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SmoothCriminal

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1,399 posts

85 months

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Looks like another soulless street circuit is about to be included for 2014 and a night race to boot what is the fascination with street circuits?

Monoco I get because of the history but even there the racing is wk.

What's everyone's opinion of this potential venture?

Edited by SmoothCriminal on Thursday 27th September 12:17

Jandywa

906 posts

37 months

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To me they are st. Watching the last race at singapore i thought it just looked like a scaled up indoor kart track, cars were driving around in convoys as overtaking was so hard and there is absolutely nothing to the track. Tarmac-concrete wall.

I dont know wether it was because it was at night aswell that made it worse, but it just seemed obvious to me that it was on the calendar purely for the money, and not for the racing.

EDLT

14,716 posts

92 months

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Link doesn't work, do you mean this one in Thailand?
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/811...

No amount of funny tyres will save them from another dull street circuit.

Eric Mc

77,156 posts

151 months

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The reason for Asian night races is blindingly obvious - and easy to understand.

It is so the race can be shown reasonably close to prime time in the core market for F1 - continental Europe and the UK.

Rather than faciliate the European fans by having European races in traditional venues - we are geting more and more of these plastic tracks with tricks and gimmicks to make them suitable for watching in Europe.

SmoothCriminal

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1,399 posts

85 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
EDLT said:
Link doesn't work, do you mean this one in Thailand?
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/811...

No amount of funny tyres will save them from another dull street circuit.
Yes that's the one I meant thanks for posting the correct link as you could tell a retard and an iPhone clearly don't mix.

Back on topic the thing I don't understand is at these tracks the racing is st but they are lorded by some in f1 about putting on a great show to be honest if everything is st apart from the back drop then personally I'd call that a st show.



Edited by SmoothCriminal on Thursday 27th September 12:23

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MocMocaMoc

1,524 posts

27 months

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Street circuit driving isnt sh*t (OK, Valencia is f*cking awful) At Moncaco the drivers earn their money.

I dare say a resonably fit young lad, with a good driving head and some training on their neck could pilot an F1 car around certain circuits... well, maybe a GP2 car. They couldnt win a race, of course, and almost certainly come last by some way, but it could be done. I think.

The same could not be said for Monaco. I watch in awe of those fellas at that circuit.

Fire99

8,683 posts

115 months

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Monaco is great because it is a TRUE street circuit. OK not the best overtaking etc but a unique challenge and even with its neutering, it's got enough elements of old to make it worthwhile.

Current 'new' street circuits are a bit ridiculous. They're all gloss and little balls. More a reigned in parade to bring the 'F1 Circus' to a new country.
The night race is equally pointless, since It offers no real additional challenge (with its cazillion street lights) other than upsetting the F1 drivers sleep pattern.

I think the only benefit of Singapore was that you could see Vettel's silly helmet lights. He appears to be becoming Dynamo from 'The Running Man' movie. ! smile

indigorallye

337 posts

111 months

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Singapore is entirely different when you are there. The atmosphere is fantastic. Granted, the racing is the same, but there is a whole lot more to F1 these days.

Scuffers

14,289 posts

160 months

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indigorallye said:
there is a whole lot more to F1 these days.
tell you what then, can we leave F1 to the circus and have our racing back please?

P_J_R

252 posts

91 months

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Fell asleep half way through it was that exciting.

indigorallye

337 posts

111 months

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Scuffers said:
indigorallye said:
there is a whole lot more to F1 these days.
tell you what then, can we leave F1 to the circus and have our racing back please?
Don't get me wrong, I'm with you. I was just saying..........

R300will

3,724 posts

37 months

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Monaco= history, glamour etc. Singapore= badly designed, no overtaking, generally st. Valencia
= a bit better as the track's wider and there's a few overtaking spots but still not great.

We need more Silverstones and Spa's

PW

2,228 posts

125 months

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Eric Mc said:
Rather than faciliate the European fans by having European races in traditional venues
Traditional venues - such as Spa, which seems permanently borderline, Magny Cours/Any other French is almost certainly not going to happen, the Nurburgring went bust, Silverstone's finances seem a regular feature of headlines in recent history...

That's why there aren't more races at "traditional venues" and there are more races at "places that pay".

Also, how about facilitating fans who aren't in Europe? Yes, the fly aways seem to be attracting small crowds, but there seems to be an automatic overriding assumption that F1 should be in Europe "just because", ignoring the fact that it is a world championship with a global audience - it isn't your sport to keep locked away in Europe because of "tradition" and because it suits your Sunday afternoon.

Its entirely fair - wherever, whoever you are - if you can give Bernie the cash, you can host a race.

If no one turns up and after a couple of years with no income you find you can't keep it up (Turkey, Korea) then Bernie moves on to his next victim.

iva cosworth

14,845 posts

49 months

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According to Motorsport news this week Valencia is out of next year so that's one less

dull street circuit.

Agree with OP,new street and [whatsisname] designed circuits are dreadful.

kiteless

7,054 posts

90 months

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R300will said:
We need more Silverstones and Spa's
yes

Moreover, someone in Germany with the bks to stick two fingers up to the Greens and reinstate Hockenheim to its former glory (without the chicane at Ostkurve, if you please).



timbob

1,875 posts

138 months

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Maybe it's just me, but I love the street circuits. It's great seeing the cars really move over the bumps and undulations in the road. I love Monaco, have really enjoyed Singapore over the lat 5 seasons (my favourite recent addition to the calendar by a long way), and always enjoy watching footage of the old Detroit street circuit, Adelaide, those kinds of places.

I do agree about Valencia being crap though - but that's not a "proper" street circuit in my book.

Berw

1,712 posts

91 months

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I took part in a weekend's racing with the Thai super car championship the other week, you get extra points in that drivers championship if you had pit and umbrella girls, could only happen in Thailand, be interesting to see the girls the F1 boys would have with the same rules.
On a serious note I agree street circuits are awfull I've never been to Singapaore dispite it being only a few hours away, no real interest.

refoman2

266 posts

77 months

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Berw said:
I took part in a weekend's racing with the Thai super car championship the other week, you get extra points in that drivers championship if you had pit and umbrella girls, could only happen in Thailand, be interesting to see the girls the F1 boys would have with the same rules.
On a serious note I agree street circuits are awfull I've never been to Singapaore dispite it being only a few hours away, no real interest.
they should have it in Pattaya,and if drivers retire they could just nip off to Soi 6 until the race finishes lol

iva cosworth

14,845 posts

49 months

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iva cosworth said:
According to Motorsport news this week Valencia is out of next year so that's one less

dull street circuit.

Agree with OP,new street and [whatsisname] designed circuits are dreadful.
Herman Tilkeevil

Scuffers

14,289 posts

160 months

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at least Texas looks good....
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