RE: 800bhp Celica Is Fastest Car At Goodwood

[ultegra]

This is a non story.

I saw this go up the hill on the Saturday.

The thing was he was the only driver competing. I don't think he had sussed out that the FOS isn't a 'serious' hill climb.

Everyone else was showing off the cars to the crowds and generally having a good time.

Do we honestly think that a Celica would best the F1 cars? Come on....

[GravelBen]

How does that time compare to Rod Millen's Pikes Peak Celica back when he ran that up the hill?

[CTC P]

I race with Jonny in the Sprint Series and this is a serious bit of kit. Lets be honest it's not exactly a standard celica... With almost 800bhp per tonne its no surprise it was faster than the F1 car of old especially as the driver is a fantastic driver. If you want to see just how fast this car is come watch a TSS event :-)

[chuntington101]

Alfie Noakes said:

700BHP is very high bearing in mind the other figures. It would be nice to know if the boost figure is gauge or absolute.

I think that would be gauge presure! making 700bar with 1 bar of boost would be pretty fooking impresive from a 2.x ltr 4 pot engine!

[Pingman]

I think it looked better in white last year, it had less of an aero (halfords - lol) package then too! haha

Be good if someone that knows about car aerodynamics could talk us through what's going on with the aero on this car?

I rekon Monster Tajim might could probably run up the driveway pretty quickly in his Suzuki Pikes Peak car

[Ryvita]

Good to see a Celica in the news (ST205 driver for the last 8 years).

I agree that 700 brake out of two litres sounds pretty incredible, but on a specialist set-up like this I guess it's plausible. The intercooling must be pretty heroic though to deal with 2 bar. I run 1.1 bar with water injection and that's bad enough.

Still quietly hoping that Toyota resurrect the Celica name for this new coupe which is currently saddled with an unrecognizable string of letters and numbers. :/

Then we might get a GT-FOUR version.

[Adrian W]

Alfie Noakes][quote said:

Compression ratio 9.7:1
Max. power (DIN hp @ rpm) 700 @ 5,700 at 2bar boost
>800 with nitrous oxide boost

700BHP is very high bearing in mind the other figures. It would be nice to know if the boost figure is gauge or absolute.

Not running on pump fuel then?

[anonymous-user]

I call Bull too!

700bhp @5700rpm would require a BMEP of 54.9 bar (for a 2.0 engine) and a BSAC of approx 2.3kg/kwhr, either figure is bit like saying, "yeah mate, my 1.3l corsa can go 200 mph".......


are you sure it's not 7500rpm??? (even that would be going some, but just possible)

[S18DMW]

Dagnut said:

I reckon RCM's Gobstopper could top that...

Be close, don't think the RCM car is as light as that, but it is a bit more powerful, I believe around the 800bhp mark + 50bhp Nitrous shot that's activated via the motec ecu to come on at certain points of the circuit! (Not sure how that works)

[Denorth]

Cyder said:

snowy slopes said:

TonyHetherington said:

Cyder - that's still the fastest run, isn't it?

Yep

Unnofficially I think Kimi Raikkonen beat the record and went under 40 seconds in 2006(?)

Cyder, could you tell more about 2006 thing with Kimi?

[Dagnut]

S18DMW said:

Dagnut said:

I reckon RCM's Gobstopper could top that...

Be close, don't think the RCM car is as light as that, but it is a bit more powerful, I believe around the 800bhp mark + 50bhp Nitrous shot that's activated via the motec ecu to come on at certain points of the circuit! (Not sure how that works)

Only about 30kgs in it...but 100bhp more and the set up ..my money would be on RCM

[chevronb37]

Denorth said:

Cyder said:

snowy slopes said:

TonyHetherington said:

Cyder - that's still the fastest run, isn't it?

Yep

Unnofficially I think Kimi Raikkonen beat the record and went under 40 seconds in 2006(?)

Cyder, could you tell more about 2006 thing with Kimi?

Yeah, I don't remember that at all. Would love to have my memory jogged!

[clark223]

chevronb37 said:

Denorth said:

Cyder said:

snowy slopes said:

TonyHetherington said:

Cyder - that's still the fastest run, isn't it?

Yep

Unnofficially I think Kimi Raikkonen beat the record and went under 40 seconds in 2006(?)

Cyder, could you tell more about 2006 thing with Kimi?

Yeah, I don't remember that at all. Would love to have my memory jogged!

I think it was Heikki Kovalainen in 2006. I believe he was driving the 2005 Renault R25 F1 car, dont know the exact time, but it looked scarily fast....

[Juicetin1]

Now that modern F1 cars aren't timed the only way I can see Heidfeld's 41sec time being beaten is with something like a specialist hill climb Gould. Graeme Wight Jnr came within a couple of seconds a few years ago in his Gould V6, that had under 500bhp, the modern Gould V8s have 700bhp.
IIRC Rod Millen's quickest time was around 46secs in his Celica, but he could probably have knocked a couple of seconds off that if he hadn't had such a crap start.

[Cyder]

I think it was 2006 he was driving the 2005 Renault F1 and did a 'quick run'.
If I remember correctly the run was timed unofficially at just under 40 seconds.

I seem to remember the commentators getting all excited about it being a 'new record'!

[gsd2000]

supercharger, turbo and nitrous......sounds fun

[Denorth]

clark223 said:

I think it was Heikki Kovalainen in 2006. I believe he was driving the 2005 Renault R25 F1 car, dont know the exact time, but it looked scarily fast....

with this info googling (is there such word?) made sense. Thank you

[SteveS Cup]

Was this White last year??

[soad]

SteveS Cup said:

Was this White last year??

Yes

[Welshbeef]

gsd2000 said:

supercharger, turbo and nitrous......sounds fun

Fact is on the day when the time really counted he was 2nd fastest - by c0.5 seconds. Not much but thankfully a much more important car won (good effort from him but I'd much rather see a wonderful classic car really delivering instead of a fast & furious stylee).