Red Bull declared illegal.....

Red Bull declared illegal.....

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TerzoNeil

335 posts

203 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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HustleRussell said:
That's funny laugh
you got a problem.....................

basically they won by gaining an advantage

pingu393

7,774 posts

205 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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I suspect there is a little bit of ar$e covering going on.

FIA scrutineers passed an illegal car for several races, including Monaco.

The other teams spotted the illegality and told the FIA.

FIA and all the teams agreed that the best result for everybody would be to allow the most prestigious race in F1 to proceed with the understanding the car would be modified by the next race.

Can you imagine the embarassment if RB (with their massive corporate presence at Monaco) had been disqualified before the race?

If they were disqualified after the race they would have appealed that they were legal on Thursday, what's changed?

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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pingu393 said:
I suspect there is a little bit of ar$e covering going on.

FIA scrutineers passed an illegal car for several races, including Monaco.

The other teams spotted the illegality and told the FIA.

FIA and all the teams agreed that the best result for everybody would be to allow the most prestigious race in F1 to proceed with the understanding the car would be modified by the next race.

Can you imagine the embarassment if RB (with their massive corporate presence at Monaco) had been disqualified before the race?

If they were disqualified after the race they would have appealed that they were legal on Thursday, what's changed?
Read what Joe Saward has to say on the matter: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/the-red-...

HustleRussell

24,632 posts

160 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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TerzoNeil said:
HustleRussell said:
That's funny laugh
you got a problem.....................

basically they won by gaining an advantage
No, you 'got a problem'... Specifically, reading the other two pages of this thread where the question you have raised has already been discussed at length.

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

188 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Well said.

tonytifoso

1,384 posts

223 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Bedazzled said:
ideally they should mandate exhausts exiting behind the diffuser and rear wing.
Amen to that......


Although bets on who would introduce a sodding great Brabham-type KERS battery powered fan blowing the diffuser/wing(If Mr Newey is reading this my patent is available for a modest sum!) wink

NHK244V

3,358 posts

172 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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TerzoNeil said:
RB should have been punished for winning with an illegal car
No they didn't..................
It was leagal when they won, now it isn't, simples........................

pingu393

7,774 posts

205 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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NHK244V said:
TerzoNeil said:
RB should have been punished for winning with an illegal car
No they didn't..................
It was leagal when they won, now it isn't, simples........................
Unless something has changed very recently (last 24 hours), as I understand it, the RB is still legal as it has passed scrutineering everytime it has been presented to the FIA stewards. FIA technical have "had words" with the FIA stewards and it will not be passed next time.

RB have a decision to make. Do they present a car they know will fail scrutineering, or do they modify the hole into a slot and pass scrutineering?

For the sake of everybody in F1, I reckon there will be a modified RB on the grid next GP, rather than an unmodified one in the garage.