RE: Ecclestone Says No To Electric Pit Lane

RE: Ecclestone Says No To Electric Pit Lane

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caine70

327 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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locogeoff said:
Also as far as I'm aware KERS is an option in F1, teams do not have to implement it.
But if the teams choose not to run it they still have to carry a 40kg weight penalty.

locogeoff

10 posts

181 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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caine70 said:
locogeoff said:
Also as far as I'm aware KERS is an option in F1, teams do not have to implement it.
But if the teams choose not to run it they still have to carry a 40kg weight penalty.
True, but that's 40kg of ballast that the team can choose where to place for the best handling balance.

Nick3point2

3,917 posts

181 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Energy recovery systems belong on buses and trains - not on racing cars.
I'm sorry but that is such a small minded opinion. There is a lot of potential with KERS. I think they should make KERS limitless on storage and power. Packaging and heat rejection would limit the teams to about 200kW peak 150kW sustained, and this would make a big difference to fuel consumption per lap time. You could even make it more strategic by limiting the total power output and requiring the engine to back off when the KERS is in use. The best teams would save more fuel and so start the races lighter.

Removing limits on storage/power would also completely change the electric/mechanical balance, which would drive more development of the systems to make the best system for the application.


Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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You know what, when the technology becomes almost totally incomprehensible, that is when lots of fans will drift off.

I think one of the reasons why F1 and motorsport is popular with fans is that, even though the engineering may be state of the art - it is by and large, understandable.

Once you get into batteries and various electronic devices you begin to see motor sport fans' eyes glaze over. It does not compute with what they understand motor sport to be.

The engineering in motorsport has to be sexy. Electronic poweerr recovery systems, batteries and other such non-mechanical devices just don't seem to belong in motor sport.

Nick3point2

3,917 posts

181 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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I would say the most important thing is to stress the performance point of view on any new technology.

The electric pit lane isnt really a technical regulation, it's sporting, since any KERS equipped car could probably already do this. So all you have to do is put forward a robust case for the benefits of KERS.

oyster

12,609 posts

249 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Munich said:
You are quite right with your example - here the driver simply didn't look before moving off. Maybe if the car had the petrol engine running you might have approached the car differently because you would have been aware that someone was in the car and assumed that that someone was about to drive off.

I suppose my point is that once electric vehicles are under way on a normal road, then it really should be the responsibility of the pedestrian to make sure the road is clear before crossing and not assume the road is clear simply be virtue of no noise.

As far as I'm concerned, one of the benefits of going electric is that the back ground noise of cars will be far quieter.
You can't hear car engines above about 20 mph anyway so electric won't help in that regard.