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SmoothCriminal
Original Poster
984 posts
68 months
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Looks like another soulless street circuit is about to be included for 2014 and a night race to boot what is the fascination with street circuits? Monoco I get because of the history but even there the racing is w  k. What's everyone's opinion of this potential venture?
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Jandywa
723 posts
20 months
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To me they are s t. Watching the last race at singapore i thought it just looked like a scaled up indoor kart track, cars were driving around in convoys as overtaking was so hard and there is absolutely nothing to the track. Tarmac-concrete wall. I dont know wether it was because it was at night aswell that made it worse, but it just seemed obvious to me that it was on the calendar purely for the money, and not for the racing.
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EDLT
14,580 posts
75 months
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Eric Mc
67,253 posts
134 months
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The reason for Asian night races is blindingly obvious - and easy to understand.
It is so the race can be shown reasonably close to prime time in the core market for F1 - continental Europe and the UK.
Rather than faciliate the European fans by having European races in traditional venues - we are geting more and more of these plastic tracks with tricks and gimmicks to make them suitable for watching in Europe.
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SmoothCriminal
Original Poster
984 posts
68 months
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EDLT said: Yes that's the one I meant thanks for posting the correct link as you could tell a retard and an iPhone clearly don't mix. Back on topic the thing I don't understand is at these tracks the racing is s t but they are lorded by some in f1 about putting on a great show to be honest if everything is s t apart from the back drop then personally I'd call that a s t show.
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MocMocaMoc
1,112 posts
10 months
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Street circuit driving isnt sh*t (OK, Valencia is f*cking awful) At Moncaco the drivers earn their money.
I dare say a resonably fit young lad, with a good driving head and some training on their neck could pilot an F1 car around certain circuits... well, maybe a GP2 car. They couldnt win a race, of course, and almost certainly come last by some way, but it could be done. I think.
The same could not be said for Monaco. I watch in awe of those fellas at that circuit.
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Fire99
8,083 posts
98 months
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Monaco is great because it is a TRUE street circuit. OK not the best overtaking etc but a unique challenge and even with its neutering, it's got enough elements of old to make it worthwhile. Current 'new' street circuits are a bit ridiculous. They're all gloss and little balls. More a reigned in parade to bring the 'F1 Circus' to a new country. The night race is equally pointless, since It offers no real additional challenge (with its cazillion street lights) other than upsetting the F1 drivers sleep pattern. I think the only benefit of Singapore was that you could see Vettel's silly helmet lights. He appears to be becoming Dynamo from 'The Running Man' movie. ! 
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indigorallye
225 posts
94 months
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Singapore is entirely different when you are there. The atmosphere is fantastic. Granted, the racing is the same, but there is a whole lot more to F1 these days.
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Scuffers
10,404 posts
143 months
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indigorallye said: there is a whole lot more to F1 these days. tell you what then, can we leave F1 to the circus and have our racing back please?
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P_J_R
252 posts
74 months
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Fell asleep half way through it was that exciting.
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indigorallye
225 posts
94 months
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Scuffers said: indigorallye said: there is a whole lot more to F1 these days. tell you what then, can we leave F1 to the circus and have our racing back please? Don't get me wrong, I'm with you. I was just saying..........
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R300will
3,603 posts
20 months
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Monaco= history, glamour etc. Singapore= badly designed, no overtaking, generally s t. Valencia = a bit better as the track's wider and there's a few overtaking spots but still not great. We need more Silverstones and Spa's
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PW
1,753 posts
108 months
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Eric Mc said: Rather than faciliate the European fans by having European races in traditional venues Traditional venues - such as Spa, which seems permanently borderline, Magny Cours/Any other French is almost certainly not going to happen, the Nurburgring went bust, Silverstone's finances seem a regular feature of headlines in recent history... That's why there aren't more races at "traditional venues" and there are more races at "places that pay". Also, how about facilitating fans who aren't in Europe? Yes, the fly aways seem to be attracting small crowds, but there seems to be an automatic overriding assumption that F1 should be in Europe "just because", ignoring the fact that it is a world championship with a global audience - it isn't your sport to keep locked away in Europe because of "tradition" and because it suits your Sunday afternoon. Its entirely fair - wherever, whoever you are - if you can give Bernie the cash, you can host a race. If no one turns up and after a couple of years with no income you find you can't keep it up (Turkey, Korea) then Bernie moves on to his next victim.
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iva cosworth
6,687 posts
32 months
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According to Motorsport news this week Valencia is out of next year so that's one less
dull street circuit.
Agree with OP,new street and [whatsisname] designed circuits are dreadful.
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kiteless
6,281 posts
73 months
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R300will said: We need more Silverstones and Spa's  Moreover, someone in Germany with the b ks to stick two fingers up to the Greens and reinstate Hockenheim to its former glory (without the chicane at Ostkurve, if you please).
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timbob
1,841 posts
121 months
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Maybe it's just me, but I love the street circuits. It's great seeing the cars really move over the bumps and undulations in the road. I love Monaco, have really enjoyed Singapore over the lat 5 seasons (my favourite recent addition to the calendar by a long way), and always enjoy watching footage of the old Detroit street circuit, Adelaide, those kinds of places.
I do agree about Valencia being crap though - but that's not a "proper" street circuit in my book.
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Berw
1,363 posts
74 months
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I took part in a weekend's racing with the Thai super car championship the other week, you get extra points in that drivers championship if you had pit and umbrella girls, could only happen in Thailand, be interesting to see the girls the F1 boys would have with the same rules.
On a serious note I agree street circuits are awfull I've never been to Singapaore dispite it being only a few hours away, no real interest.
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refoman2
234 posts
60 months
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Berw said: I took part in a weekend's racing with the Thai super car championship the other week, you get extra points in that drivers championship if you had pit and umbrella girls, could only happen in Thailand, be interesting to see the girls the F1 boys would have with the same rules.
On a serious note I agree street circuits are awfull I've never been to Singapaore dispite it being only a few hours away, no real interest. they should have it in Pattaya,and if drivers retire they could just nip off to Soi 6 until the race finishes lol
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iva cosworth
6,687 posts
32 months
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iva cosworth said: According to Motorsport news this week Valencia is out of next year so that's one less
dull street circuit.
Agree with OP,new street and [whatsisname] designed circuits are dreadful. Herman Tilke 
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Scuffers
10,404 posts
143 months
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at least Texas looks good....
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