F1 to be shown on Sky F1 from 2012 Vol 2

[RumbleOfThunder]

Hmm radio or TV, radio or TV. SKY PLEASE.

[teacake]

LamboFan said:

£500!!! not with Sky...

It's £30.25 per month - that's £363 (less than £1 a day) and as the guy above said, you can give your partner the £100 M&S Voucher or spend it yourself. That get's you the Sky HD+ Box for free, installation is free too.

It's a no-brainer

But they're not showing a race every day, so you can't really use the £1 a day argument. More like £36 a race.

So, yes, it's a no brainer. It's not worth it when £40 gets you a dish and receiver that'll pick up one of the European channels showing the races for free.

[Eric Mc]

Cricket works best on radio anyway.

[madbadger]

teacake said:

LamboFan said:

£500!!! not with Sky...

It's £30.25 per month - that's £363 (less than £1 a day) and as the guy above said, you can give your partner the £100 M&S Voucher or spend it yourself. That get's you the Sky HD+ Box for free, installation is free too.

It's a no-brainer

But they're not showing a race every day, so you can't really use the £1 a day argument. More like £36 a race.

So, yes, it's a no brainer. It's not worth it when £40 gets you a dish and receiver that'll pick up one of the European channels showing the races for free.

^

£36 a race is not a no brainer.

Even though, I think originally I thought it would need the Sky Sports package which was looking like ~£40+ a month. So it is still almost £20 a race cheaper.

[essayer]

I think in fairness it's £12.50 per race, if you get the M&S offer, then £18 per race in subsequent years.

But, I don't have Sky, and I don't want it. I doubt I'd be in to watch all of them live anyway. So, to me, F1, the sport that generates vast amounts of revenue from advertising, isn't worth spending that amount of cash on. I suspect many others will be of the same opinion.

[Eric Mc]

essayer said:

I think in fairness it's £12.50 per race, if you get the M&S offer, then £18 per race in subsequent years.

But, I don't have Sky, and I don't want it. I doubt I'd be in to watch all of them live anyway. So, to me, F1, the sport that generates vast amounts of revenue from advertising, isn't worth spending that amount of cash on. I suspect many others will be of the same opinion.

My position entirely.

It is most definitely NOT worth it if you are not an existing Sky customer.

[richie barry]

im glad i have sky

[LamboFan]

teacake said:

LamboFan said:

£500!!! not with Sky...

It's £30.25 per month - that's £363 (less than £1 a day) and as the guy above said, you can give your partner the £100 M&S Voucher or spend it yourself. That get's you the Sky HD+ Box for free, installation is free too.

It's a no-brainer

But they're not showing a race every day, so you can't really use the £1 a day argument. More like £36 a race.

So, yes, it's a no brainer. It's not worth it when £40 gets you a dish and receiver that'll pick up one of the European channels showing the races for free.

Still cheaper to watch every F1 race this year with my son than to take him to Silverstone to see 1 F1 race live.

There is another angle to consider, living in the country as I do, the only way to get TV is via Satellite, no cable here and normal aerial's reception is crap which is why we went with Sky all those years ago. Never looked back...

Let's face facts... Murdock speaks Bernie's language - MONEY - Love them or hate them, that's the facts. Look at the cost of race tickets, merchandise etc - it's over priced some would say, but they still sell millions of it around the world - it's market forces, live with it.

[Eric Mc]

As I have said on one of the other related threads, why is Sky making it attractive to already existing Sky customers but extremely expensive for those who currently don't have Sky. Seems an odd way of attracting new customers.

[Mojocvh]

teacake said:

But they're not showing a race every day, so you can't really use the £1 a day argument. More like £36 a race.

So, yes, it's a no brainer. It's not worth it when £40 gets you a dish and receiver that'll pick up one of the European channels showing the races for free.

£510 per year [incl their "cheaper" sky line rental]

Hmm my system has 10,000 channels, motorized dish (that is basically corrosion proof for 15 yrs minimum ) and is paid for not to mention the satisfaction of sorting it out myself.. but hey, go get SKY for your sat needs...........

[_dobbo_]

Eric Mc said:

As I have said on one of the other related threads, why is Sky making it attractive to already existing Sky customers but extremely expensive for those who currently don't have Sky. Seems an odd way of attracting new customers.

It's the same price? I pay £30 a month. To get the F1 as a new customer you have to pay £30 a month, but you get £100 of M&S vouchers back.

Seems to me significantly more attractive to new customers not existing?

[_dobbo_]

Mojocvh said:

£510 per year [incl their "cheaper" sky line rental]

Hmm my system has 10,000 channels, motorized dish (that is basically corrosion proof for 15 yrs minimum ) and is paid for not to mention the satisfaction of sorting it out myself.. but hey, go get SKY for your sat needs...........

Sigh. This thread is pointless. There seems to be no reason at all for me to continue pointing out that it isn't £510, or £500 or even close to that. So I won't bother any more because frankly I couldn't give a crap if people miss F1 races through wilful ignorance or otherwise. I won't be.

I suppose your motorised dish was free too, along with whatever decoding equipment and PVR you have, and came on a unicorn's back, and gets you free broadband delivered by 100 naked virgins.

These Sky mugs eh?

[Eric Mc]

_dobbo_ said:

Eric Mc said:

As I have said on one of the other related threads, why is Sky making it attractive to already existing Sky customers but extremely expensive for those who currently don't have Sky. Seems an odd way of attracting new customers.

It's the same price? I pay £30 a month. To get the F1 as a new customer you have to pay £30 a month, but you get £100 of M&S vouchers back.

Seems to me significantly more attractive to new customers not existing?

£360 for ten races is absolutely criminal. And to make it even slightly worthwhile you would have to make sure you don't miss any of the live broadcasts. Who is going to be able to do that for the entirety of the F1 season unless they are a total F1 geek and put F1 above all other aspects of their lives?

The whole thing is tremendously bad value and actually an imposition.

[robmlufc]

Eric Mc said:

£360 for ten races is absolutely criminal. And to make it even slightly worthwhile you would have to make sure you don't miss any of the live broadcasts. Who is going to be able to do that for the entirety of the F1 season unless they are a total F1 geek and put F1 above all other aspects of their lives?

The whole thing is tremendously bad value and actually an imposition.

Your not being forced to buy it.

[Eric Mc]

robmlufc said:

Eric Mc said:

£360 for ten races is absolutely criminal. And to make it even slightly worthwhile you would have to make sure you don't miss any of the live broadcasts. Who is going to be able to do that for the entirety of the F1 season unless they are a total F1 geek and put F1 above all other aspects of their lives?

The whole thing is tremendously bad value and actually an imposition.

Your not being forced to buy it.

Absolutely - but I have been forced into not being able to see all the races live - which I'd been able to do for the past 20 years.

The imposition I refer to is more the fact that if you are paying £360 for the privilege of watching each Sky race live, that MAY force you to watch races that you might otherwise not have bothered with - just because you want to make the investment feel worthwhile. If you kiss two live races, the season will cost you £45 for each race.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 2nd March 12:29

[robmlufc]

Eric Mc said:

Absolutely - but I have been forced into not being able to see all the races live - which I'd been able to do for the past 20 years.

Well you should be blaming the BBC for that, I take it you will be boycotting their coverage since you feel so strongly about it?

[Eric Mc]

robmlufc said:

Eric Mc said:

Absolutely - but I have been forced into not being able to see all the races live - which I'd been able to do for the past 20 years.

Well you should be blaming the BBC for that, I take it you will be boycotting their coverage since you feel so strongly about it?

The BBC coverage, although restricted compared to the past, is not forcing me to pay out additional money.

[rampageturke]

So what else would be on this channel when races arent on? re-runs?

Glad I have a racing underground account right now (1 invite going!)

[playalistic]

rampageturke said:

So what else would be on this channel when races arent on? re-runs?

Glad I have a racing underground account right now (1 invite going!)

Ooh yes please! (PH email is busted at the mo)

[Chrisgr31]

Eric Mc said:

_dobbo_ said:

Eric Mc said:

As I have said on one of the other related threads, why is Sky making it attractive to already existing Sky customers but extremely expensive for those who currently don't have Sky. Seems an odd way of attracting new customers.

It's the same price? I pay £30 a month. To get the F1 as a new customer you have to pay £30 a month, but you get £100 of M&S vouchers back.

Seems to me significantly more attractive to new customers not existing?

£360 for ten races is absolutely criminal. And to make it even slightly worthwhile you would have to make sure you don't miss any of the live broadcasts. Who is going to be able to do that for the entirety of the F1 season unless they are a total F1 geek and put F1 above all other aspects of their lives?

The whole thing is tremendously bad value and actually an imposition.

The reality is the Sky Fans & Sky Detractors will never see eye to ey on this. The reality is as a new subscriber you would have to pay a minimum of £360 per year (at current prices) to get SKY albetit that there is currently a rebate of £100 by M & S voucher.

For that £360 you get access to the F1 channel which is showing all races and practice and qualifying live. Now the reality is that most of us would only be able to watch qualifying and the race live because work gets in the way of practice. Equally for most of us some other event will stopus watching some qualifying or races because our family life will require us to miss it, or we'll be on holiday etc. Then of course there is the issue that half the races are on the BBC, so the reality is that we're paying £360 to watch 8, 9 or 10 sessions of qualifying and racing.

Yes the F1 channel shows more but when am I suppossed to watch it? I get home from work about 8pm, and am up at 6am, my wife likes to see me (lord knows why ) and wont want to watch the F1 channel all the time.

Yes Football works on Sky but thats because there are more football matched than F1 races, there are more football fans than F1 races, football fans will watch other matches, and the big tournaments when on. Free to air cannot compete with Sky for football purely because they don't have another time available to broadcast it.

I suspect that at the end of the coming season we will find sponsors of F1 questioning the coverage in the UK and whether they are getting value for money. Indeed Pitpass carried a report http://www.pitpass.com/45644-Gribkowsky-trial-in-t... recently which makes the comment that this year there has not been one sponsorship deal at more than £10million, now there will be a lot of reasons for that including the ecomonmy etc, but part may be due to concern about viewing figures. If the UK has gone over to pay to view TV for some live races its probably not long before it all goes to Sky in the UK, and other countries also move from free to air.

It is sponsorship that provides most of the teams cash!