way to mount the Lucas AFM ... Petrol tank will be taken back to Radtec for final assembly ...so still moving forward ...although my Grantura MK2a is heading forward too we are making a new Chassis for it...got original diff and steering rack too...
Anyway nice to see that you are keeping on eye on your old neighbour
love to Jetty, Brown and MollySteve
G1ABB said:
Update, update, update....
Hi Graham,The work on this car stopped for around 18 months whilst we totally restored my dads old house, I was born in the front room ..some heart strings attached there....this is now pretty much sorted now and is where it needs to be....so now looking and getting the Challenge car finished...plus numerous TVR projects...
I have started on fitting the headlights and indicators, adapting the wiring loom to suit, we had the stainless desh panels that we designed pressed out in stainless they look great,
I dropped the challenge car dash off with the full hide and thread about 10 days ago with the trimmer...I have started on the dash gauge wiring and cut the dash around to accommodate the brake bias and 'kill' switch and start button...
Rear lights and harness in, fog and reverse light purchased (gonna wee some folk off with choice there I guess, but have broad shoulders😜), these LED lights are not inexpensive...
We have fitted winged sump and I have done the wiring for oil pressure and reverse switch too...so yes moving on👍
Been far too long...but intend to get oil in now and focus on start up....need to sort the petrol tank which has been sat with a decent chap for far too long ...so this is getting sorted..
Heard that you had yours project down at Burghley...we were away but George, Ginny and me would love to see what you have created😀
Have sent you text messages but had no response hope you guys are all ok....
Steve.G.
Bump!
Apologies for lack of activity on this thread, I renovated and rewired the house I was born in over an 18 month period, this took priority over playing with cars, but have took the covers off the C.C. Project have been working on her, fuel lines in, oil in, half way through electrics dash trimmed gauges in interior much more complete, lights in and wired , aero catches fitted ... Plus more still a way to go but heading forwards!
Off to radtec this A.M. to get a bit of Ali work done on the expansion tank ....
Pity photo bucket changed its rules ....
Steve. G
Apologies for lack of activity on this thread, I renovated and rewired the house I was born in over an 18 month period, this took priority over playing with cars, but have took the covers off the C.C. Project have been working on her, fuel lines in, oil in, half way through electrics dash trimmed gauges in interior much more complete, lights in and wired , aero catches fitted ... Plus more still a way to go but heading forwards!
Off to radtec this A.M. to get a bit of Ali work done on the expansion tank ....
Pity photo bucket changed its rules ....
Steve. G
77racing said:
Steve I use "Flicker" now after photobucket for many years. works a treat
Thanks Perry,Will look into that, threads are less than good without images,
We will be working on the car next Friday - Sunday at the NEC,
Restoration show if folk are over that way ....see where it's at ...
I cut the fuse holders into the inner wing this pm will be working on it now at every opportunity tbh....
Steve
Hi,
Still working on this, "Tuscan" and "Challenge 500" badges in red plus the small "TVR" badge that sits on the rear diffuser sorted, secure storage in area between cage boot area sorted, using a lockable aero catch, carbon wrapped to tie in with the rear diffuser and isolation stuff, front oil cooler radiator housing and steering column cowl, front lower driving lights wiring in, near side carbon insert for extinguisher and battery cut offprepped and ready for fit tomorrow, repeaters ordered and will be fitted on arrival, wiring sorted , rain light ordered, flasher unit for that too, along with wiring .... Shoulder Storage areas sorted along with lighting in conjunction with side lights, majority of lighting led save front headlights and side lights, relays to suit, dash lights LEDs blue lighting as are the storage areas, all in various stages of completion, petrol tank at radtec for final teak, centre console and steering wheel awaiting collection from trimmers...front lights arrive tomorrow as does lighting ....so moving on...still lots to do...
Bulkhead stainless mounting plates in plus bulkhead back splash, two separate fuse 8 point fuse boards fitted neatly in inner wing affording ample outputs for electrical stuff, multiple earthing points fitted throughout car three to the engine Bay Area ....back end has three all tested, fuel lines all cladded in friction points ....plus other stuff I can't remember now been a long day, but will back on the car in the morning.....
Steve.
Still working on this, "Tuscan" and "Challenge 500" badges in red plus the small "TVR" badge that sits on the rear diffuser sorted, secure storage in area between cage boot area sorted, using a lockable aero catch, carbon wrapped to tie in with the rear diffuser and isolation stuff, front oil cooler radiator housing and steering column cowl, front lower driving lights wiring in, near side carbon insert for extinguisher and battery cut offprepped and ready for fit tomorrow, repeaters ordered and will be fitted on arrival, wiring sorted , rain light ordered, flasher unit for that too, along with wiring .... Shoulder Storage areas sorted along with lighting in conjunction with side lights, majority of lighting led save front headlights and side lights, relays to suit, dash lights LEDs blue lighting as are the storage areas, all in various stages of completion, petrol tank at radtec for final teak, centre console and steering wheel awaiting collection from trimmers...front lights arrive tomorrow as does lighting ....so moving on...still lots to do...
Bulkhead stainless mounting plates in plus bulkhead back splash, two separate fuse 8 point fuse boards fitted neatly in inner wing affording ample outputs for electrical stuff, multiple earthing points fitted throughout car three to the engine Bay Area ....back end has three all tested, fuel lines all cladded in friction points ....plus other stuff I can't remember now been a long day, but will back on the car in the morning.....
Steve.
Edited by schimg on Monday 2nd April 21:49
Hi,
Want to fit the dash but can't until I have sourced a two speed wiper motor with " park" function,the one I have now works, is an early Challenge car one but is single speed.
Should have sorted this before the car was painted .....
Spoke with Ivor W and Darren S a few weeks back ....thanks for your help chaps👍
Thought that a single arm wiper off a wedge would do the trick so asked Andy Tank if he had one he think he has but can't find it......so does anyone have one?
Or suggestions for a single arm set- up?
Thanks in advance
Want to fit the dash but can't until I have sourced a two speed wiper motor with " park" function,the one I have now works, is an early Challenge car one but is single speed.
Should have sorted this before the car was painted .....
Spoke with Ivor W and Darren S a few weeks back ....thanks for your help chaps👍
Thought that a single arm wiper off a wedge would do the trick so asked Andy Tank if he had one he think he has but can't find it......so does anyone have one?
Or suggestions for a single arm set- up?
Thanks in advance
Hello Steve,
Did you get your windscreen wiper problem solved? When I got my car, it still had the original wiper setup the car raced with and Colin Blower had moved the off-side wiper box over a few inches to towards the middle. I couldn't understand why, so returned it to the position where the indent is in the windscreen scuttle. When I operated the wipers for the first time, the off-side wiper swept right off the windscreen as the angle of sweep was too large. In the end, Adrian Venn rebuilt my motor and changed the internals to give me the 100 or 110 degree (I can't remember) sweep required, as well as fitting the parking switch. I got my calculations slightly wrong, as the wiper still just fell off the end of the screen. In the end, I fitted a Triumph Stag pantograph wiper to the drivers side to correct the problem, but I'm still not happy with the result.
Moral or the story, consider carefully where you mount the off-side box and work out what angle of sweep you need. As for the motor, Adrian Venn can probably help, but I have vague recollections it was the same one used on the old FX4 taxis (but I'm always happy to be corrected). It's similar to the one used on an original Mini, but is a more powerful version and I wouldn't advise using a Mini unit.
Hope this helps..... Rich
Did you get your windscreen wiper problem solved? When I got my car, it still had the original wiper setup the car raced with and Colin Blower had moved the off-side wiper box over a few inches to towards the middle. I couldn't understand why, so returned it to the position where the indent is in the windscreen scuttle. When I operated the wipers for the first time, the off-side wiper swept right off the windscreen as the angle of sweep was too large. In the end, Adrian Venn rebuilt my motor and changed the internals to give me the 100 or 110 degree (I can't remember) sweep required, as well as fitting the parking switch. I got my calculations slightly wrong, as the wiper still just fell off the end of the screen. In the end, I fitted a Triumph Stag pantograph wiper to the drivers side to correct the problem, but I'm still not happy with the result.
Moral or the story, consider carefully where you mount the off-side box and work out what angle of sweep you need. As for the motor, Adrian Venn can probably help, but I have vague recollections it was the same one used on the old FX4 taxis (but I'm always happy to be corrected). It's similar to the one used on an original Mini, but is a more powerful version and I wouldn't advise using a Mini unit.
Hope this helps..... Rich
TiffsTuzzy said:
Hello Steve,
Did you get your windscreen wiper problem solved? When I got my car, it still had the original wiper setup the car raced with and Colin Blower had moved the off-side wiper box over a few inches to towards the middle. I couldn't understand why, so returned it to the position where the indent is in the windscreen scuttle. When I operated the wipers for the first time, the off-side wiper swept right off the windscreen as the angle of sweep was too large. In the end, Adrian Venn rebuilt my motor and changed the internals to give me the 100 or 110 degree (I can't remember) sweep required, as well as fitting the parking switch. I got my calculations slightly wrong, as the wiper still just fell off the end of the screen. In the end, I fitted a Triumph Stag pantograph wiper to the drivers side to correct the problem, but I'm still not happy with the result.
Moral or the story, consider carefully where you mount the off-side box and work out what angle of sweep you need. As for the motor, Adrian Venn can probably help, but I have vague recollections it was the same one used on the old FX4 taxis (but I'm always happy to be corrected). It's similar to the one used on an original Mini, but is a more powerful version and I wouldn't advise using a Mini unit.
Hope this helps..... Rich
Hi Rich,Did you get your windscreen wiper problem solved? When I got my car, it still had the original wiper setup the car raced with and Colin Blower had moved the off-side wiper box over a few inches to towards the middle. I couldn't understand why, so returned it to the position where the indent is in the windscreen scuttle. When I operated the wipers for the first time, the off-side wiper swept right off the windscreen as the angle of sweep was too large. In the end, Adrian Venn rebuilt my motor and changed the internals to give me the 100 or 110 degree (I can't remember) sweep required, as well as fitting the parking switch. I got my calculations slightly wrong, as the wiper still just fell off the end of the screen. In the end, I fitted a Triumph Stag pantograph wiper to the drivers side to correct the problem, but I'm still not happy with the result.
Moral or the story, consider carefully where you mount the off-side box and work out what angle of sweep you need. As for the motor, Adrian Venn can probably help, but I have vague recollections it was the same one used on the old FX4 taxis (but I'm always happy to be corrected). It's similar to the one used on an original Mini, but is a more powerful version and I wouldn't advise using a Mini unit.
Hope this helps..... Rich
Firstly thanks for replying!
Adrian and me got the original single motor working, but one speed no park is not good,
Thought a single wedge style one would do the trick,
Andy Tank has found one and is posting it to me today,
Think what you say is invaluable and will fettle it to fit ( hopefully) this one is two speed and parks single arm, I am out on the High Peaks run in the Cerbera today if it rains I rarely use wipers, rainex does the trick over 30 mph for me....so this exercise is mostly for the MOT!
All the gauges and 99% of them are wired and work, battery cables and relays for ignition and start up work, getting ever closer....even started to look for seats!
Steve.G.
Hi,
Wiper motor now sorted, the one Andy T sent me worked but it parked on the wrong side of the screen, spoke with Adrian he talked me through how you can take it apart and reverse direction, did this mounted it using a combination of methods!
But works brilliantly, two speed parks correctly, I used an arm and blade off a Cerbera with the washer tube on it all works well blade is exactly the correct height too, that's been done for a couple of weeks, still got about 8 wires to sort out what they do on the ecu.....real pita this,
But will get there....
Looking at brakes too....mine runs the later solid rear disc....caliper had offset piston to compensate thinner disc,,,,these calipers have same number as the ones on my Cerbera, bought new pads, but they don't fit as they are too small for goodness sake!
Question which pads fit the rears brakes on a solid rota set up?
Please;)
Wiper motor now sorted, the one Andy T sent me worked but it parked on the wrong side of the screen, spoke with Adrian he talked me through how you can take it apart and reverse direction, did this mounted it using a combination of methods!
But works brilliantly, two speed parks correctly, I used an arm and blade off a Cerbera with the washer tube on it all works well blade is exactly the correct height too, that's been done for a couple of weeks, still got about 8 wires to sort out what they do on the ecu.....real pita this,
But will get there....
Looking at brakes too....mine runs the later solid rear disc....caliper had offset piston to compensate thinner disc,,,,these calipers have same number as the ones on my Cerbera, bought new pads, but they don't fit as they are too small for goodness sake!
Question which pads fit the rears brakes on a solid rota set up?
Please;)
I have same 2 pot rears.
Caliper CP5111 (also AP Racing CP6120 and CP6121 2 Piston Calipers) rear pad CP5119D50
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/racing-c...
Caliper CP5111 (also AP Racing CP6120 and CP6121 2 Piston Calipers) rear pad CP5119D50
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/racing-c...
Neil_S said:
I have same 2 pot rears.
Caliper CP5111 (also AP Racing CP6120 and CP6121 2 Piston Calipers) rear pad CP5119D50
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/racing-c...
Hi Neil,Caliper CP5111 (also AP Racing CP6120 and CP6121 2 Piston Calipers) rear pad CP5119D50
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/racing-c...
Thanks for this appreciated.
Steve
PixelpeepS3 said:
bookmarked - epic thread.. 
just enjoyed a binge viewing
Thank you, just enjoyed a binge viewing It's been a long journey, but nearei the end than the beginning!
This whole project hasn't been like trying to rebuild a car restoration wise, it's about creating something never existed, doing it out of your own garage and trying to anticipate what's needed without a plan, and not handing it over to someone to do it for us (George my son and me)
The dash has been sat on the kitchen table for a couple of months, it's trimmed in Marting black leather with red stitching in line with the rest of the car)
I have fitted gauges all wired up and can just plug into the car loom..water
Roof connections,,
..BUT needed to sort wiper motor and wash wipe this motor came from Andy Tank a wedge single arm, it works really well in fact better than the ones on my Cerbera and Chimaeras!
Plus the loom and ECU wiring ( which is nearly there) I have main relay working along with fuel relay working but am getting no power down at the fuel pump end, have checked the wiring that I put in its fine, but no feed out of the relay?
Have changed relays, spent a couple of hours sat pm scratching my head then left it, spoke with Jason at power when I was over there earlier, perhaps the ECU doesn't have a chip in there, so that's the next thing....
So sort this, pick the petrol tank from Radtec, fuel lines are in, need to mount fuel pump and filter, we will mount this on a plate behind the cone diff, I have two wires that have been cut from the loom behind the plenum and bulkhead, need establish what they do, put the plenum and water pipes back on work out where to mount the AFM ( got not inner wings so need to sort these) probably mount AFM on there, using a Chimaera K&N air filter mounted in the passenger side oil cooler area (only going to run one oil cooler as it is a road car, that's in on the drivers side.
But whilst I am head scratching over the stuff I don't understand I can do things like get the horns sourced and working, gone for Fiamm high and low tones nothing to chavvy...
Number plates on.....stuff like that I want to get this finished now been toooo long, want to get this car mot'd and down to asda for the monthly shop
That said it will have to Waitrose as limited storage in the back....and can't afford their prices!
Steve.G.
Edited by schimg on Monday 25th June 22:09
Hi,
Still progressing this car,
V.frustrated over 14cux ecu wiring, trying to get power to fuel pump,
Spent at least 20 odd hours trying to the relays putting power out to the pump,
Bothe relays 1. Ecu relay fine, 2. Fuel pump relay getting power nothing out to fuel pump though?
Lost too much time on this so gone back to cosmetics and braking ....
Lights sorted, just cut the lens covers (after borrowing Rob Pacs spares off his road legal project) probably going for no black boarder on the lens covers and bonding rivnuts 6mm cap head fixings,had to cut away a fair part of the chrome surround and headlight rim away underneath to lower them below the Perspex covers, one slip and the paint job is screwed so not pleasant on your own with this part...
Also put door hinges in and door handles, keeper and mechanism and door locks dropped off with Adrian Venn yesterday....
Just need to work out door innards .....got a couple of ideas...
Petrol tank going back to Radtec as my chimaera VDO sender doesn't match the smiths flange fitted.....
Seats now decided upon Cobra Manaco Sports, black vinyl (repels water) red stitching with challellenge logo on headrests (instead of cobra),
Just need to sell some stuff to fund them!
Do need to sort image upload......
Steve.G.
Thanks for the interest!
Still progressing this car,
V.frustrated over 14cux ecu wiring, trying to get power to fuel pump,
Spent at least 20 odd hours trying to the relays putting power out to the pump,
Bothe relays 1. Ecu relay fine, 2. Fuel pump relay getting power nothing out to fuel pump though?
Lost too much time on this so gone back to cosmetics and braking ....
Lights sorted, just cut the lens covers (after borrowing Rob Pacs spares off his road legal project) probably going for no black boarder on the lens covers and bonding rivnuts 6mm cap head fixings,had to cut away a fair part of the chrome surround and headlight rim away underneath to lower them below the Perspex covers, one slip and the paint job is screwed so not pleasant on your own with this part...
Also put door hinges in and door handles, keeper and mechanism and door locks dropped off with Adrian Venn yesterday....
Just need to work out door innards .....got a couple of ideas...
Petrol tank going back to Radtec as my chimaera VDO sender doesn't match the smiths flange fitted.....
Seats now decided upon Cobra Manaco Sports, black vinyl (repels water) red stitching with challellenge logo on headrests (instead of cobra),
Just need to sell some stuff to fund them!
Do need to sort image upload......
Steve.G.
Thanks for the interest!
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