Silverstone BTCC

[decadence]

I love BTCC, always been a massive fan and Tarquini is my hero amongst others and i own a Tarquini BTCC Alfa 155 replica such is my passion.
I say that because just watch this clip.....in fact the first 3 corners tell you all you need to know...
Yes its fun to watch..but then your left with half the field....and it is in cold light of day...a really good example...of bad driving in the BTCC of late...Jason Plato being one of its main protagonists.......

'enjoy' (it really is exciting..but is it what we really want from 'professionals'?)

its like the best and worst advert for the current BTCC!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNrIf3iVsGY

Edited by decadence on Thursday 4th October 18:00

[EDLT]

You know Tarquini was involved in those kinds of incidents as well?

[IainW]

EDLT said:

You know Tarquini was involved in those kinds of incidents as well?

Exactly! As much as I like Gabriele, he's a very dirty driver.

[bravonovember]

decadence said:

I love BTCC, always been a massive fan and Tarquini is my hero amongst others and i own a Tarquini BTCC Alfa 155 replica such is my passion.
I say that because just watch this clip.....in fact the first 3 corners tell you all you need to know...
Yes its fun to watch..but then your left with half the field....and it is in cold light of day...a really good example...of bad driving in the BTCC of late...Jason Plato being one of its main protagonists.......

'enjoy' (it really is exciting..but is it what we really want from 'professionals'?)

its like the best and worst advert for the current BTCC!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNrIf3iVsGY

Edited by decadence on Thursday 4th October 18:00

Thanks not seen that. Above is bloody ridiculous! Ginetta's and Clio's are just as bad! Whats the point of defending and lunging like that! How is that entertainment? If I every EVERY have a driver race like that I would give them a good bloody talking too.

[metalsteve]

Back on topic, looking forward to seeing Dan Welch back at silverstone and i'll be hoping for some better results and better luck for the very cool Rob Austin.

[decadence]

Rob Austin is the dude. Kinda in that James Hunt mold. Always have my fingers crossed for him.

BTW Tarquini isn't anywhere near a dirty driver...well not compared to Muller! lol

[VX Foxy]

The Wookie said:

IainW said:

Have you two got previous form?

Well last time I raced against him was at Zolder when I rather unstylishly parked an Evora in his passenger door during a slightly ambitious overtake!

Apparently he wasn't particularly impressed!

I would have said sorry the next day but they went home because their BMW didn't spring back into shape quite as readily as our trusty plastic Lotus...

Well at least there's no Thorney/AMD rivalry to add to the mix for this weekend...

[Sixpackpert]

Will be there on Sunday with the Pirtek team and a massively pregnant wife!

[Vocal Minority]

Have been watching some mid 90s reveiws and races on youtube, and whilst I still maintain it is better to have works teams involved (I have heard the arguements against, but I still think it would improve the series to have more factory invovlement).

However - driving standards in the mid 90s were just as shoddy vis a vis driving into eachother (I am not defending the current ones as I think they do need to improve - but its certainly no worse!)

[Munter]

It's close racing. The drivers know that the cars will withstand the odd tap. They all want to get to the front. They will use every bit of knowledge about their car and the other guys car to get past. And that's going to include contact if they think it'll give them advantage, without a penalty.

We either live with it (as we have since it's creation), or we physically make the cars so any contact is pretty much bound to disadvantage both cars.

I take the live with it option. Jump on anything clearly unsafe/blatent punting. And otherwise accept that strong cars, raced closely, by nutters (any racing driver is clearly unhinged ), will occasionally make contact.

[Amateurish]

I'll be there this afternoon with the kids, and again on Sunday for the races. Weather looks to be improving here.

[EDLT]

IainW said:

EDLT said:

You know Tarquini was involved in those kinds of incidents as well?

Exactly! As much as I like Gabriele, he's a very dirty driver.

I didn't want to imply that he was particularly bad, all the pros of that era didn't spare the bumpers. If anything I think there is less contact now because most drivers are paying the bills.

[decadence]

EDLT said:

IainW said:

EDLT said:

You know Tarquini was involved in those kinds of incidents as well?

Exactly! As much as I like Gabriele, he's a very dirty driver.

I didn't want to imply that he was particularly bad, all the pros of that era didn't spare the bumpers. If anything I think there is less contact now because most drivers are paying the bills.

You would think so EDLT, but i notice that theres a different thing at play nowadays, for example i imagine if you raced for Vauxhall / alfa romeo / ford etc in the 'glory days' you were on a contract like say a pro footballer, so if you did something wrong the team manager could boot you out.
What we have these days is someone like Liam Griffin (sorry Griffin fans) whose Daddy pays for him to race and basically funds much of that team....so if Griffin drives badly....whose going to sack him, or dare to tell him he's useless?
Same with Andy Neate..he pays the 650k to race, he can pretty much do what he likes within that season...he wont get sacked thats for sure....how ever many pannels he breaks.

[Vocal Minority]

What if he breaks £651k worth of panels

A ticket for Sunday has fallen into my lap now. Be rude not to.

[decadence]

Vocal Minority said:

What if he breaks £651k worth of panels

A ticket for Sunday has fallen into my lap now. Be rude not to.

Thank God MG's are made in China now... cheap as chips.

[Chris Sideways]

[quote=decadence]

Same with Andy Neate..he pays the 650k to race, he can pretty much do what he likes within that season...he wont get sacked thats for sure....how ever many pannels he breaks.

650k how much money has he made out of light bulbs if you can blow that in a year playing racing driver he must be worth 10's of millions I imangine a fleet of luxury cars massive mansion plane/chopper and a fit wife/girlfriend good on him I know I bloody would

[decadence]

Chris Sideways]ecadence said:

Same with Andy Neate..he pays the 650k to race, he can pretty much do what he likes within that season...he wont get sacked thats for sure....how ever many pannels he breaks.

650k how much money has he made out of light bulbs if you can blow that in a year playing racing driver he must be worth 10's of millions I imangine a fleet of luxury cars massive mansion plane/chopper and a fit wife/girlfriend good on him I know I bloody would

Indeed so would I, if i made my fortune I'd do it in an Alfa, turn the 159 into a BTCC weapon , have both my brothers racing for me (both actual racing drivers, I'm not, I'm st).
Tell you what though I'd not give a hell about bending a few pannels, which is my point.

[IainW]

I've karted against him at a forum kart event a few years back. He's a good guy and I feel sorry for all the criticism he gets after almost being paralysed or worse, but he just doesn't seem able to string a consistent season together, even though he's had a lot of decent equipment.

[decadence]

IainW said:

I've karted against him at a forum kart event a few years back. He's a good guy and I feel sorry for all the criticism he gets after almost being paralysed or worse, but he just doesn't seem able to string a consistent season together, even though he's had a lot of decent equipment.

I really didn't know he'd been almost paralysed, was that due to a racing incident?

[Chris Sideways]

decadence said:

IainW said:

I've karted against him at a forum kart event a few years back. He's a good guy and I feel sorry for all the criticism he gets after almost being paralysed or worse, but he just doesn't seem able to string a consistent season together, even though he's had a lot of decent equipment.

I really didn't know he'd been almost paralysed, was that due to a racing incident?

Yeah huge shunt at the start of the Britcar 24hr in 2008 driving a TVR broke his neck and in a coma as I remember respect for coming back after that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3I5b_PULVA&fea...

Edited by Chris Sideways on Friday 5th October 22:28