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mchammer89
3,084 posts
82 months
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CiderwithCerbie said: Have you got anything interesting or different to say at all? Concise as you like, the definition of irony right there.
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McClure
1,214 posts
15 months
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Yeah, RB 1-2 in quali again thanks to their double DRS; Vettel will win, Alonso and Hamilton fighting over 2nd; and Grosjean only to score 1 in his personal first corner ten-pin bowling session.
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davepoth
19,913 posts
68 months
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CiderwithCerbie said: Another fascinating post about the subject!
Have you got anything interesting or different to say at all? Or do you just want to have one opinion on these thread so that PH can reflect your own narrow view of the world?
Seriously if you look at that You Tube Vid, I don't think the woman interviewing Vettel was too impressed either, but her perception/feelings don't matter obviously. It was not a smart or mature thing to do on live feed, I did not find it amusing but cringeworthy and disrespectful - so sorry that I have a different opinion to others, and that you find it so difficult to accept.
PS Grow up Oh dear. It was merely meant in jest - Lee has been doing the F1 interviewing for almost as long as Vettel has been driving in F1 and I assume they know each other fairly well as a result - it was a bit of a joke. You know, ha ha? It's not like he went motorboating or anything. Jeez.
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Gaz.
Original Poster
47,151 posts
120 months
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mchammer89 said: CiderwithCerbie said: Have you got anything interesting or different to say at all? Concise as you like, the definition of irony right there. You are both as bad as each other and this forum would be so much better if neither of you were part of it. Oh hang on I've got a button for that.
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Gaz.
Original Poster
47,151 posts
120 months
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Crafty_ said: Disagree. The MP4/4 was simply a step ahead all year, on average it qualified a second ahead of any car, at Monaco Senna was something like 2.7 seconds quicker than any other team.
McLaren have not had that sort of performance advantage this year, although I would agree they have squandered opportunities. I see your point but the points table wouldn't show a second per lap, nor does it need to, if the fastest car with the fastest driver and the most astute driver isn't at the top of both tables then as a team they have underperformed.
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Wurls
1,260 posts
74 months
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CiderwithCerbie said: how can you not like a sexist perv who only sings when he's winning? Did you mean to post in the JS thread?
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Crafty_
4,536 posts
69 months
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Gaz. said: I see your point but the points table wouldn't show a second per lap, nor does it need to, if the fastest car with the fastest driver and the most astute driver isn't at the top of both tables then as a team they have underperformed. I don't think McLaren have had the fastest car this year, certainly not consistently, in some races yes, but not the entire year. Couple that with Jenson "balance" Button struggling for a third of the season and some unreliability thrown in for good measure. MP4/4 won the WCC 199 points to 65, it didn't just dominate, it utterly destroyed every other team. Over 16 races they had 3 DNFs and 1 disqualification between the two cars and ten 1-2 finishes. They only didn't win at Monza due to Schlesser t-boning Senna as he re-joined the track.
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Plug550
790 posts
84 months
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Gaz. said: mchammer89 said: CiderwithCerbie said: Have you got anything interesting or different to say at all? Concise as you like, the definition of irony right there. You are both as bad as each other and this forum would be so much better if neither of you were part of it. Oh hang on I've got a button for that. Oh please, press it - PRESS IT !!!!!
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Life Saab Itch
34,072 posts
57 months
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Dr Z
779 posts
40 months
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Aw! Can't we keep 'em! 
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MGJohn
6,650 posts
52 months
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Dr Z said: . That's what my crystal ball is showing at the moment... Probably fancy a bet on a Button win.
/waits till all the predictions are disproved. . You must have the same Crystal Ball as mine...  Button will be at much longer odds than his team mate too. Wurls said: . If RB run away with both Championships then Whitmarsh and the chump from Williams should be given the tin. . That is very Football-FanBoyish. Players underachieve so sack the managers. Jungles said: . Red Bull was absolutely dominant in Valencia, but look at their performance in the following races. I think Suzuka was a fluke more than anything else. We don't know who will be dominant in Korea. . Maybe you've spotted something which I suspected last weekend. Team Mclaren hugely underachieved based on immediate past race form and created the impression that Red Bull are now uncatchable. Could be very misleading based on that one off in Japan. P-Jay said:
Is it too fanboy to ask for a LH win and SV to be Pastored and FA to be Grosjeaned? .
Yes it is as it would be if you wished for a someone else to Button it! ..  ucb said: . Would to see FA win just for his ability to have dragged the donkey around to impossible results all season . Why no credit for Massa's fine effort last Sunday in the no.2 "Donkey"? Fan-Boy bias ??
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P-Jay
3,629 posts
60 months
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Be very happy to see Jenson come in second, as long as he's behind Lewis 
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MGJohn
6,650 posts
52 months
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Jasandjules said: Fingers crossed for a half decent race. Indecent races are much more interesting. Deploy the Grosjean and bring on the former Maldonado and make it so ...  Seriously, come on Falonso ~ my WDC money's on you and it's looking an increasingly "iffy" investment just lately ... and stop crashing into Raikkonen and Grosjean. .. 
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DanDC5
6,926 posts
36 months
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vonuber said: DanDC5 said: Watching Lee Mckenzie interview him is always hilarious, he just flirts with her a bit and puts her off completely  The interview with the red dress was genius. My favourite was the classic 'you have my number why do you never text me?' 
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Nick1point9
3,427 posts
49 months
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vonuber said: CiderwithCerbie said: He really is very good, but why is he so difficult to like? What do you think of Rosberg, Hulkenberg and Glock?  Indifferent to Rosberg, prefer Hulkenberg to Di Resta and Tim O'Glock is great!
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Wurls
1,260 posts
74 months
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MGJohn said: [ Wurls said: . If RB run away with both Championships then Whitmarsh and the chump from Williams should be given the tin. . That is very Football-FanBoyish. Players underachieve so sack the managers. Nothing to do with the car then? Fanboy? Me?? haha. Use buzz words if it helps you keep up.
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MGJohn
6,650 posts
52 months
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Wurls said: MGJohn said: [ Wurls said: . If RB run away with both Championships then Whitmarsh and the chump from Williams should be given the tin. . That is very Football-FanBoyish. Players underachieve so sack the managers. Nothing to do with the car then? Fanboy? Me?? haha. Use buzz words if it helps you keep up. Nothing to do with the driver then? I'm well in front of you ~ I'm not a fanboy ...  A five slot drop back on the grid helps a bit too.... that does not apply to only Mclaren.
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Flying Toilet
2,887 posts
80 months
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Whitmarsh can be a hindrance though for McLaren, he spends so much time watching what the rivals are doing in the hope he can find out some information he takes his eye off the ball of his own team.
I can see Vettel taking this one in his stride and the championship lead with it.
I have a feeling Kimi will be strong here too.
1. Vettel. 2. Kimi. 3. Alonso
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FloppyRaccoon
1,916 posts
35 months
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Has Kimi ever driven here? I don't think he has, not that that will have a huge effect on his performance. I still expect him to finish in the top 5 (assuming the new exhaust doesn't ruin the car).
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stephen300o
12,646 posts
97 months
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wevster said: skinny said: vettel? one of the easier guys to like i'd say, if you've seen any of his interviews with Lee Mckenzie or Jake Humpries and DC. very accessible, funny etc. at least, when he does ok in the race. proved his detractors wrong saying he can't overtake, etc.
sits easily in my top 3. The finger waving really gets on my nerves, if it wasn't for that he would be ok. Lewis pumps his fist when he wins, but no one complains of his fisting.. 
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