Clerk of the Course

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Jasper Gilder

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2,166 posts

274 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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BRSCC have launched a recruitment drive to find potential Clerks of the Course. Full details on the BRSCC website.

h5lrw

90 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Hopefully the assessment will include an eye-sight test.

37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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h5lrw said:
Hopefully the assessment will include an eye-sight test.
i know a lot of racers that need those too

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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37chevy said:
h5lrw said:
Hopefully the assessment will include an eye-sight test.
i know a lot of racers that need those too
think you might find that it's mandatory for racers, not sure the same can be said for officials?

andygo

6,813 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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As long as they have a nice blazer they will be in.

eps

6,297 posts

270 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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andygo said:
As long as they have a nice blazer they will be in.
and the right tie!

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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You could not pay me enough to want to take that job on.


covboy

2,577 posts

175 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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h5lrw said:
Hopefully the assessment will include an eye-sight test.
They don't need an eye sight test.

Just a thick skin and a nose for bullst they get from some competitors

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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One of the “If I ruled the World” actions I would take is to make the instillation of in-car cameras a requirement in every series. The cost these days is less than a set of tyres (hell half a tyre for some) and would assist many CotC’s when they have 2 driver reports and one observer report where the only common facts are the names on the pages (and even then this can be different!)

“Sorry sir, we forgot to turn the camera on” or “Sorry about the Vaseline on the lens” would result in 3 points and removal from the results if caught, a minimum of one camera being checked per round at random.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Rude-boy said:
One of the “If I ruled the World” actions I would take is to make the instillation of in-car cameras a requirement in every series. The cost these days is less than a set of tyres (hell half a tyre for some) and would assist many CotC’s when they have 2 driver reports and one observer report where the only common facts are the names on the pages (and even then this can be different!)

“Sorry sir, we forgot to turn the camera on” or “Sorry about the Vaseline on the lens” would result in 3 points and removal from the results if caught, a minimum of one camera being checked per round at random.
that's not such a stupid idea.....

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Scuffers said:
37chevy said:
h5lrw said:
Hopefully the assessment will include an eye-sight test.
i know a lot of racers that need those too
think you might find that it's mandatory for racers, not sure the same can be said for officials?
Not every year it isn't. IIRC you can get your licence at 16 and then don't need another medical for 29 years.

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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I would be pleased to apply, and look forward to progressing up the ranks rapidly where I can be CofC at a BTCC meeting. It'll be a quiet meeting with probably on three or four cars on the second grid after I've banned/suspended the rest of the field for driving like complete arses.

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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I thought about applying for it.

Then i thought about getting liability insurAnce for myself.

It's got to be a thanks task.

Scuffers' idea is spot on though. Go-Pros are about £120 now. Much cheaper than a tyre.

BMR

944 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Scuffers said:
Rude-boy said:
One of the “If I ruled the World” actions I would take is to make the instillation of in-car cameras a requirement in every series. The cost these days is less than a set of tyres (hell half a tyre for some) and would assist many CotC’s when they have 2 driver reports and one observer report where the only common facts are the names on the pages (and even then this can be different!)

“Sorry sir, we forgot to turn the camera on” or “Sorry about the Vaseline on the lens” would result in 3 points and removal from the results if caught, a minimum of one camera being checked per round at random.
that's not such a stupid idea.....
Some champs already do this. BRSCC Fiestas must run a GoPro camera..

andye30m3

3,454 posts

255 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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BMR said:
Scuffers said:
Rude-boy said:
One of the “If I ruled the World” actions I would take is to make the instillation of in-car cameras a requirement in every series. The cost these days is less than a set of tyres (hell half a tyre for some) and would assist many CotC’s when they have 2 driver reports and one observer report where the only common facts are the names on the pages (and even then this can be different!)

“Sorry sir, we forgot to turn the camera on” or “Sorry about the Vaseline on the lens” would result in 3 points and removal from the results if caught, a minimum of one camera being checked per round at random.
that's not such a stupid idea.....
Some champs already do this. BRSCC Fiestas must run a GoPro camera..
The production BMW championship also run cameras to assist in apportioning blame post any contact and improving driving standards.

They also run a yellow and red card system which can ultimately result in possible race bans.

onomatopoeia

3,472 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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Life Saab Itch said:
I thought about applying for it.

Then i thought about getting liability insurAnce for myself.

It's got to be a thanks task.
Officials are covered on the MSA's insurance that comes with the permit. You just have to sign on at the start of the day to get covered.

I haven't renewed my Clerk's licence as I don't own a blazer don't like them publishing my telephone numbers and email addresses on their website (you have to sign that you agree to this on the application / renewal form). When it was just in the blue book I'd delay sending in the renewal form until after the book was published, but can't do that now. I had a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment when I was doing entries secretary for an event, my work telephone number was deliberately not in the SRs and people that knew I held a clerks licence from me clerking there in the past got my work number from the MSA and called me at work to argue about not getting entries when we were oversubscribed.

Being unable to get a satisfactory answer or action out of the permenant staff at the MSA, I gave up the licence.

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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onomatopoeia said:
Officials are covered on the MSA's insurance that comes with the permit. You just have to sign on at the start of the day to get covered.

I haven't renewed my Clerk's licence as I don't own a blazer don't like them publishing my telephone numbers and email addresses on their website (you have to sign that you agree to this on the application / renewal form). When it was just in the blue book I'd delay sending in the renewal form until after the book was published, but can't do that now. I had a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment when I was doing entries secretary for an event, my work telephone number was deliberately not in the SRs and people that knew I held a clerks licence from me clerking there in the past got my work number from the MSA and called me at work to argue about not getting entries when we were oversubscribed.

Being unable to get a satisfactory answer or action out of the permenant staff at the MSA, I gave up the licence.
separate email address and a cheap pay as you go moby might solve that one :-)


as an aside I've always found every coc I've had to deal with as both a competitor and race organiser very helpfull, it doe make it easier having a tame one living across the road from me <LOL>

Porlock

386 posts

214 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Ah so does that mean you know which way up to hold the Phone now then??? Ha Ha

I always hold off submitting my Clerks Licence application until March as the money is better in my bank for the 7 months prior to me needing it for an event.

I have had the same issues regarding competitors and over subscribed events. I once had one turn up at work when I was dealing with some influential clients, he started swearing and I told him to leave. He then sent a 5 page letter of complaint to the MSA about me, I think the fact he spelt my name 3 different ways, helped my case. The MSA were very supportive of my actions.

Although I dont do races, I do enjoy the Speed events and Rallies that I am involved in Clerking. I would say speak to a Clerk and ask if you can shadow them, you will find it quite enlightening.


onomatopoeia said:
Officials are covered on the MSA's insurance that comes with the permit. You just have to sign on at the start of the day to get covered.

I haven't renewed my Clerk's licence as I don't own a blazer don't like them publishing my telephone numbers and email addresses on their website (you have to sign that you agree to this on the application / renewal form). When it was just in the blue book I'd delay sending in the renewal form until after the book was published, but can't do that now. I had a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment when I was doing entries secretary for an event, my work telephone number was deliberately not in the SRs and people that knew I held a clerks licence from me clerking there in the past got my work number from the MSA and called me at work to argue about not getting entries when we were oversubscribed.

Being unable to get a satisfactory answer or action out of the permenant staff at the MSA, I gave up the licence.

Porlock

386 posts

214 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Ah so does that mean you know which way up to hold the Phone now then??? Ha Ha

I always hold off submitting my Clerks Licence application until March as the money is better in my bank for the 7 months prior to me needing it for an event.

I have had the same issues regarding competitors and over subscribed events. I once had one turn up at work when I was dealing with some influential clients, he started swearing and I told him to leave. He then sent a 5 page letter of complaint to the MSA about me, I think the fact he spelt my name 3 different ways, helped my case. The MSA were very supportive of my actions.

Although I dont do races, I do enjoy the Speed events and Rallies that I am involved in Clerking. I would say speak to a Clerk and ask if you can shadow them, you will find it quite enlightening.


onomatopoeia said:
Officials are covered on the MSA's insurance that comes with the permit. You just have to sign on at the start of the day to get covered.

I haven't renewed my Clerk's licence as I don't own a blazer don't like them publishing my telephone numbers and email addresses on their website (you have to sign that you agree to this on the application / renewal form). When it was just in the blue book I'd delay sending in the renewal form until after the book was published, but can't do that now. I had a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment when I was doing entries secretary for an event, my work telephone number was deliberately not in the SRs and people that knew I held a clerks licence from me clerking there in the past got my work number from the MSA and called me at work to argue about not getting entries when we were oversubscribed.

Being unable to get a satisfactory answer or action out of the permenant staff at the MSA, I gave up the licence.

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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[quote=Porlock
I have had the same issues regarding competitors and over subscribed events. I once had one turn up at work when I was dealing with some influential clients, he started swearing

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That is shocking I cant imagine even thinking of doing anything like that I hope the twonk had his licence suspended!