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Crafty_
4,511 posts
69 months
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So far this weekend:
Michael lost DRS yesterday. They repaired it but KERS failed on his car this morning.
Rosberg had some DRS issues yesterday and again today.
They have just over half the constructor points that McLaren have.
Schumacher has retired from 50% of the races he's entered and between him and Nico they have 3 podium positions.
And some people think it could be a good move ? seriously ?
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MSTRBKR
4,904 posts
67 months
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Exactly. This is my prediction. He signs a 1 year deal with McLaren with a pay cut while he waits for a Lotus or Red Bull seat for 2014.
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Bedazzled
4,042 posts
90 months
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After all this hype I'll be disappointed if Lewis doesn't go now, much as I enjoy his driving I'd like the McLaren seat to be occupied by someone who actually enjoys getting a pole position, and acts like they want to be there. The more I think about his posting telemetry on twitter to massage his ego, the more idiotic it seems.
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Jasandjules
45,368 posts
98 months
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Well, whilst he lets his driving do the talking I am happy.
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TerzoNeil
139 posts
72 months
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just wish the wee moaning git would leave mclearn and go elsewhere
and get a driver who is 100 percent committed
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Use Psychology
9,789 posts
61 months
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Don't you think that hamiltons behaviour is evidence of he much he wants to win? I.e. he is committed and extremely competitive. Hence the bad moods when he feels, for whatever reason, he hasn't achieved his potential. The reaction is similar whether it's his mistake or the teams.
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Wh00sher
504 posts
87 months
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Use Psychology said: Don't you think that hamiltons behaviour is evidence of he much he wants to win? I.e. he is committed and extremely competitive. Hence the bad moods when he feels, for whatever reason, he hasn't achieved his potential. The reaction is similar whether it's his mistake or the teams. So why did he look so miserable getting Pole today ? He looked like he`d just qualified 10th, not 1st. Very odd. Jenson wasn`t much happier.
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Daz68
1,322 posts
79 months
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Use Psychology said: Don't you think that hamiltons behaviour is evidence of he much he wants to win? I.e. he is committed and extremely competitive. Hence the bad moods when he feels, for whatever reason, he hasn't achieved his potential. The reaction is similar whether it's his mistake or the teams. I don't ever remember a driver posting telemetry about their team though because they were unhappy? He is a fantastic driver with some serious issues.
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Clevers
978 posts
70 months
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Wh00sher said: So why did he look so miserable getting Pole today ? He looked like he`d just qualified 10th, not 1st. Very odd. Jenson wasn`t much happier. I think there is tension because Button's been shooting his mouth off in the press about both the Tweeting and also suggesting Lewis should be shut out of development of next year's car if he is going to leave. Plus I think Lewis is pissed about the choice of set up last week and button getting the better end of that. Lewis is looking for a team where he will get preference and all the team's energies with outrigth nr 1 driver status.
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Alfanatic
5,980 posts
88 months
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Russ T Bolt said: DanDC5 said: The main thing that helped Red Bull and may well help a different team come 2014 is a big rule change. With that everyone is starting from scratch rather than playing chase in a game you can never win. It's where Adrian Newey has always excelled best, he's always the 1st to see the loopholes and capitalise on new rules with his interpretations. I always thought Ross Brawn was the man when it comes to loopholes and exploiting them. This is the very reason why big rule changes favour the big budget teams. They're the ones that can afford the Brawns and Neweys and simulations and research and manpower that can bring high quality new products to market quickly. Stable rules favour the lower budget teams, because they start catching up when the big teams start running up against diminishing returns. That was Ken Tyrrell's view, anyway.
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TheHeretic
67,841 posts
124 months
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Clevers said: I think there is tension because Button's been shooting his mouth off in the press about both the Tweeting and also suggesting Lewis should be shut out of development of next year's car if he is going to leave. Plus I think Lewis is pissed about the choice of set up last week and button getting the better end of that. Lewis is looking for a team where he will get preference and all the team's energies with outrigth nr 1 driver status. Not sure "shooting his mouth off" is quite appropriate.
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Moley RUFC
2,370 posts
58 months
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I agree, he's just commenting on facts that Ashley Cole.....sorry Lewis Hamilton has done
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REALIST123
1,545 posts
22 months
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Clevers said: Wh00sher said: So why did he look so miserable getting Pole today ? He looked like he`d just qualified 10th, not 1st. Very odd. Jenson wasn`t much happier. I think there is tension because Button's been shooting his mouth off in the press about both the Tweeting and also suggesting Lewis should be shut out of development of next year's car if he is going to leave. Plus I think Lewis is pissed about the choice of set up last week and button getting the better end of that. Lewis is looking for a team where he will get preference and all the team's energies with outrigth nr 1 driver status. Hmmmm. Certainly not Button who's been shooting his mouth off......
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Some Gump
4,364 posts
55 months
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Clevers said: I think there is tension because Button's been shooting his mouth off in the press about both the Tweeting and also suggesting Lewis should be shut out of development of next year's car if he is going to leave. Plus I think Lewis is pissed about the choice of set up last week and button getting the better end of that. Lewis is looking for a team where he will get preference and all the team's energies with outrigth nr 1 driver status. The driver chooses his setup - this is the sore in every series worldwide. Even if the team is calling the shots, the driver provides th feedback on which setup changes are based. Jenson made a better call last week, there is no way you can blame the team for that, even if you're a raging fanboy. Jenson has a history of making calls like that, he won a few races by calling a tyre change early, he lost others for the same reason. When he makes a bad call, you can't blame the team. Hamiltons tweeting of the telemetry was appallingly unprofessional, imo button has been quite restrained in his criticism - afterall, it was buttons data that was sent to every competitr on the grid...
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FourWheelDrift
56,415 posts
153 months
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"If" Hamilton leaves McLaren and it's a very big IF, there's a good chance it might be Di Resta replacing him. He's just joined the same sports management partnership that currently manages Jenson. So they will have the ear of McLaren already through Jenson and can talk about Paul if the need arises. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102378
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Use Psychology
9,789 posts
61 months
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it'd be like swapping your lotus for a micra though.
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Moley RUFC
2,370 posts
58 months
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Can't help thinking its already a done deal for Di Resta to replace the footwear producer
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Clevers
978 posts
70 months
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Some Gump said: The driver chooses his setup - this is the sore in every series worldwide. Even if the team is calling the shots, the driver provides th feedback on which setup changes are based. Jenson made a better call last week, there is no way you can blame the team for that, even if you're a raging fanboy.
Jenson has a history of making calls like that, he won a few races by calling a tyre change early, he lost others for the same reason. When he makes a bad call, you can't blame the team. Hamiltons tweeting of the telemetry was appallingly unprofessional, imo button has been quite restrained in his criticism - afterall, it was buttons data that was sent to every competitr on the grid... Absolutely agree with you, no way you can blame the team for the set up choice, I am just trying to make sense Hamilton's demeanour as previously Jenson and Lewis seem to have enjoyed a decent team relationship. Personally, I think Hamilton is 'doin a Rooney' to get the highest price he can for his skills. Given his age, his management company are probably telling him this is the contract where he needs to go for it before he is 30.
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rubystone
7,049 posts
128 months
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FourWheelDrift said: "If" Hamilton leaves McLaren and it's a very big IF, there's a good chance it might be Di Resta replacing him. He's just joined the same sports management partnership that currently manages Jenson. So they will have the ear of McLaren already through Jenson and can talk about Paul if the need arises. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102378That news stuned me. Richard Goddard told me last yesr that he wouldn't manage more than one F1 driver as he felt that if he managed two, one would always feel the other was receiving more attention than he was. Fwiw, i don't believe that Richard has any more influence over Whitmarsh than anyone else. yes, Martin clearly likes Richard and his approach, but at the end of the day, it's a hard headed business decision, not on the basis of being best buddies.
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deadslow
3,183 posts
92 months
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Clevers said: Wh00sher said: So why did he look so miserable getting Pole today ? He looked like he`d just qualified 10th, not 1st. Very odd. Jenson wasn`t much happier. I think there is tension because Button's been shooting his mouth off in the press about both the Tweeting and also suggesting Lewis should be shut out of development of next year's car if he is going to leave. Plus I think Lewis is pissed about the choice of set up last week and button getting the better end of that. Lewis is looking for a team where he will get preference and all the team's energies with outrigth nr 1 driver status. Wow, a mind reader 
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