F1 TV Coverage Survey

[robmlufc]

Love that Sky seem to have Herbert on board full time now!

[TheHeretic]

robmlufc said:

Love that Sky seem to have Herbert on board full time now!

Thought Herbert did far better than Hill.

[Teppic]

Survey done.

When they have the live races I watch the build up on the BBC, flick over to Sky for Martin's grid walk (no-one can do it better at the moment, although DC is getting there), back to the BBC for a bit and then back to Sky once the F1 graphics appear.

I have only watched the BBC coverage exclusively once this year, and that was when I was on holiday with no access to Sky Sports/Sky Go.

[Don Veloci]

shunaphil said:

(Vettel in particular has a soft spot for Lee Mckenzie)

He really does with the flirty nature coming across in the BBC forum interview.

I watched the British GP on Sky but specifically caught up with the BBC Forum on iplayer.
The short period before all the stage show stuff showed a great rapport between DC and Lee and they seemed to get more relaxed and less formal interviews with anyone they captured, especially Vettel.

The BBC team and production seem to have a warmer and less formal feel that I enjoy, especially in the forum. The banter between the team is usually good as are most interviews.

[scubadude]

In all honesty- they show the Same races so I just went with Sky as Brundle is a better commentator, I have listened to the Beeb and find its not as good, that said SHOUTY (aka Crofty) is F**king awful too.

I am watching less and less of the pre and post show on either supplier as both are not as good as previous years beeb coverage IMO.

So, for content and continuity I watch SKY and don't feel bad because the beeb did this to themselves, they could have kept F1 and not shown dross like The Voice so they know where the fault lies...

I notice Sky are putting their prices up in August and I suspect strongly that SKY F1 HD won't be free for long but since I have a dish now I'll just realign to RTL or something, unless every single race is shown in full and live its not "coverage" IMO and the beebs half arsed attempt this year is stupid, I don't understand why they just didn't save more money and show a commentary only highlights show for each race and let SKY do the live thing? (Maybe they will from next year when EJ and DC's contracts are up)

[Peacockantony]

Crafty_ said:

Why remain loyal to the BBC ? They sold F1 coverage down the river in a big rush and were incredibly arrogant about it when there was an outcry from fans. They deserve nothing.

From what I've seen of coverage this year they are trying to turn it in to a "top gear" style of program. Arseing about, mickey taking, some idiot wittering on about some irrelevancy or other and a smug git gurning in to the camera. If I want to watch arseing about its very easy to find elsewhere, I want to see racing, features, interviews etc.

Sky all the way, its not perfect but I think they are improving with every race and are listening to fans and making changes based on feedback.

I remain loyal to the BBC because they did not sell us down the river. They were forced into this by the government (with a sizeable push from the Murdochs too, we all know what their relationship with the government is like), they are being forced into funding an extra channel, S4C, and will receive no extra money to do this, so some things had to go.
So no I do not blame the BBC one bit, just the posh tw@ government and the Murdochs.

Chrisgr31 said:

I was thinking this weekend that the BBC coverage was turning more Top Gearish, and to be honest its great for it. The reality is the dedicated fan base who want pure F1 is very small and they have probably shelled out and gone to Sky. Therefore the BBC are aiming to enertain and show the race and it works really well.

Personally I'd consider myself a fan but not enough of one to justify spending £360 to watch half the races, and therefore I dont have Sky. However I have really liked the BBC coverage this year even the highlights. Suspect my wifes liked it as well as I have spent less time sitting in front of the telly!

Yes Sky F1 offers a lot of additional content but I just dont have the time to watch it, so its no contest for me.

To be honest I like the BBC style of programming. It is entertaining. I have tried to watch the $ky $ports crap, but I just got bored. The constant ad breaks during the programming only making it worse. I have never watched the build-up programming from start to finish, it is just too f-ing dull.
I am a massive fan, have been for a few years, and even I couldn't justify shelling out all that money just for F1 (that amount will go up, when you have to have $ky $ports pack to get the channel).

[S0 What]

Not perfect but i filled it out.
Absolutly loving the sky coveradge, i watch every old race they show at least 3 times but then i watch the full race 3 or 4 times and then the replay on the beeb just to keep in touch with my homey DC
i only miss him and Jake and appart from lazyB and that awfull makeup splatterd georgie i love everything sky has done (appart from making me pay for it OBV! ).
Love crofty allways have, you just have to watch the last 5 years britich GP replays with Allen (ok i thought) Legtard (so god dam awfull even my kids wont watch a race with him on comms cos my moaning at every fooking daft thing and mistake he says wind them up lol) and DC amd MB although DC was rather wooden last year so IMHO Crofty is a step up from all of them.
You lot are just a bunch of whinning tosspots who on the whole are never happy, a british foible i beleive sumink to do with the wether and not getting enough off the missus

Edited by S0 What on Wednesday 11th July 19:31

[Peacockantony]

scubadude said:

In all honesty- they show the Same races so I just went with Sky as Brundle is a better commentator, I have listened to the Beeb and find its not as good, that said SHOUTY (aka Crofty) is F**king awful too.

I am watching less and less of the pre and post show on either supplier as both are not as good as previous years beeb coverage IMO.

So, for content and continuity I watch SKY and don't feel bad because the beeb did this to themselves, they could have kept F1 and not shown dross like The Voice so they know where the fault lies...

I notice Sky are putting their prices up in August and I suspect strongly that SKY F1 HD won't be free for long but since I have a dish now I'll just realign to RTL or something, unless every single race is shown in full and live its not "coverage" IMO and the beebs half arsed attempt this year is stupid, I don't understand why they just didn't save more money and show a commentary only highlights show for each race and let SKY do the live thing? (Maybe they will from next year when EJ and DC's contracts are up)

No they didn't, they were forced into this by the government.
People may like to claim this to try and make the BBC look bad, but they had no choice.

Gaz. said:

I've filled out the survey but imo it is a flawed exerciseI've filled out the survey but imo it is a flawed exercise, if you read some the posts on here and elsewhere some of the more vocal axe-grinders haven't changed their opinion one inch since this TV deal was announced last August and there is no way the surveyors can tell who is a genuine Sky customer and who has never seen a single show but offered their opinion anyway (perhaps the uniform 0-stars may give it away).

Back to the show. Herbert has been the find of the year imo, just brilliant and I was surprised how comfortable McNish is when working to the camera on his own without a presenter/Crofty or Ted. I wasn't sure about Hill at first as he was a rabbit in the headlights and trying to hard to sound unbiased in Australia but he seems to have found his feet and shone for a moment when he and Herbert had a Q&A amongst themselves at one of the races (poss Monaco).

I'm glad Kravitz has been given more air time and that they moved TK#s notebook from online to the end of the main show. Lazemby however simply does not look or sound comfortable presenting on the hoof live shows, on the pre recorded stuff he is ok and seems willing to get stuck in with features like the pit stop challenge or the donut challenge (which sounds like Pinky rinsed everyone with a one handed donut btw).

I just cannot see BSkyB charging for F1 in 2013 or moving it under the proper SS stable as it would conflict with them trying to win hearts and minds and be accepted amongst the wider F1 British fandom, the chants of "BBC! BBC!" at Silverstone just demonstrates that they have a long way to go yet in this respect.

I can, the only reason it was made available without having the get the full $ky $ports pack is because they realised (or rather got it firmly shouted at them) during the mass backlash when they deal that was announced that F1 fans weren't willing to pay for the full $ky $ports pack just for the F1. Now that they have got customers to fork out for Sky, they will just play the "it only costs a bit more a month", and probably chuck in 3 month half price deal too.
Sky are only after one thing, money, they don't care about the viewing figures or what the fans want, they are only after money, that is the reason that the have adverts in the practice sessions, even though we made it very clear that we wanted no adverts at all.

[Chrisgr31]

Crafty_ said:

Quite sad to think people enjoy the coverage being dumbed down :|

Personally I think its pretty sad its ending up that way. I didn't watch half the forums last year because they were more interesting in arguing, taking the mickey out of EJ or generally sodding about. Maybe they can just fill a Sunday afternoon with that and not bother with all this silly racing stuff. Least they wont have to pay Bernie then.

The viewing figures though would appear to indicate that viewers like the BBCs approach and if that means it stays on the BBC as it is then thats great.

As regards the survey it has now been completed. I did get towards the end and wonder if it was sponsored by Sky when I found the question "If you had to pay for Sky F1 how much would you pay?" I assume everyone will say £0 as otherwise you're a turkey voting for Christmas!

[theshrew]

Ive not watched any of the Sky races but i did see a couple of the programs when the channel first went live and you could get it for free. Seemed pretty good. However i refuse to pay for it when i can watch it for free. The thing i do like is always something on that chanel not enought to temp me. Wonder what it will be like when the season ends ?

As for the BBC Ben Edwards really does do my head in. EJ talks some rubbish at times but i like the way he just says what he thinks. I dont think the program is as good as last year but still pretty good.

[oobster]

Survey completed. I haven't missed an F1 race for over 5 years (on the telly) and used to love the BBC coverage. However, I haven't watched ANY of the BBC coverage this year as I find the Sky coverage roughly comparable quality-wise. The only criticism of Sky is the anchor guy they use - Simon something - for next year I think Sky should try to poach Jake from the BBC.

Can't stand EJ so not missing his input, Martin + Ted are both good, can't really see the point of the blonde (Georgie?) standing asking Alan or Anthony daft questions.

[944fan]

I watch Sky coverage of the race mostly because they have 5.1 surround and the BBC don't, but I watch the BBC pre race. I think each channel has its plus and minuses.

I prefer Jake, Eddie, and DC to Simon and Herbet. Lee Mackenzie is better than Natalie (and better looking). Georgie Thompson is fking annoying, she just seems to be there to ask stupid questions, she should go, and take the fking sky pad with her. Lumsden Bumhat gets a better look in on Sky now, that should continue.

Basically if Sky can get Jake, Eddie, and DC as anchors, loose the sky pad and georgie and replace natalie with lee it will be perfect

The most annoying thing about the BBC (apart from the fact you can only watch 10 races) is the constraints of having it on a mainstream channel. I missed most of Canada last year because it swtiched to BBC2 and Sky+ didn't record.

[IainT]

Filled in 100% truthfully. Won't please the BBC fanboys though

[IainT]

TheHeretic said:

robmlufc said:

Love that Sky seem to have Herbert on board full time now!

Thought Herbert did far better than Hill.

Indeed - he's doing a decent job without being too much of an Ejiot.

[Jasandjules]

I would love a combination of the BBC and Sky Coverage.

I love DC and MB chattering away and taking the p**s out of everything. I love the fact that Sky has a dedicated channel with two hours before a race and the full quali and even the free practice sessions. If they could merge the two it would be perfection IMHO.

[TheHeretic]

Jasandjules said:

I would love a combination of the BBC and Sky Coverage.

I love DC and MB chattering away and taking the p**s out of everything. I love the fact that Sky has a dedicated channel with two hours before a race and the full quali and even the free practice sessions. If they could merge the two it would be perfection IMHO.

Absolutely agree. Both have their pros and cons.

[Crafty_]

peacockantony said:

I remain loyal to the BBC because they did not sell us down the river. They were forced into this by the government (with a sizeable push from the Murdochs too, we all know what their relationship with the government is like), they are being forced into funding an extra channel, S4C, and will receive no extra money to do this, so some things had to go.
So no I do not blame the BBC one bit, just the posh tw@ government and the Murdochs.

So it was a government conspiracy was it ?

I suppose the Government forced them in to spending £22m just on the rights for "The Voice" as well ? (which flopped to the point that a 2nd series was iffy).

Or the billion pound move to Salford ?

Or paying millions of pounds redundancy to a select few people they got rid of ?

Or are you just making up crap again?

Far as the "posh government" thing goes, I think you'll find the funding changes were imposed by Labour, not the current administration.

[Bolognese]

Done, slated sky a bit as I prefer BBC coverage

[Monty Zoomer]

944fan said:

I missed most of Canada last year because it swtiched to BBC2 and Sky+ didn't record.

It was fabulous, it really was magnificent.

It was the best race I've ever seen.

You can watch it on the BBC website for about a week afterwards, but it's too late now.

Words cannot describe how good it was....

[TheHeretic]

Bolognese said:

Done, slated sky a bit as I prefer BBC coverage

Surely you should slate them with reason, not just because you prefer the BBC?