RE: Nissan DeltaWing: the full story

RE: Nissan DeltaWing: the full story

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Henry Fiddleton

1,581 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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But the diesels were/are innovative?

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Henry Fiddleton said:
But the diesels were/are innovative?
Yes, but who wants to go to France to see Audi TDis flying along at 200mph an inch from the bumper of the car in front when you can see the same thing on your local motorway?

Sorry. smile

Henry Fiddleton

1,581 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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The same can be said for petrol?

I am a Le Mans regular, and seeing the diesels (even hearing them..sometimes) is just the same as petrol! (in the sense that they are mega quick, make a unique noise, and raise noise to tail when need be).

The LMP1 cars looked fantasic (you dont see the engine!).

Anyway, its going O/T- but the diesels seem to get a hard time, when in fact they deserve some credit for being so far ahead of the curve in terms of development.


MKnight702

3,109 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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NISS, japanese for BATM

DanDC5

18,787 posts

167 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Just seen the video of Marino Franchitti driving it, he looks very tentative getting it round corners. I'm guessing it's still not as stable as it needs to be.

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Surely a design like this will be fast in the straights but very slow in the corners.

Have to hand it to Nissan for thinking outside the box though, suprised it will be racing at this years LM too, cant wait!

HeavySoul

9,214 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Some interesting detail shots over here

I think it is great to see something a bit different actually going for it.

Full credit to everyone involved - I look forward to seeing how it goes smile

moribund

Original Poster:

4,031 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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In before the haters? Looking forward to seeing this in the flesh, this is the sort of thing that makes Le Mans unique.

ETA: No, I was far too slow rolleyes D'oh.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&...

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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weyland yutani said:
Surely a design like this will be fast in the straights but very slow in the corners.

Have to hand it to Nissan for thinking outside the box though, suprised it will be racing at this years LM too, cant wait!
This has zip to do with Nissan, design-wise, bar the engine.

Edited by DrTre on Tuesday 13th March 19:06

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

178 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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How refreshing, hope it beats all expectations.

Edited by Johnboy Mac on Tuesday 13th March 21:21

Streetrod

6,468 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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When I first saw the design I thought that it was going to under steer like crazy, but having now seen the videos it looks very stable through the corners so I am impressed. Looking forward to seeing it at Le Mans now

Wadeski

8,157 posts

213 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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winning through fuel regs isnt new - the Mazda 787B wasnt the fastest but had an endurance advantage because of the regs, and the diesel Audis just outlast everything else, too. This could well have potential.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Great to see some original thinking.

And from the ACO too! That's refreshing.

However I can't help thinking that all that rear-bias on the weight - presumably countered by ground-effect suck at the front - is a backflip accident waiting to happen?


groomi

9,317 posts

243 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Gizmo! said:
Great to see some original thinking.

And from the ACO too! That's refreshing.

However I can't help thinking that all that rear-bias on the weight - presumably countered by ground-effect suck at the front - is a backflip accident waiting to happen?
I'm not so sure. If the nose lifts it will expose a far greater area of floor at the rear of the car than the front, so it's possible that the air resistance might actually stabilise the car in such an event.

Hopefully they won't be crashing it though, so we won't get to find out!

chrisjl

785 posts

282 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Interesting to see something new and novel being actively encouraged (unlike in other branches of motorsport). The efficiency claims do sound quite bold (optimistic?) to me, but time will tell.

Article said:
...putting all the mass behind the centre of gravity...
confused
Errr,... no.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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In before the idiots.

I can't wait to see it in action cloud9

paul_k

88 posts

220 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Kind of looks right...Best of luck with this.
Great that Nissan are backing this concept with a Juke engine.
Slightly surprised that the Cd is .24
GTR is .268.

Exar Kun

34 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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chrisjl said:
confused
Errr,... no.
Haha - was just popping in to say the same thing. If all the mass was behind the centre of gravity then, well... it wouldn't be the centre of gravity would it? Maybe they mean the centre of gravity is a ways behind the centre of pressure?

johnhenry

207 posts

174 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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the most interesting point that stands out to me is;

they're using a 1.6 turbo - which is going to be what is going to be used in f1 in 2013, so in theory, they could get a year of data and improvements, making a rather nice platform for nissan to either sell engines to f1 entry teams or enter themselves.

from the looks of it as well it doesnt take much for the thing to become an f1 car, im not up on the regs too much but im sure this is all being considered.

watching this space avidly

Repent

358 posts

173 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Makes me think of the 2j, something completely and utterly different to its contemporaries.



Amazing project though, 90% sure to be going to Le Mans this year and Id love to see this fly around more than anything else, especially since a lot of them will likely have half the aural character of their previous incarnations. This is just batty and the engineering looks brilliant.