Losing interest in f1?

Losing interest in f1?

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entropy

5,441 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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I was never too bothered with the Asia/Pacific races but now with races that suits Sunday afternoons/evenings it's now the truest test.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

237 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
The whole sport is owned by someone that most right-thinking people despise. If your famous morals can cope with that I don't know why you have such a problem with Rupert Murdoch.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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wolves_wanderer said:
Eric Mc said:
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
The whole sport is owned by someone that most right-thinking people despise. If your famous morals can cope with that I don't know why you have such a problem with Rupert Murdoch.
I think you will find he is the biggest and the baddest of them all - and the one who has detrimentally affected British culture most deeply.

Colin Chapman may not have been a saint, but I don't think his effect on British society has been quite as disastrous as Rupert M's.

F1GTRUeno

6,354 posts

218 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Eric Mc said:
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
The whole sport is owned by someone that most right-thinking people despise. If your famous morals can cope with that I don't know why you have such a problem with Rupert Murdoch.
I think you will find he is the biggest and the baddest of them all - and the one who has detrimentally affected British culture most deeply.

Colin Chapman may not have been a saint, but I don't think his effect on British society has been quite as disastrous as Rupert M's.
Educate me, aside from the phone hacking scandal, what's Murdoch supposedly responsible for that's effected British society so badly?

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I can see his popint and agree with a lot of what he says.

However, we have been so spoiled fort so long that I am happy to watch F1 however I can - and I am old enough to remember the days when we got no coverage.
I feel about the same way Eric , ok it was not live this weekend but for me i just an not see how any broadcaster could do better than the BBC's coverage

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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F1GTRUeno said:
Eric Mc said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Eric Mc said:
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
The whole sport is owned by someone that most right-thinking people despise. If your famous morals can cope with that I don't know why you have such a problem with Rupert Murdoch.
I think you will find he is the biggest and the baddest of them all - and the one who has detrimentally affected British culture most deeply.

Colin Chapman may not have been a saint, but I don't think his effect on British society has been quite as disastrous as Rupert M's.
Educate me, aside from the phone hacking scandal, what's Murdoch supposedly responsible for that's effected British society so badly?
To be honest, it would require a book ot two to go through the fundamental ways in which print and broadcast media has been dragged down by Murdoch inspired leadership and behaviour. Every night on the news we see evidence of the disaster he has wrought in this country.

The sooner he is behind bars the better.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Gaz. said:
Eric Mc said:
F1GTRUeno said:
Eric Mc said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Eric Mc said:
Perhaps seeing the TV rights of a sport you love being sold down the river to an organisation part owned by people you might despise isn't of importance to you but it may be to others.
The whole sport is owned by someone that most right-thinking people despise. If your famous morals can cope with that I don't know why you have such a problem with Rupert Murdoch.
I think you will find he is the biggest and the baddest of them all - and the one who has detrimentally affected British culture most deeply.

Colin Chapman may not have been a saint, but I don't think his effect on British society has been quite as disastrous as Rupert M's.
Educate me, aside from the phone hacking scandal, what's Murdoch supposedly responsible for that's effected British society so badly?
To be honest, it would require a book ot two to go through the fundamental ways in which print and broadcast media has been dragged down by Murdoch inspired leadership and behaviour. Every night on the news we see evidence of the disaster he has wrought in this country.

The sooner he is behind bars the better.
Well go and read your book or two then get back to us.
Are You saying you do not know the damage Murdoch has done

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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My interest has never been stronger tbh..thanks to the New F1 channel smile

Thank you Sky bow

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Gaz. said:
Well go and read your book or two then get back to us.
I was meaning that I would need to WRITE a book or two to list the impacts he has made.

I am absolutely convinced that a large aspect of the "dumbing down" and "de-moralisation" (in the true sense of the word) of British society has been very largely driven by the tabloid press and at the vanguard of this has been the Murdoch press. I know there have been lots of other social factors as well but Murdoch definitely has been extremely influential too.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Excellent choice, sir.

I read this book 40 years ago and it it so prescient of modern society.

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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y2blade said:
My interest has never been stronger tbh..thanks to the New F1 channel smile

Thank you Sky bow
Qualitatively I'd say it's about the same, BBC a slight edge having done a few seasons.

Quantitively Sky wins.

My interest in F1 is equally at an all-time high but that more to do with the nature of 4 winners from 4 races and no-one clearly dominant than the coverage.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Did I hear it right after the race that they will be going to the test days, and reporting from there? That would be quite good. They could probably get all geek on us! thumbup

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Gaz. said:
Lost soul said:
Are You saying you do not know the damage Murdoch has done
I'm saying that he isn't public enemy number 1 nor deserves the mantle of "reason why Britian has gone down the toilet" as per Eric's opinion.
If you are going to put quote marks around what you are alleging are my comments, do make an effort to quote accurately please.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
If you are going to put quote marks around what you are alleging are my comments, do make an effort to quote accurately please.
You've heard of paraphrasing right?

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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djstevec said:
Eric Mc said:
If you are going to put quote marks around what you are alleging are my comments, do make an effort to quote accurately please.
You've heard of paraphrasing right?
No point in doing it if it is inaccurate.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
djstevec said:
Eric Mc said:
If you are going to put quote marks around what you are alleging are my comments, do make an effort to quote accurately please.
You've heard of paraphrasing right?
No point in doing it if it is inaccurate.
It isnt.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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djstevec said:
Eric Mc said:
djstevec said:
Eric Mc said:
If you are going to put quote marks around what you are alleging are my comments, do make an effort to quote accurately please.
You've heard of paraphrasing right?
No point in doing it if it is inaccurate.
It isnt.
I beg to differ.

I said he was a factor in the decline of morals in the UK. I didn't say he was the cause of it.

And if you can't see the influence his media outlets have had in helping destroy this country, then I put it to you that you might be one of his victims.
Right now I am listening to his son justifying e-mails he sent to the culture minister prior to the minister deciding that it was OK for Murdoch's company to own 100% of B Sky B.

The organisation he works for and his father owns stinks to the rafters and I will dance with joy when both Murdochs are removed from their positions - which is going to happen sooner or later.

Expect Jeremy Hunt to fall on his sword pretty soon.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I beg to differ.

I said he was a factor in the decline of morals in the UK. I didn't say he was the cause of it.

And if you can't see the influence his media outlets have had in helping destroy this country, then I put it to you that you might be one of his victims.
Right now I am listening to his son justifying e-mails he sent to the culture minister prior to the minister deciding that it was OK for Murdoch's company to own 100% of B Sky B.

The organisation he works for and his father owns stinks to the rafters and I will dance with joy when both Murdochs are removed from their positions - which is going to happen sooner or later.

Expect Jeremy Hunt to fall on his sword pretty soon.
I beg to differ your differ then,

This is your quote about Murdoch;

"I think you will find he is the biggest and the baddest of them all - and the one who has detrimentally affected British culture most deeply."

So I think Gaz.'s paraphrase of your own quote was pretty accurate.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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I was talking about "big and bad" individuals not "big and baddest" factors.

A subtle difference which you obviously failed to discern.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I was talking about "big and bad" individuals not "big and baddest" factors.

A subtle difference which you obviously failed to discern.
So this big bad individual hasn't been one, or contributed to, the big bad factors then??? Make your mind up.