F1 Turbos could be V6s....

F1 Turbos could be V6s....

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thunderbelmont

Original Poster:

2,982 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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According to a hot of the press report in Autosnort, it's been proposed that the droning 4-pot turbo issue is turning into a banshee wailing V6.

Cue: All manufacturers now nodding heads.

Let's hope the F1 Commission follows suit.

No chance of having proper engines in F1 anymore sadly. The days of the V8/12/16 are gone.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Bloody good news I think. Turbo V6 could mean more power and I bet that Jaguar supercar in partnership with Williams will now be powered by a turbo V6 as well.

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

204 months

350Matt

3,738 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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sanity has prevailed

we hope


wait and see what Renault say

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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MSTRBKR said:
Bloody good news I think. Turbo V6 could mean more power and I bet that Jaguar supercar in partnership with Williams will now be powered by a turbo V6 as well.
You mean this one?


furtive

4,498 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Confirmed:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/138783...

6 cylinders rather than 4 and not until 2014 now

skinny

5,269 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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not sure who controls what's going to happen - WSMC or FIA. or exactly how bernie fits into it but he still seems to have a pretty loud voice...

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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350Matt said:
sanity has prevailed

we hope


wait and see what Renault say
The Regie know what they are doing with small capacity turbo V6s. smile

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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I wonder if McLaren's baby sports car will have a 1.6 turbo V6. scratchchin

JonRB

74,598 posts

273 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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furtive said:
Confirmed:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/138783...

6 cylinders rather than 4 and not until 2014 now
The BBC claims that the 6-cylinder concession is a "sop to Ferrari". WTF? How about it being a concession to a majority of fans??

Bloody leftist lentil-munchers. rolleyes

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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JonRB said:
The BBC claims that the 6-cylinder concession is a "sop to Ferrari". WTF? How about it being a concession to a majority of fans??

Bloody leftist lentil-munchers. rolleyes
The BBC is REALLY going down the toilet on the quality of the journalism. It's factual but they lace it with bullst.

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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It's a shame they couldn't just limit it to "a 1600cc turbo engine."

Aizle

12,429 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
I wonder if McLaren's baby sports car will have a 1.6 turbo V6. scratchchin
A new MX-5, built in Britain.......I like the sound of that.

andyps

7,817 posts

283 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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In fairness to the BBC, Ferrari were probably one of the main opponents to the 4 cylinder engine as it does not relate to their road car programme at all.

What I can't understand, however, is why there has to be a prescribed number of cylinders. If it has to be 1.6 turbo fair enough (although an equivalence offering both turbo and n/a would seem good to me) but why can't the manufacturers decide for themselves how they do it. If it made commercial sense for someone to do a 1.6 in-line triple whilst someone else favoured a W12 does it matter? There is bound to be an optimum number of cylinders (it used to be said it was about 330cc per cylinder but I don't know if that still applies) but if a manufacturer chose something else why is it a problem? It never used to be, and that includes when F1 used 1.5 turbo engines.

dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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andyps said:
In fairness to the BBC, Ferrari were probably one of the main opponents to the 4 cylinder engine as it does not relate to their road car programme at all.

What I can't understand, however, is why there has to be a prescribed number of cylinders. If it has to be 1.6 turbo fair enough (although an equivalence offering both turbo and n/a would seem good to me) but why can't the manufacturers decide for themselves how they do it. If it made commercial sense for someone to do a 1.6 in-line triple whilst someone else favoured a W12 does it matter? There is bound to be an optimum number of cylinders (it used to be said it was about 330cc per cylinder but I don't know if that still applies) but if a manufacturer chose something else why is it a problem? It never used to be, and that includes when F1 used 1.5 turbo engines.
Equivalence formulae never seem to work...

E30M3SE

8,467 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
It's a shame they couldn't just limit it to "a 1600cc turbo engine."
+1.

Enter the Boxer and horizontally opposed units.

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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E30M3SE said:
+1.

Enter the Boxer and horizontally opposed units.
One and the same, non?

dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
E30M3SE said:
+1.

Enter the Boxer and horizontally opposed units.
One and the same, non?
180 degree V6? or will the angle be fixed?

mattikake

5,057 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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"That is a sop to Ferrari, who objected to the restriction to four cylinders.

The sport's longest-serving and most powerful team had objected because the restriction had no relevance to any of their road cars."

Eh? So Ferrari have 1.6 V6 turbo roadcar engines? (or am I interpreting this engine spec wrong?)


Aizle

12,429 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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mattikake said:
"That is a sop to Ferrari, who objected to the restriction to four cylinders.

The sport's longest-serving and most powerful team had objected because the restriction had no relevance to any of their road cars."

Eh? So Ferrari have 1.6 V6 turbo roadcar engines? (or am I interpreting this engine spec wrong?)
I can only assume that Ferrari will be downsizing/meeting emission targets in the future with smaller capacity turbo V6 engines, probably not 1.6 but not a 4.5 V8.