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woof

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8,257 posts

165 months

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Back to the racing !

Some very unsettled weather in Japan at the moment - Typhoon Jelawat is causing a lot of damage.
http://news.sky.com/story/991265/typhoon-jelawat-h...


Tokyo is some 200 miles north west of Suzuka and will clear before the race weekend. Local forecast is a bit mixed depending where you look - but a bit of rain would make it interesting - maybe we'll see Kimi finally win a race in 2012!


Gene Vincent

4,002 posts

46 months

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I'm going for a Button/Perez one-two.

Put a marker down early I say!

woof

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I think it's going to be a Hamilton win and Alonso will of course pick up some points

Looking further ahead.. Alonso has this championship tied up - it's his to loose right now and that's a bloody strong position to be in.
Mclaren to get the constructors title ( about time they did it again ) Lewis to get within a few points of winning the WDC

Life Saab Itch

37,056 posts

76 months

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Both Saubers on the podium...

Gaz.

50,479 posts

139 months

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Assuming no team howlers I expect a Mclaren 1-2 with Hamilton leading Button over the line, Alonso third.
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TerzoNeil

253 posts

91 months

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can see the hamster going on the podium but not winning race, either button or fingers with alfonso fourth

vonuber

6,488 posts

53 months

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1st: Pic
2nd: Glock
3rd: Petrov


And you know that would be an awesome race.

MSTRBKR

6,054 posts

86 months

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I'm not sure that Ferrari will be that strong here. I see a 4th place for Alonso. McLaren are on a roll lately so...

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Button

But McLaren hardly ever get both cars in the top 5 let alone the top 3 so realistically...

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Raikkonen

Raikkonen has had 3 podiums in the last 5 races, with a 5th and 6th in the last two. He's definitely capable of the WDC. He can poach it from here like Vettel poached it in 2010.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

143 months

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Button likes Japan. Did well last year. I'll say Button Win, Lewis second, and Vettel 3rd, with Alonso 4th.

Nick1point9

3,621 posts

68 months

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MSTRBKR said:
I'm not sure that Ferrari will be that strong here. I see a 4th place for Alonso. McLaren are on a roll lately so...

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Button

But McLaren hardly ever get both cars in the top 5 let alone the top 3 so realistically...

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Raikkonen

Raikkonen has had 3 podiums in the last 5 races, with a 5th and 6th in the last two. He's definitely capable of the WDC. He can poach it from here like Vettel poached it in 2010.
I don't think Raikkonen is in a similar position to contend the WDC like Vettel was in 2010; Vettel won 3 of the last 6 in 2010 which I can't see Raikkonen doing. Realistically, will Raikkonen out score Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso, when 2 of them have better cars?

robmlufc

4,135 posts

74 months

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Life Saab Itch said:
Both Saubers on the podium...
Perez on the top step I reckon.

stevesingo

1,914 posts

110 months

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Button
Hamilton
Perez
Raikkonen
Vettel
Alonso

Will Button give way to Hamilton for the WDC? No. Why would he now?

We will see the Ferrari is somewhere behind the rest

woof

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8,257 posts

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Alonso doesn't have to win - he only need to score a handful of points per race and let the others fight. He's too mature a driver to throw it away. (cue Alonso throwing the WDC away)


MGJohn

8,582 posts

71 months

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With the Hamilton-McLaren split out in the open, how good will his cars now be for the rest of the season? Was it mere coincidence and merely bad luck Hamilton had a rare non-self-inflicted Mechanical DNF in the last race? Doubt it, points mean more than prizes in F1. There again, it appears from what information is available, they took a chance with a known gearbox question hanging over Hamilton's car. Surely they should have made a certainty of these things. Funny old games folks sometimes play. You never know though.

So, I expect McLaren to continue their recently found superiority with Button now in the forefront. Nobody appears to have given Maldonado much thought. I expect his change of attitude to be again more productive and anticipate a good showing with the possibility of a win not out of the question.

Alonso will be wise to continue to drive for best points rather than the win, taking a win if fortune is on his side as has happened before. Yes, wise to continue trying to make a certainty of a good points score rather than beating every other car.

Until a few races ago I was expecting better things to continue from improved Lotus but, they continue to flatter to deceive. They will be thereabouts if luck again plays a part, not from better car/driver combinations I feel.

Vettel and the Red Bull cars. There will be huge incentive to maximise Vettel's chances in the remaining races. He's won from a long way back in previous seasons so again, there's a chance. Only takes a slip up from the Red Car Team or their No.1 driver or, a downturn of luck as happened at Monza and it's all change at the top in a race or two.

What of the two Mercedes cars? Who knows. That team continues to be an enigma from just about every aspect all season but a good showing is always possible. By the way, you can get 100-1 each way for a Schumacher win...

So all things considered, best thing if McLaren are not top car come Suzuka is stick a pin in all the top half dozen teams. It could be that close.

Continues to be one of the most interesting seasons for along time whatever happens in the remaining races.

Yes, very interesting. Hamilton drives the three pointed star next season ... who knew? Not me. What a turn up! Eddie J did apparently.

another 3 points

506 posts

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I really hope Schumacher has a good race finishing in the points. Might encourage him to stay in the sport..at Sauber hopefully. Anyway, about time we had another race, its building towards an exciting final race.

FadeTrade

532 posts

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woof said:
Alonso doesn't have to win - he only need to score a handful of points per race and let the others fight. He's too mature a driver to throw it away. (cue Alonso throwing the WDC away)
He isn't that far ahead. Just 3 more races like Singapore with Vettel winning and he's no longer leading.

woof

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FadeTrade said:
woof said:
Alonso doesn't have to win - he only need to score a handful of points per race and let the others fight. He's too mature a driver to throw it away. (cue Alonso throwing the WDC away)
He isn't that far ahead. Just 3 more races like Singapore with Vettel winning and he's no longer leading.
Valid point - if Vettel is 28 points behind - even Lewis still has a chance being 50 points behind.
Alonso hasn't won since Germany and I think he's natural position is 4 or 5th but he keeps scoring points and his rivals keep throwing it away.

So maybe it's still a 3 way fight - Alonso, Lewis & Vettel ( I don't see Kimi being part of it)
Mclaren odds on favourite to win the Team Champs

skinny

3,709 posts

123 months

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top 6 prediction - vettel (from pole), button, alonso, hamilton, raikonnen, perez.
and unless there's rain, quite a boring race despite a fantastic circuit.

Gaz.

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woof said:
Valid point - if Vettel is 28 points behind - even Lewis still has a chance being 50 points behind.
Alonso hasn't won since Germany and I think he's natural position is 4 or 5th but he keeps scoring points and his rivals keep throwing it away.

So maybe it's still a 3 way fight - Alonso, Lewis & Vettel ( I don't see Kimi being part of it)
Mclaren odds on favourite to win the Team Champs
He has also had an incredible amount of luck, when the car was not as good as its peers in the early races it turned out to be very good in wet & cold conditions hence the handy win in Malaysia while two of his rivals had a mare involving HRT. Rosberg won China when Fernando only finished 9th. Then the car improved dramatically and he scored decent points in the next 7 races before Grosjean wiped out himself but crucially another WDC competitor too. He's had a fantastically reliable car while the three other teams have had various gremlins at crucial moments during the season.

Serendipity72

191 posts

27 months

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Suzuka is both very fast and a big test of driver skill.
It is exactly the sort of circuit that the Red Bull doesn't like.

Jenson and Kimi both like it here. So one or both of them for the podium.

Force India, Sauber and Williams could all surprise.
But the safest money has to be on Alonso for a top 4 finish.
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