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PSBuckshot

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4,871 posts

43 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
Allyc85 said:
The crew have been given a reprimand for a lack of safety awareness, I dont think ive ever heard anybody get one of these!

http://www.crash.net/world+rally/news/184776/1/sol...
Now that is stupid!
He was pushing hard, it is motorsport afterall.

Mini1275

10,383 posts

66 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
PSBuckshot said:
Allyc85 said:
The crew have been given a reprimand for a lack of safety awareness, I dont think ive ever heard anybody get one of these!

http://www.crash.net/world+rally/news/184776/1/sol...
Now that is stupid!
He was pushing hard, it is motorsport afterall.
Now I like Solberg a lot but I think he was very, very stupid today.

He wouldn't of known what he was heading to/for and should have slowed down. He could have easily taken down a group of people.

It was just a stupid thing to do in my opinion and he deserves a reprimand at the very least.

Allyc85

4,833 posts

70 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
laugh got to love Novikov! Goes off and eventually rejoins with the front end totally smashed in with the car mechanically fine.

Allyc85

4,833 posts

70 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
http://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/25487131482...

Amazing that he can still drive this!

TankRS

1,959 posts

38 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
Mini1275 said:
PSBuckshot said:
Allyc85 said:
The crew have been given a reprimand for a lack of safety awareness, I dont think ive ever heard anybody get one of these!

http://www.crash.net/world+rally/news/184776/1/sol...
Now that is stupid!
He was pushing hard, it is motorsport afterall.
Now I like Solberg a lot but I think he was very, very stupid today.

He wouldn't of known what he was heading to/for and should have slowed down. He could have easily taken down a group of people.

It was just a stupid thing to do in my opinion and he deserves a reprimand at the very least.
I’m not sure if you’re actually serious!? confused

It’s a racing incident pure and simple, the same type of accident that happens on most rallies on a weekly basis.

I could understand the decision had he been pulling a few doughnuts whilst whooping like a madman and waving his arm out of the window ( Panizi @ WRC Catalunya 2002springs to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lycIaNMfc )

Or McRae at Margam park taking a huge cut - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfF83YXjxnk

Bear in mind he’s on as close to slicks as the WRC rules will allow, so i don’t think he’d have had much more of a different outcome had he heaved the anchors and tried to stop.

With regards to the steward’s comment on spectator and marshal safety, well had anyone been in the area where he initially left the road then the marshal and spectator are wholly at fault there! The ones who were close to the telegraph pole shouldn’t have been where they were, you can clearly see a spectator area where there’s a good number of fans standing watching in safety, that is where they should have been. They have chosen to not go there so they are solely responsible for their decision on that one.

I don’t understand their comment either about ' not immediately checking the status of spectators and marshals before continuing, both actions being dangerous to those around them'. In all my years of rally marshalling I’ve never once seen this. As soon as the car gets the right way up/round they are off down stage again, unless of course they realise they have hit someone.

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Mini1275

10,383 posts

66 months

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Really? I'm not even sure if you're serious either.

So, he doesn't have a clue where or what he's heading for so the best thing to do is to just keep his foot planted and hope for the best?.

Okay.

confused

Seems stupid to me and I'm not one of these 'oh, won't somebody think of the children' types, I just disagree with what he did.

TankRS

1,959 posts

38 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
Mini1275 said:
Really? I'm not even sure if you're serious either.

So, he doesn't have a clue where or what he's heading for so the best thing to do is to just keep his foot planted and hope for the best?.

Okay.

confused

Seems stupid to me and I'm not one of these 'oh, won't somebody think of the children' types, I just disagree with what he did.
Yep I’m serious. Its a stupid decision by the stewards, one that as far as i know has never been issued to drivers previously for many similar and often worse incidents.
Had he not hit the telegraph pole and rejoined after getting the right way round i doubt we would have heard anything but how lucky he was to have got away with it.

I guess we will probably just have to agree on a difference of opinion on this.


Allyc85 said:
http://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/25487131482...

Amazing that he can still drive this!
looks almost identical to his Finland off damage

TankRS

1,959 posts

38 months

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Some utter tripe about Solbergs off on other forums too – like this thread on passion ford

nsfw as no language filter on that site.

Love the reply by collierm to one post biggrin

moribund

2,233 posts

98 months

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Surely you need to take visibility into account though? Solberg couldn't see and neither could the spectators, and that makes it a dangerous decision in my book. I'm a regular rally spectator and have an idea of where is safe to stand so I'd be pretty gutted to hit from BEHIND by a car I couldn't see coming and that was at full throttle with no consideration for who might be ahead. Even hearing it coming you'd have no idea which way to jump.

TankRS

1,959 posts

38 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
video of Novikov's off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

he nearly runs over someone at 0.33
i'm interested on how the stewards deal with that now as imo he's doing exactly what Solberg did!



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1. O Tanak (FORD) 10:24.0
2. T Neuville (Citroen) 10:24.9
3. M Ostberg (FORD) 10:25.8

well done Tanak!
perhaps the top drivers decided not to push on the powerstage?

Allyc85

4,833 posts

70 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
TankRS said:
video of Novikov's off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

he nearly runs over someone at 0.33
i'm interested on how the stewards deal with that now as imo he's doing exactly what Solberg did!
Thew only difference is that marshall had fallen over and in the panic was struggling to stand up, also Novikov did just about stop. Petter chose to keep his foot in with no visibility, which was far more stupid and dangerous.

TankRS

1,959 posts

38 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
Allyc85 said:
Thew only difference is that marshall had fallen over and in the panic was struggling to stand up, also Novikov did just about stop. Petter chose to keep his foot in with no visibility, which was far more stupid and dangerous.
sorry my bad, i hadn't noticed on first view that the marshal was already on the ground when Novikov drove at him.

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Allyc85

4,833 posts

70 months

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Winner hehewink

PSBuckshot

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Macd355

312 posts

58 months

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He's superhuman. He's only doing a part time run next year so maybe someone else can sneak in? Probably Hirvonen though Matthew Wilson will probably be challenging for the title next year rolleyes

corozin

1,922 posts

155 months

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Macd355 said:
He's superhuman. He's only doing a part time run next year so maybe someone else can sneak in? Probably Hirvonen though Matthew Wilson will probably be challenging for the title next year rolleyes
Loeb really needs to go and do something else. Utterly domninant to the extent that I believe you could argue that he has killed off interest in modern rallying. When you reach the point where you announce that you're going to not do a full season next year (and yet still fully expect to win the championship) then it's really time to move on.

Loeb did well when he ventured into Endurance racing 5-6 years ago. He should find himself a new challenge in life and go and do that.

Allyc85

4,833 posts

70 months

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Well done to Loeb on another title, not alot else you can say really!

Great drive by Latvala pushing as hard as possible and improving on tarmac all the time!

I cant believe Novikov finished 7th after his off! Its amazing how his Fiesta seems to survive big impacts, while a small stick ended Hirvonen's title chances on Rally GB last year!

Also great to see Breen win in the SWRC after PAddon threw away a 2 minute lead, putting his Fabia in a ditch! It sets up a brilliant final round in Spain with PG, Breen and Paddon all going for the title!

Trophybloo

1,036 posts

71 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
Allyc85 said:
Well done to Loeb on another title, not alot else you can say really!

Great drive by Latvala pushing as hard as possible and improving on tarmac all the time!

I cant believe Novikov finished 7th after his off! Its amazing how his Fiesta seems to survive big impacts, while a small stick ended Hirvonen's title chances on Rally GB last year!

Also great to see Breen win in the SWRC after PAddon threw away a 2 minute lead, putting his Fabia in a ditch! It sets up a brilliant final round in Spain with PG, Breen and Paddon all going for the title!
Al Rajhi wink

GravelBen

11,149 posts

114 months

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Yeah was gutted for Paddon - he doesn't make many mistakes at all and that one may have put him out of SWRC title contention. He was going well for his first tarmac rally in an S2000 car too.

TankRS

1,959 posts

38 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Latvala was lucky to get away with this off!!

http://youtu.be/AD87gpIaDQk
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