Pastor: not a w**ker says Frank!
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How about He was Banned "For Life" at Monaco after ignoring yellow Flags and hitting a marshall Breaking his neck. That also led to a 4 race ban at the time. I believe that somebody, (Hugo Chavez and a LOT of money has been mentioned), managed to persuade the Monaco organisers to lift it hence his racing there since but perhaps he ought to be a little careful in the Principality.
Vocal Minority said:
EDLT said:
dom180 said:
EDLT said:
SmoothCriminal said:
f
ks sake all this wking about Maldonado is making me sick.
He's won ONE race for fks sake and the only reason why he did win is because whether you agree with it or not the FASTEST man on track was put to the back of the grid fks sake get some perspective.
+1,000,000ks sake all this wking about Maldonado is making me sick. He's won ONE race for f
ks sake and the only reason why he did win is because whether you agree with it or not the FASTEST man on track was put to the back of the grid fks sake get some perspective. We got the same rubbish when Rosberg won. There has been plenty of mid-pack drivers that occasionally win a race, Maldonardo (and Rosberg) didn't level up and suddenly become a better driver.
People like DC threw away countless wins (1995) before finally nailing their first....
Maldo showed up well against Rubens last year - outqualifying Rubens in Monaco and Silverstone by a fair margin in his first year and with a higher average place overall - something Jenson failed to do in his champioship year alongside Rubens, with 9 seasons under his belt compared to Maldo being in his first season.....)
I don't think anyone is putting their hands down their trousers and having a little rummage at the thought of that drive. I agree Hamilton was faster, but as mentioned above no one is calling Maldonado the new Senna are they?
They are commenting (with varying degrees of suprise) that Pastor has actually shown himself to be pretty competent given the right opportunity, not just another pay driver patsy.
There is no point getting so het up about Lewis' misfortune that you get cross that people are talking about how Maldonado did quite well considering - because fact of the matter is he did.
OK Hamilton would probably have won without the penalty. But Maldonado would STILL have done a good job with getting second.
I'm not saying the win wasn't deserved or that he lucked into it.
What gets my goat is the amount of utter tosh and bum lick tendencies that get spouted everytime someone new gets a win.
Maldonardo is a wdc contender, Williams for constructors for fks sake it was one race win.
No doubt he will return to medocracy soon enough and go back to binning it when he has points on the line a la Australia.
What gets my goat is the amount of utter tosh and bum lick tendencies that get spouted everytime someone new gets a win.
Maldonardo is a wdc contender, Williams for constructors for f
ks sake it was one race win.No doubt he will return to medocracy soon enough and go back to binning it when he has points on the line a la Australia.
TheHeretic said:
doogz said:
This thread is hilarious. The guy outqualified his team mate by a mile, was second fastest in qualifying, drove an absolutely cracking race, but it was all just luck?
Yes... Is that not clear? 
Some folks don't like to give credit where credit is due.
Put it this way. Had Maldonado driven a "Cadillac" Ferrari and win 2 races as Gilles Villeneuve had done in 1981? Or how about Senna's Toleman or Lotus?
To be honest I was all in favor of banning him after his swerve into Hamilton at Spa, he certainly would have been out if it were my team he was driving for.
Still can't quite believe how lightly he got off from that.
As for the win, well he drove a good race, but I somehow doubt hes going to be a title contender at any point in the future.
Still can't quite believe how lightly he got off from that.
As for the win, well he drove a good race, but I somehow doubt hes going to be a title contender at any point in the future.
FisiP1 said:
FeelingLucky said:
I'm really not sure where you got this from, Hamiltons race pace on Sunday was lamentable, as it has been all year.
He was on a 2 stop you numpty.And the rest of the year?
entropy said:
TheHeretic said:
doogz said:
This thread is hilarious. The guy outqualified his team mate by a mile, was second fastest in qualifying, drove an absolutely cracking race, but it was all just luck?
Yes... Is that not clear? Some folks don't like to give credit where credit is due.
Put it this way. Had Maldonado driven a "Cadillac" Ferrari and win 2 races as Gilles Villeneuve had done in 1981? Or how about Senna's Toleman or Lotus?
FeelingLucky said:
Thanks for the insight Jamie, he was nearly lapped!! Not good for "the fastest man on the cct"
And the rest of the year?
Yes he was clearly terrible. Last to 8th...And the rest of the year?
Strong drive I thought, generally fun to watch Lewis come through the field.
Last to 16th would have been bad...
I don't like Maldonado for aforementioned thuggish tendencies, I wonder if the big teams have the same attitude towards him? I wouldn't want him driving for my team... If that's the case then how will he build himself into a multiple race/championship winning driver?
He drove a blinder on Sunday and I must admit that he's pretty much disproved my belief that he is just a pay driver and nothing more.
He drove a blinder on Sunday and I must admit that he's pretty much disproved my belief that he is just a pay driver and nothing more.
HustleRussell said:
I don't like Maldonado for aforementioned thuggish tendencies, I wonder if the big teams have the same attitude towards him? I wouldn't want him driving for my team... If that's the case then how will he build himself into a multiple race/championship winning driver?
He drove a blinder on Sunday and I must admit that he's pretty much disproved my belief that he is just a pay driver and nothing more.
He'd need to get a consistent set of podium finishes and a team principal willing to take a chance. Even then it could be a few years before it happens and the money could be running out by then.He drove a blinder on Sunday and I must admit that he's pretty much disproved my belief that he is just a pay driver and nothing more.
telecat said:
He'd need to get a consistent set of podium finishes and a team principal willing to take a chance. Even then it could be a few years before it happens and the money could be running out by then.
If PDVSA turn out to be allowed to fund Pastor again and Frank does his magic with the Qatari investors, Williams could well be a team worth being in.The real question is, was this race just a flash in the pan, or will the Williams be able to challenge for race wins again this season.
Monaco next, Mal and Sen go well there, Williams seem to go well at Singapore and Brazil.
The williams car was without equal in the last sector at the last Gp which is all slow corners dominated by traction and good low speed aero grip. That car will win again this year. Barcelona is widely accepted as the circuit which defines a car - fast there, fast everywhere. Has it not occurred to anyone that williams might have made a massive step forwards in the Mugello test.
my 2p
my 2p
clarkee200 said:
The williams car was without equal in the last sector at the last Gp which is all slow corners dominated by traction and good low speed aero grip. That car will win again this year. Barcelona is widely accepted as the circuit which defines a car - fast there, fast everywhere. Has it not occurred to anyone that williams might have made a massive step forwards in the Mugello test.
my 2p
They were not far of winning at Aus. Right up behind the leader on the last lap. Just the driver failure there. So I don't think they have made a massive jump at the test. I think the car is a good one and was from the off. A match for the Merc I'd say. A bit behind the McLaren which still seems to be the top car.my 2p
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