Monisha Kaltenborn

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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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First female team principal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formul...

Congratulations. I like the cut if her jib, always comes across well.

rdjohn

6,135 posts

194 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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I agree, for women to succeed in a male dominant sphere, they normally have to be twice, or four times better than their male counterparts.

For Peter Sauber to also give her 1/3rd of his company, she must be truly spectacular. This year, I really would like her team to get ahead of Mercedes, if only to get them more of Bernie’s cash to help them to keep KOB for next year.

I thought it nice when she gave him a motherly hug before the start of the race in Japan.

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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She seems to be doing a good job at Sauber, they have been impressive this year.

davepoth

29,395 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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I think it helps that she doesn't come from motorsport - she's running the team as a business first, and that certainly seems to be helping an awful lot.

AlpineWhite

2,140 posts

194 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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davepoth said:
I think it helps that she doesn't come from motorsport - she's running the team as a business first, and that certainly seems to be helping an awful lot.
Adam Parr came from business too, as opposed to motorsport. Monisha seems to be doing a rather better job, although I've no idea what Sauber's accounts are like.

davepoth

29,395 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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AlpineWhite said:
Adam Parr came from business too, as opposed to motorsport. Monisha seems to be doing a rather better job, although I've no idea what Sauber's accounts are like.
Swiss, so probably quite good. Parr was a bit hamstrung in that Williams was on a fairly obvious downward tilt when he was at the helm as a result of mistakes made years previously. Sauber was pretty much a clean slate after BMW sold it back.

Dr Z

3,396 posts

170 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Good Luck to her. She looked like she was going to cry any minute, sat in the Sauber Pitwall last race! biglaugh (Watching Kob race probably did that!)

rallycross

12,747 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Sauber is an odd team, much as I would love to see them get a win soon I just can't see it ever happening without a drastic change of approach, otherwise coming second (or just being a nice bunch) seems to be their goal.

skinny

5,269 posts

234 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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AlpineWhite said:
Adam Parr came from business too, as opposed to motorsport. Monisha seems to be doing a rather better job, although I've no idea what Sauber's accounts are like.
actually by many accounts, parr was pretty successful in helping williams cash problems - it wasn't like it was his job to make a decent car etc.
rumours are that he left because bernie had a strong dislike of parr and made frank a tempting deal upon renewing the concorde agreement if he got rid of him. and if bernie dislikes parr, it's probably because he was rather clever and perhaps advocated something sensible for the teams or the sport that wouldn't have been in bernie's (financial) interest.

edit: but agreed, good for monica, she seems like a good egg and i hope she manages to keep peter Saubers team going from strength to strength.

Grenoble

50,291 posts

154 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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skinny said:
rumours are that he left because bernie had a strong dislike of parr and made frank a tempting deal upon renewing the concorde agreement if he got rid of him. and if bernie dislikes parr, it's probably because he was rather clever and perhaps advocated something sensible for the teams or the sport that wouldn't have been in bernie's (financial) interest.
Close. Parr didn't agree with the deal on the table, he and Frank couldn't reconcile the disagreement. So essentially Bernie sold the deal above Parrs head. I don't recall Bernie disliking Parr - or needing to make such a threat - he just created an offer that he could sell to Frank.

skinny

5,269 posts

234 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Grenoble said:
Close. Parr didn't agree with the deal on the table, he and Frank couldn't reconcile the disagreement. So essentially Bernie sold the deal above Parrs head. I don't recall Bernie disliking Parr - or needing to make such a threat - he just created an offer that he could sell to Frank.
Fair enough - maybe i took some of Joe Sawards speculation as truth.
http://f1mole.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/the-mole-ta...

Reality is probably somewhere in teh middle - Parr's departure was very sudden and unexpected.

IainT

10,040 posts

237 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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rallycross said:
Sauber is an odd team, much as I would love to see them get a win soon I just can't see it ever happening without a drastic change of approach, otherwise coming second (or just being a nice bunch) seems to be their goal.
Sauber remind me of football teams like Stoke - they knwo they haven't the budget to challenge the top teams so they se their sights a little lower and work bloody hard to achieve the best they can.

Monisha always comes across well in interviews and must have something special to impress Sauber.

RAClNG SNAKE

3,606 posts

231 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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I did wonder if Peter's gift of stock was to ensure she stayed with the team long term. I am sure Vijay would consider someone like her for the top job.

BaronVonVaderham

2,316 posts

146 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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davepoth said:
I think it helps that she doesn't come from motorsport - she's running the team as a business first, and that certainly seems to be helping an awful lot.
I dislike this aspect of her background, she reminds me of some souless, mindless, HR drone-autonamot-middle-manager with no imagination. Sport is all about passion, not sticking chavball logos on a racing car.

Might be good for the team finacially and be totally necessary to keep them going, but I much prefer the ex-racer Horner approach as when interviewed you can tell he really understands the finer points of racers and racing. Kaltenborn just regurgitates press releases like a press officer.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

227 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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BaronVonVaderham said:
davepoth said:
I think it helps that she doesn't come from motorsport - she's running the team as a business first, and that certainly seems to be helping an awful lot.
I dislike this aspect of her background, she reminds me of some souless, mindless, HR drone-autonamot-middle-manager with no imagination. Sport is all about passion, not sticking chavball logos on a racing car.

Might be good for the team finacially and be totally necessary to keep them going, but I much prefer the ex-racer Horner approach as when interviewed you can tell he really understands the finer points of racers and racing. Kaltenborn just regurgitates press releases like a press officer.
She certainly doesn't come across as soulless or mindless, quite the opposite. It's always nice to see her on the F1 shows.
I wish her luck to help bring team Sauber nearer the front of the grid.

Grenoble

50,291 posts

154 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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stephen300o said:
She certainly doesn't come across as soulless or mindless, quite the opposite. It's always nice to see her on the F1 shows.
I wish her luck to help bring team Sauber nearer the front of the grid.
And she isn't like that in person - she's very personable and quite funny - she might just need some more PR / camera training. It's hard; they get hounded at F1 events.

davepoth

29,395 posts

198 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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stephen300o said:
She certainly doesn't come across as soulless or mindless, quite the opposite. It's always nice to see her on the F1 shows.
I wish her luck to help bring team Sauber nearer the front of the grid.
That's already done I think - the points they've won this season will put them in a pretty decent position financially for next year, and the rules are reasonably stable for 2013.

DJRC

23,563 posts

235 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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rallycross said:
Sauber is an odd team, much as I would love to see them get a win soon I just can't see it ever happening without a drastic change of approach, otherwise coming second (or just being a nice bunch) seems to be their goal.
Staying viable and in business is their goal. There was much angst and gnashing of teeth in Switzerland after what happened last time. They are effectively the Swiss national team, but run on a privateer basis.