V6 Class C Cars

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anonymous-user

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53 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Not being controversial, just asking a very straight forward question.

Looking at the times from Mallory for the 4.0 litre V8 class C cars, it's seems like the old lap record was bettered by more than 2.5 seconds, a life time at a circuit as short as Mallory.

Does this make Class C V6s a waste of time for anyone that wants to compete in the class?

77racing

3,346 posts

186 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Judging from what you are saying John , I think you have answered your own question. Unless you want to compete just because you can in a V6 a V8 has a lot more advantage and them's are the rules now.

anonymous-user

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53 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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If I was racing I'd want to compete, and it would be in a V6 engined car (cod that's what I have) so as you say, question seems to answered. Thank you. smile

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 27th September 17:15

sarbec

514 posts

187 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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A tasmin out at oulton park in October john ??

anonymous-user

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53 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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sarbec said:
A tasmin out at oulton park in October john ??
Why ?

NTEL

5,051 posts

239 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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John, unless you have a st load more power, torque and much better handling you don't have much of a hope against the Chims. Plus, they were supposed to be a road car with a rollage. They are not. They are all race cars which I believe haven't been built in the spirit of the regs.

anonymous-user

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53 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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NTEL said:
John, unless you have a st load more power, torque and much better handling you don't have much of a hope against the Chims. Plus, they were supposed to be a road car with a rollage. They are not. They are all race cars which I believe haven't been built in the spirit of the regs.
Be interesting to see, conditions being equal, what they lap oulton in Dave.

NTEL

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239 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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TVRMs said:
Be interesting to see, conditions being equal, what they lap oulton in Dave.
I would imaging similar times to Mickey Holden. 1.57s or 1.58s or even quicker


YRRunner

1,652 posts

215 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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NTEL said:
Plus, they were supposed to be a road car with a rollage. They are not. They are all race cars which I believe haven't been built in the spirit of the regs.
Controversial, to say the least.

sarbec

514 posts

187 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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TVRMs said:
sarbec said:
A tasmin out at oulton park in October john ??
Why ?
Why not john some are out to have a good time not out to get the win just to enjoy

HUI

1,025 posts

247 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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sarbec said:
TVRMs said:
sarbec said:
A tasmin out at oulton park in October john ??
Why ?
Why not john some are out to have a good time not out to get the win just to enjoy
Ivor

I don't think John has a Tasmin!!

Maureen/Mrs Hui

anonymous-user

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53 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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HUI said:
sarbec said:
TVRMs said:
sarbec said:
A tasmin out at oulton park in October john ??
Why ?
Why not john some are out to have a good time not out to get the win just to enjoy
Ivor

I don't think John has a Tasmin!!

Maureen/Mrs Hui
Correct Maureen, I have a 40 odd year old 3000M wink

Ivor, I go racing (if memory serves cos it's been an age) it's to get a buzz. To get a chance at class win has to be the aim - if you're competing rather than just taking part. Overall win in either series I have run probably not possible...with me at the wheel (although we have had a 5th overall in future classics).

If I enjoy some decent wheel to wheel racing, that will do very nicely thanks smile

A Tasmin won't do that for me with the current crop of class C cars in DTEC, nor would my old M.

I expect these current V8s, in decent conditions, will be lapping Oulton in the 1.55s which is 5 seconds off what I could do in my car before it was rebuilt, and it was a lap record for the class for some time, but even with the car's weight loss and some extra grunt, I doubt I would be able to compete or run wheel to wheel.

My point really was that the road car based V8s were brought in to give a boost to grids, and I wondered if the regs are such that they have replaced rather than supplemented the V6 cars so neutral impact on grid size.

As a foot note, if I had no car and was looking to go racing, I would be building a Chim and be looking forward to playing in a busy class - no doubt at all, but I have a car that I will run in CSCC - which is where I was pre-rebuild and where I can have great fun with what I have.

So back to the first response on the topic, I think I have my answer. smile


Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 28th September 10:21

77racing

3,346 posts

186 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Morning Maureen

I think Ivor ment a V6 not a body style. As I posted plenty of people just want to compete not necessary after a win.

NTEL

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239 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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YRRunner said:
NTEL said:
Plus, they were supposed to be a road car with a rollage. They are not. They are all race cars which I believe haven't been built in the spirit of the regs.
Controversial, to say the least.
Not really Crackerjack, as long as all the cars are built to the same spec, not necessarily the regs, and they are all equal, which they clearly are, then it makes no odds. The V6s don't really have much of a chance against them so I doubt you will see one of those competing in this series again.

anonymous-user

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53 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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NTEL said:
YRRunner said:
NTEL said:
Plus, they were supposed to be a road car with a rollage. They are not. They are all race cars which I believe haven't been built in the spirit of the regs.
Controversial, to say the least.
Not really Crackerjack, as long as all the cars are built to the same spec, not necessarily the regs, and they are all equal, which they clearly are, then it makes no odds. The V6s don't really have much of a chance against them so I doubt you will see one of those competing in this series again.
And that was my thought train Dave. Was that he intention - probably only JR knows the answer..

Graham

16,368 posts

283 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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we should find out soon enough There are 2 v6 cars that will be back out soon, at least one with a handy driver who knows that the 4ltr chims re like to drive..

I'll admit to being a bit disappointed with the fairly brief and open regs for the 4ltr cars, as it will certainly make it hard for a a v6 car to compete. lack of a minimum weight is a big omission in my view.

the only plus side is that it does mean that the 4ltr cars have a chance of being competitive outside the TVR series as well.

But, it does look like the 4ltr class is going to be popular, and if it succeeds in that and gives some very close racing which it seems to be doing then thats a win.


sarbec

514 posts

187 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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77racing said:
Morning Maureen

I think Ivor ment a V6 not a body style. As I posted plenty of people just want to compete not necessary after a win.
Exactly that Perry
And it will be piloted by a very capable driver will be interesting what times he posts

anonymous-user

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53 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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sarbec said:
77racing said:
Morning Maureen

I think Ivor ment a V6 not a body style. As I posted plenty of people just want to compete not necessary after a win.
Exactly that Perry
And it will be piloted by a very capable driver will be interesting what times he posts
If he's capable he'll be faster than I ever was Ivor smile

My best was 2.00.717 in 2009 on a coldish cloudy day.

Geoff38

789 posts

245 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Easy , make a class D for tasmins , that way I might get some points when I start next season smile ( and am the only one in it )

Geoff38

789 posts

245 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Easy , make a class D for tasmins , that way I might get some points when I start next season smile ( and am the only one in it )