F1 to be shown on Sky F1 from 2012 Vol 2
Discussion
Just clicked onto channel 408 - watching Steve Rider interview the legend that is Emerson Fittipaldi.
For those of you who are knocking Sky - this is the first time we have a channel dedicated to F1. We are going to get access to archive like never before, proper interviews with the greats, not a 2 minute segment that we had on BBC.
Don't get me wrong, BBC was great but they were never going to be able to show everything they shot on camera. I wonder how many hours of film ended on the editors cutting room floor from all those interviews they did for the build-up show?
...and for those who continue to moan about the price - give me a break!!!! This channel is costing less than £1 a day - tell me where you can get that amount of enjoyment out of the sport of F1 (and other motorsport like F2 and F3) for less than £1 a day? I get a whole season in HD for less than taking myself and my son to see 1 race live - that's value for money for me.
Luckily I already have Sky HD, but to be honest even if I didn't, £30.25 a month for the package is money well spent in my view. Can't wait for March 9th, not sure the wife feels the same though
Let's give Sky the chance to get a season under their belt before we start knocking it. Remember that when the BBC took over from ITV there were plenty who complained about it.
Look around you guys, there are problems far more important to rant about than this. Can't wait for the new season to start...
For those of you who are knocking Sky - this is the first time we have a channel dedicated to F1. We are going to get access to archive like never before, proper interviews with the greats, not a 2 minute segment that we had on BBC.
Don't get me wrong, BBC was great but they were never going to be able to show everything they shot on camera. I wonder how many hours of film ended on the editors cutting room floor from all those interviews they did for the build-up show?
...and for those who continue to moan about the price - give me a break!!!! This channel is costing less than £1 a day - tell me where you can get that amount of enjoyment out of the sport of F1 (and other motorsport like F2 and F3) for less than £1 a day? I get a whole season in HD for less than taking myself and my son to see 1 race live - that's value for money for me.
Luckily I already have Sky HD, but to be honest even if I didn't, £30.25 a month for the package is money well spent in my view. Can't wait for March 9th, not sure the wife feels the same though
Let's give Sky the chance to get a season under their belt before we start knocking it. Remember that when the BBC took over from ITV there were plenty who complained about it.
Look around you guys, there are problems far more important to rant about than this. Can't wait for the new season to start...
LamboFan said:
Just clicked onto channel 408 - watching Steve Rider interview the legend that is Emerson Fittipaldi.
For those of you who are knocking Sky - this is the first time we have a channel dedicated to F1. We are going to get access to archive like never before, proper interviews with the greats, not a 2 minute segment that we had on BBC.
Don't get me wrong, BBC was great but they were never going to be able to show everything they shot on camera. I wonder how many hours of film ended on the editors cutting room floor from all those interviews they did for the build-up show?
...and for those who continue to moan about the price - give me a break!!!! This channel is costing less than £1 a day - tell me where you can get that amount of enjoyment out of the sport of F1 (and other motorsport like F2 and F3) for less than £1 a day? I get a whole season in HD for less than taking myself and my son to see 1 race live - that's value for money for me.
Luckily I already have Sky HD, but to be honest even if I didn't, £30.25 a month for the package is money well spent in my view. Can't wait for March 9th, not sure the wife feels the same though
Let's give Sky the chance to get a season under their belt before we start knocking it. Remember that when the BBC took over from ITV there were plenty who complained about it.
Look around you guys, there are problems far more important to rant about than this. Can't wait for the new season to start...
I suggest you search for "F1Digital+" on a search engine then. That was the first channel that was dedicated to F1, an official FOM channel too, not just a customer broadcaster channel.For those of you who are knocking Sky - this is the first time we have a channel dedicated to F1. We are going to get access to archive like never before, proper interviews with the greats, not a 2 minute segment that we had on BBC.
Don't get me wrong, BBC was great but they were never going to be able to show everything they shot on camera. I wonder how many hours of film ended on the editors cutting room floor from all those interviews they did for the build-up show?
...and for those who continue to moan about the price - give me a break!!!! This channel is costing less than £1 a day - tell me where you can get that amount of enjoyment out of the sport of F1 (and other motorsport like F2 and F3) for less than £1 a day? I get a whole season in HD for less than taking myself and my son to see 1 race live - that's value for money for me.
Luckily I already have Sky HD, but to be honest even if I didn't, £30.25 a month for the package is money well spent in my view. Can't wait for March 9th, not sure the wife feels the same though
Let's give Sky the chance to get a season under their belt before we start knocking it. Remember that when the BBC took over from ITV there were plenty who complained about it.
Look around you guys, there are problems far more important to rant about than this. Can't wait for the new season to start...
That made me not want to read the rest of your post because you obviously don't have a clue. But I did.
HD - Well, the BBC provided all of last season in HD too, so that is not an advantage of Sky.
Yes, Sky's HD is better than BBC's, but it comes from the same source (FOM) so there won't be massive difference.
You can make anything sound cheap by breaking it down. The TV license fee cost 40p a day but there are still people who complain about it.
You already have Sky so you are not having to spend that much extra, but there are a lot more people in this country that only have Freeview that face a £30 a month increase in just the TV bill if they want towatch every race live.
Virgin Media customers don't get it much better either, having to buy the entire Sky Football pack just goet one channel.
At least when the BBC took it over from the BBC they improved it. Something that will be extremely hard to do, especially with them taking a backwards step and showing adverts.
£1 a day for 10 90 minute races does not sound that great a deal to me. Even if they are broadcasting 24 hour wall to wall F1 footage for 365 days a year, F1 fan that I am (or perhaps "was"), I do have a life beyond watching F1 on TV.
We will see how it goes. No doubt Sky will throw everything they have got at the first season of coverage (as ITV did back in 1997). When the sums start not making economic sense to them at a later date we will see how it pans out.
In three or four years time I predict that F1 will be finished as a "national" TV watched sport in the UK.
We will see how it goes. No doubt Sky will throw everything they have got at the first season of coverage (as ITV did back in 1997). When the sums start not making economic sense to them at a later date we will see how it pans out.
In three or four years time I predict that F1 will be finished as a "national" TV watched sport in the UK.
Eric Mc said:
£1 a day for 10 90 minute races does not sound that great a deal to me. Even if they are broadcasting 24 hour wall to wall F1 footage for 365 days a year, F1 fan that I am (or perhaps "was"), I do have a life beyond watching F1 on TV.
We will see how it goes. No doubt Sky will throw everything they have got at the first season of coverage (as ITV did back in 1997). When the sums start not making economic sense to them at a later date we will see how it pans out.
In three or four years time I predict that F1 will be finished as a "national" TV watched sport in the UK.
Presumably just like that hardly watched nowadays sport "Football" yes?We will see how it goes. No doubt Sky will throw everything they have got at the first season of coverage (as ITV did back in 1997). When the sums start not making economic sense to them at a later date we will see how it pans out.
In three or four years time I predict that F1 will be finished as a "national" TV watched sport in the UK.
If it's there and people want it. They'll pay for it. Supply and Demand. Just because a vocal minority don't want to pay for Sky F1 (their choice) doesn't mean the sport is about to fail or Sky is about to go bankrupt. And it also doesn't mean that people won't be more than happy to pay for increased volume of coverage.
Eric Mc said:
£1 a day for 10 90 minute races does not sound that great a deal to me. Even if they are broadcasting 24 hour wall to wall F1 footage for 365 days a year, F1 fan that I am (or perhaps "was"), I do have a life beyond watching F1 on TV.
We will see how it goes. No doubt Sky will throw everything they have got at the first season of coverage (as ITV did back in 1997). When the sums start not making economic sense to them at a later date we will see how it pans out.
In three or four years time I predict that F1 will be finished as a "national" TV watched sport in the UK.
I think you are wrong, with the caveat that "finished" means no live races, in fact no races at all, highlights only that are stuck on a mid week schedule somewhere.We will see how it goes. No doubt Sky will throw everything they have got at the first season of coverage (as ITV did back in 1997). When the sums start not making economic sense to them at a later date we will see how it pans out.
In three or four years time I predict that F1 will be finished as a "national" TV watched sport in the UK.
"Finished" to me would not mean on pay tv only.
F1 needs coverage so that sponsors will pony up large sums of cash for the pleasure of having their logo/name on a car. Or even on an advertising board trackside.
Yes the UK is only part of the audience for F1, agreed. Now go and ask all the teams, pirelli, sponsors, track owners and event promoters if they'd be happy if UK coverage was 10pm on a tuesday night for half an hour.
If it all went to crap all of these people would demand coverage and it'd be down to Bernie (or possibly his replacement by that time..) to provide it. If that meant cutting the sale price they'd be forced in to it one way or another - maybe even set up their own channel..
I think its far more likely that you'd see Sky trying to punt their coverage to broadcasters in other countries.
Peacockantony said:
At least when the BBC took it over from the BBC they improved it. Something that will be extremely hard to do, especially with them taking a backwards step and showing adverts.
I appreciate you think Sky are the worst thing in the world ever but the fact is BBC stiffed us good and proper.However I have to say I think Sky will improve the coverage, I've been very impressed with what I've seen so far. All we've seen from the BBC is "we will still be at every race live" (without most of the staff that made it a success in the first place".
Peacockantony said:
Sorry to be pedantic but it will not be half a race, most of them will only be a few laps shorter than a full race anyway. The laps missed nothing will have happened anyway.
YOU HAVE A TIME MACHINE!!! Why would you admit to owning such a thing in an open forum? Madness.Rich_W said:
Presumably just like that hardly watched nowadays sport "Football" yes?
If it's there and people want it. They'll pay for it. Supply and Demand. Just because a vocal minority don't want to pay for Sky F1 (their choice) doesn't mean the sport is about to fail or Sky is about to go bankrupt. And it also doesn't mean that people won't be more than happy to pay for increased volume of coverage.
Not quite, you can watch plenty of live football on the BBC and ITV at international and club level. On top of that there is a strong pub culture around football and football is a sport with many different competitions, much like motorsport, F1 is one of the motorsport competitions and much like WRC a shift away from regular public broadcasting will kill the sport.If it's there and people want it. They'll pay for it. Supply and Demand. Just because a vocal minority don't want to pay for Sky F1 (their choice) doesn't mean the sport is about to fail or Sky is about to go bankrupt. And it also doesn't mean that people won't be more than happy to pay for increased volume of coverage.
As for the SKYF1 channel, so far they've got grand intentions and shown themselves to be serious for now. However, access to Bernie's naughty dvd collection presumably doesn't come cheap and there aren't all that many legends that are there to be interviewed TBH let alone fill an entire channel with. By the 2013 season they'll be out of ideas IMHP...
I'll also wager that in 2013 Skyf1 will become sky motorsports and they'll try and buy everything in reach to try and fill the channel... and they'll want a packet for it from 2013 onwards.
Peacockantony said:
I suggest you search for "F1Digital+" on a search engine then. That was the first channel that was dedicated to F1, an official FOM channel too, not just a customer broadcaster channel.
That made me not want to read the rest of your post because you obviously don't have a clue. But I did.
HD - Well, the BBC provided all of last season in HD too, so that is not an advantage of Sky.
Yes, Sky's HD is better than BBC's, but it comes from the same source (FOM) so there won't be massive difference.
You can make anything sound cheap by breaking it down. The TV license fee cost 40p a day but there are still people who complain about it.
You already have Sky so you are not having to spend that much extra, but there are a lot more people in this country that only have Freeview that face a £30 a month increase in just the TV bill if they want towatch every race live.
Virgin Media customers don't get it much better either, having to buy the entire Sky Football pack just goet one channel.
At least when the BBC took it over from the BBC they improved it. Something that will be extremely hard to do, especially with them taking a backwards step and showing adverts.
What I should have said was first 'proper' channel. I am aware of that channel that Bernie setup - he went the pay-per-view route that was doomed from the start.That made me not want to read the rest of your post because you obviously don't have a clue. But I did.
HD - Well, the BBC provided all of last season in HD too, so that is not an advantage of Sky.
Yes, Sky's HD is better than BBC's, but it comes from the same source (FOM) so there won't be massive difference.
You can make anything sound cheap by breaking it down. The TV license fee cost 40p a day but there are still people who complain about it.
You already have Sky so you are not having to spend that much extra, but there are a lot more people in this country that only have Freeview that face a £30 a month increase in just the TV bill if they want towatch every race live.
Virgin Media customers don't get it much better either, having to buy the entire Sky Football pack just goet one channel.
At least when the BBC took it over from the BBC they improved it. Something that will be extremely hard to do, especially with them taking a backwards step and showing adverts.
At no point in my post did I mention SKY HD is an advantage over the BBC HD - in fact I said the BBC did a great job. I was referring to the fact I can see all races in HD for less than taking my son to 1 live race!! The difference I was talking about is that a dedicated channel can give us longer interviews for those of us who actually want to listen to the whole thing, not just some sound bites.
Yes, you can make anything sound cheap but at the end of the day fact is this will cost less than £1 a day - not expensive in my mind. I don't drink or smoke so it always makes me laugh how much people spend on that a year. F1 is my only vice in life so I think I can stretch to less than £1 a day. However I already have Sky HD so to be honest it's a win win for me
There are always going to be those who have something others want but can't afford. I chose Sky over all the 'free boxes' as I believe in this world that you actually get what you pay for.
Can Sky improve it, I think they can, Martin Brundle is a huge draw for the fans, and Sky knew that - why do you think they were not interested in Eddie and David, nice guys maybe but Martin has proved himself as a professional presenter who's never afraid to speak his mind, even in front of the midget live on TV - top man.
Will adverts put me off? No, because the race itself will not have adverts, as for the pre and post shows, the F1 magazine and the numerous other programmes that plan on showing, I have the Sky HD+ box so they will all be recorded and I can watch them later and fast forward the adverts.
madbadger said:
~£500 is a lot for 10 races.
There is no sensible way to justify it.
£500?? I'm paying waaaay less than that. Plus I get loads of other channels too (Game of Thrones second season coming up...), plus a capable PVR. Plus broadband and calls.There is no sensible way to justify it.
It's actually pretty good value for me personally, the F1 is just the icing on the cake.
_dobbo_ said:
madbadger said:
~£500 is a lot for 10 races.
There is no sensible way to justify it.
£500?? I'm paying waaaay less than that. Plus I get loads of other channels too (Game of Thrones second season coming up...), plus a capable PVR. Plus broadband and calls.There is no sensible way to justify it.
It's actually pretty good value for me personally, the F1 is just the icing on the cake.
I have no sky. How much will it cost for 1 year to watch 10 races? Preferably in HD.
Crafty_ said:
^^ what he said.
Don't forget they will do all practice / quali too which the beeb will not.
erm. So why have BBC hired James Allen to do the practice sessions then? Will that be 5Live only? Or Red button as before. I also thought Qualifying would be available still as per normal on Saturday (even if it's delayed coverage)Don't forget they will do all practice / quali too which the beeb will not.
madbadger said:
~£500 is a lot for 10 races.
There is no sensible way to justify it.
£500!!! not with Sky...There is no sensible way to justify it.
It's £30.25 per month - that's £363 (less than £1 a day) and as the guy above said, you can give your partner the £100 M&S Voucher or spend it yourself. That get's you the Sky HD+ Box for free, installation is free too.
It's a no-brainer
Regards Steve Rider - he's more motorsport than football, he's just been waiting in the wings to come back to a sport he has a passion for. Why would Autosport hire him every year to MC their awards night? He's probably well regarded in F1 circles.
BTW: Is that right that the BBC have hired James 'The Cock' Allen - ROFLMAO
Not in the mood to write a massive reply tonight, so I will reply to earlier posts tomorrow.
BBC 5live will still continue to COVER ALL SESSIONS live too. So technically the BBC are covering every session of the 2012 season live.
Crafty_ said:
^^ what he said.
Don't forget they will do all practice / quali too which the beeb will not.
Err. I think you will find that the Beeb will be covering every qualy on TV, half live, the other half delayed, just as with the races themselves.Don't forget they will do all practice / quali too which the beeb will not.
BBC 5live will still continue to COVER ALL SESSIONS live too. So technically the BBC are covering every session of the 2012 season live.
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