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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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Hi guys. Forgive me if there is a thread for this, tried searching for one but results are swamped with everything for the main Le Mans event.
Is anyone taking part in the Le Mans 24h Karting race on 30 June - 1 July? I've been roped into it, with my recently broken hand from an Endurance event in Wales.
Tips/Tricks? Should be fun.
Got a 11:50am Eurotunnel booking for the Friday.
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drakart
1,095 posts
79 months
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There are a few on here doing it this year. I am sure Stuart McKay will be commenting soon. I am not there this year but have done it a few times. Top tips: Relax 2 hr stints only. If you do less time, you will not have a chance. Join in with the camping fun, meet other teams. Get out from the campsite and eat with your team in a local restaurant at least once.(The yellow restaurant on the Mulsanne is rather good) Drink lots of water. Stay up and help your team for the whole race. Always have someone ready to go 2hrs before their stint. Anything could and does happen - be prepared. Plan the stints beforehand. There are of course more tips, but I don't want you to beat any of our teams! 
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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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Interesting.... and yeah, sorry, probably should have posted this in the Le Mans section. Silly me. I'm a 104kg 6'6" lanky dude....so while I think I'm handy behind a wheel, I'm slow cause I weigh a lot, so feel free to pour out all your knowledge  Why you say 2 hour stints? We were thinking 1 hour stints. We found ourselves to be pretty knackered during a 1 hour club 100.
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kartman24
343 posts
120 months
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Every pitstop is half a lap lost, run the kart till it is getting low on fuel then you are not wasting time and track position in the pits otherwise you will finish nowhere........... One hour behind the wheel is light weight stuff,(man up as the Snickers add says)when our team finished 3rd in the owner/drivers 24 hour there i drove the last 5 hours and for the last round of the Milton Keynes Thunder Kart championship i drove the whole 6 hours (and won). It was raining heavily thouhout the race and i was in the groove, or more probably something to do with the other 2 drivers not wanting to get soaked!............Martin (Pistonbroke racing)
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drakart
1,095 posts
79 months
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Killboy said: Interesting.... and yeah, sorry, probably should have posted this in the Le Mans section. Silly me. I'm a 104kg 6'6" lanky dude....so while I think I'm handy behind a wheel, I'm slow cause I weigh a lot, so feel free to pour out all your knowledge  Why you say 2 hour stints? We were thinking 1 hour stints. We found ourselves to be pretty knackered during a 1 hour club 100. You need to minimise pit stops so you have to go until it's nearly dry. These are 4 strokes and not as fast as Club 100. You should all be fine. Avoid the flat saw tooth kerbs if you want to save your hands. The chicane at the end of the start/finish is easy flat every day of the week. DO NOT LIFT as you will be hit from behind. Take pit boards or white boards and lots of marker pens. Take some tape and an umbrella to attach to the pit wall. Take some thick pipe insulation to put over the top of the pit wall - it's really pointed and sharp and annoys you after a while! Battles are great but don't waste time defending your position. Try and drive in convoy with your team and avoid the boring motorway. The Route National is more scenic. Take some flip flops for the showers and don't touch the walls unless you like mouldy hands!
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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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Thanks guys! This is some good info. Yeah, I've ridden the procarts before (only once), much less strain than the two stroke madness. You right, we should be fine for long stints, and I'll stock up on pain killers for my wrist.
Would you recommend the padding/armor?
And would you bother with visor tear-offs? The rain race we had at Rye House ensured my visor was pretty much useless half way through the race. Just wondering what the best water strategy is. Also, camelbak recommended? Some of these are really silly questions, but this is our first time at an endurance Karting event.
Feel free to join us for a beer
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Reardy Mister
11,041 posts
91 months
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Where can I get more info on this? Googling is turning up private pages for the event and a page for the Circuit du Alain Prost that is only in French.
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drakart
1,095 posts
79 months
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A rib protector would be a good idea and possibly knee pads for the inside of your knees. I am tall too and normally bruise my knees although I don't wear pads.
It never rains! it's normally very very hot. Take plenty of suncream and try not to bask in the sun as it will make you tired for the "graveyard" shifts!
You can't carry water, just make sure you keep drinking all the time but don't down two litres just before your stint or you will have a painful stint trying not to wet yourself!! make sure you eat plenty of food. It's easy not to eat when it's hot but you need plenty of energy to turn those front wheels!
more information on the 24hr races on Teesside karting's website.
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StuartMcKay
1,117 posts
91 months
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I'd say you'd be best doing 15 mins stints and watch out for the 2hr break around halfway through as they they don't tell you about it during the race but hit you with a 190 lap penalty if you miss it.......... I'd like to thank Drakart for giving most of the secrets to racing in a 24hr race. He's still pissed that he can't make it so wants to spoil it for me.  All joking aside, come and say hi. My team name is RDI Elite and i'll be wearing a white alpinestars suit with a Race Drivers Inc logo on the back. Although when I'm off track I might be asleep as I don't land at LM until around 6am Saturday as I have a friends wedding to attend on the Friday.
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Alistair1990
91 posts
47 months
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I'm going and it'll be my fourth year. Bone dry and boiling every time so far, but year before I started it was wet, so bring the sun cream but remember that the odd thunderstorm can crop up. Most tips have been coved above and I'd agree that two hour stints are a must, the pit lane is huge and you lose way too much time pitting more often than that. New for this year is the need for lighter drivers (below 80kg) to carry lead. Before, there was an inaccurate system of deducting laps from light teams. At least now it's fair, in my opinion, but means light drivers like myself have to carry loads of lead - if anyone on your team needs it make sure they have plenty to account for weight loss from sweat. I've linked to a video below which was shot by the guy who started third in the rental class last year. I'm ahead on pole in the white suit. The video gives you a good idea of lines to take and the speed difference between rental karts and the owner karts. And yes, I looked behind WAY too much when the quick guys came through! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxaXNTP0khM&fea...There's three teams going with me this year - KOKS Racing from Kingston Uni - and we'll all have blue polo shirts on at some point, so come say hi if you like, we'll be doing a track walk on the Thursday evening. Enjoy it!
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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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Cool, thanks. I'm in one of the Posche Worx teams.
Is there practice time before?
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Alistair1990
91 posts
47 months
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Yeah there is a practice session. They moved the times last year and I'm not organising this year so I don't have the exact times, but there is some time on the Friday morning to practice. I believe that session is with just the hire karts on track, then qualifying is with everyone on at once (I think, I'm sure someone here knows better).
The track isn't a difficult one to learn, just as said above the first chicane and right-hander onto the (huge) back straight is all flat, and keep off the curbs! Keep out of the gravel too (loads stack it at the last corner), and that can easily shear the sprocket, which is a lengthy repair (all done by the Teesside staff).
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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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Think we'll be changing the Ferry booking.
Confirmed: Practice is Friday 14:00 - 16:00. All Drivers must complete a minimum of 3 laps.
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drakart
1,095 posts
79 months
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Killboy said: Think we'll be changing the Ferry booking.
Confirmed: Practice is Friday 14:00 - 16:00. All Drivers must complete a minimum of 3 laps.
Thursday night is always good as the locals use the straight bit of road next to the circuit as a drag strip. Expect a police helicopter and a powerful searchlight!
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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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drakart said: Thursday night is always good as the locals use the straight bit of road next to the circuit as a drag strip. Expect a police helicopter and a powerful searchlight! He he. Opportunity to finally test DSG Launch Control. But call me paranoid, but I'm not comfortable in a Police Search light - must be a South African thing.  Is everyone ultra serious, or are the people doing it for fun?
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drakart
1,095 posts
79 months
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It's a healthy mix of both but it's a long way to go without wanting to do well!
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Alistair1990
91 posts
47 months
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Ah I'd forgotten about that! It seems to be that local bikers all meet up on the Thursday night - not related to Le Mans - to show off in a carpark near the campsite. It's mainly just a gathering and has become much more tame in recent years, as there was a police helicopter two years ago. Still get a few guys revving the nuts off their bikes and a couple of races up and down the very quiet road there.
Don't forget to drive around the public road sections of the Le Sarthe circuit while you're in town and head to the Le Mans museum if you haven't been before. Worth doing on Friday morning after signing on.
Edit to add; we're taking two competitive teams of six made up of newly graduated students and some older guys such as myself, and a team of 12 who still have another year or two at uni and are doing Le Mans for fun and experience more than to be competitive.
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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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Okay, I'll be the tallest guy in the pits in a smurf blue AplineStars outfit. Got a 5:40am Eurotunnel booking on Friday, and nearly everything packed and ready to go. Ultra prepared.  Oh, and whoever gave the "boss" a call, try again, I meant my proxy mate in all this. 
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24hourman
2 posts
47 months
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I will not be there this year however I have a pretty good idea on what it takes to win at Le Mans. Tips I would give are.
Leave the ego at home work as a team
Keep off the kerbs to protect the kart the race is so competitive If you have to repair anything you will not win.
Dont lose time overtaking or battling faster drivers or karts.
Dont queue in the pits for fuel, plan when you come in.
Run to the fuel
A three man team is normally the best format
Make sure each driver is comfortable in the kart and padded on the knees and elbows wear a ribtec or similar
Fit an alpano or similar if possible
Use the practice session to learn the track and build your speed
If you are in the hires that is who you are racing dont worry about the owners but dont lose time in letting them pass
Dont go off the track or spin
Have fun but be serious in your efforts
Equipe vitesse #24
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Killboy
Original Poster
620 posts
71 months
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Thanks. What is an alpano?
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