RE: Loeb can't help but win

RE: Loeb can't help but win

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emicen

8,558 posts

217 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1 frown
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.

CraigyMc

16,332 posts

235 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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emicen said:
ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1 frown
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.
Eh? He's doing WTCC next year in a Citroen <tobenamed>.

They haven't done a formal announce as the car he'll be driving isn't public yet.

He's doing 4 events in WRC this year as well as racing a McLaren MP4-12C in GT Sprint.

C

ETA by next year, I mean 2014.

Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 21st January 13:26

emicen

8,558 posts

217 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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CraigyMc said:
emicen said:
ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1 frown
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.
Eh? He's doing WTCC next year in a Citroen <tobenamed>.

They haven't done a formal announce as the car he'll be driving isn't public yet.

He's doing 4 events in WRC this year as well as racing a McLaren MP4-12C in GT Sprint.

C

ETA by next year, I mean 2014.

Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 21st January 13:26
In addition to playing in a Peugeot LMP car he was trying at various points a few years back, with backing from RedBull, to get a super licence to race in F1.

They rejected this on the grounds he doesnt have relevant experience for a super licence. In the years since then, he hasnt been able to go away and garner relevant experience by doing things like GP2 or F3 as he has been doing full seasons in WRC.

Now that he has the time to do them, it might be more realistic, although age wise, the boat may have sailed.

His WTCC and GT racing plans this year and next dont detract from the fact in recent years he was trying to make things happen for an F1 drive but it wasnt realistic whilst still doing the job that paid the bills.

EDLT

15,421 posts

205 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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CraigyMc said:
emicen said:
ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1 frown
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.
Eh? He's doing WTCC next year in a Citroen <tobenamed>.

They haven't done a formal announce as the car he'll be driving isn't public yet.

He's doing 4 events in WRC this year as well as racing a McLaren MP4-12C in GT Sprint.

C

ETA by next year, I mean 2014.

Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 21st January 13:26
He also races a Porsche GT3 car when he has a free weekend.

BlackpoolRock

1,183 posts

151 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
LAD ! thumbup

CraigyMc

16,332 posts

235 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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BlackpoolRock said:
sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
LAD ! thumbup
I half expect to see him turning up at the IOM TT.. wink

ukaskew

10,642 posts

220 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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emicen said:
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.
Ma Qing Hua gained his licence despite a staggeringly unremarkable career so far, as I understood it two days driving around Silverstone in an HRT several seconds slower Max Chilton was all he needed. Are the requirements, erm, 'flexible'?

CraigyMc

16,332 posts

235 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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ukaskew said:
emicen said:
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.
Ma Qing Hua gained his licence despite a staggeringly unremarkable career so far, as I understood it two days driving around Silverstone in an HRT several seconds slower Max Chilton was all he needed. Are the requirements, erm, 'flexible'?
FIA said:
5. Qualification and conditions of issue for the Super Licence

The FIA Formula One Driver Super Licence is issued by the FIA.
5.1 Qualifications
5.1.1 The driver must be the holder of a current FIA International Grade A licence.
5.1.2 The driver must also satisfy at least one of the following requirements:
a) have made at least 5 starts in races counting for the FIA Formula One World Championship for Drivers the previous year, or at least 15 starts within the previous 3 years.
b) have previously held the Super Licence and have been the regular test driver with an F1 World Championship team for the previous year.
c) have been classified, within the previous 2 years, in the first 3 of the final classification of: the F2 Championship, or the International F3 Trophy, or the GP2 Series, or the GP2 Asia Series or the Japanese F/Nippon Championship,
d) have been classified in the first 4 of the final classification of the Indycar IRL series within the previous 2 years,
e) be the current champion of one of the following:
- Formula 3 Euro Series
- The principal national F3 championships of: Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Spain
- World Series F/Renault V6
N.B.: the title of Champion is considered valid for 12 months from the last race of the relevant series or championship season.
f) be judged by the FIA to have consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars, but with no opportunity to qualify under any of c) to e) above. In this case the F1 team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula One car consistently at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed not more than 90 days prior to the application and certified by the ASN of the country in which the test took place.
By exception, if supported by the FIA Safety Commission, the FIA World Motor Sport Council may approve the issue of the Super Licence to persons judged by the Council to have met the intent of the qualification process
Refer: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/C30FA5AA9...

rwindmill

429 posts

157 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Baryonyx said:
He is simply the best. The ultimate talent!
I have no doubt he has talent, but is he the ultimate talent. Or, is it just that his competition really isnt up to much?

Is it just me that thinks its strange that Filand can currently only offer up two mediocre drivers as competition????? When you think of Finland's motorsport heritage, you cant help but expect better from them

CraigyMc

16,332 posts

235 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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rwindmill said:
Baryonyx said:
He is simply the best. The ultimate talent!
I have no doubt he has talent, but is he the ultimate talent. Or, is it just that his competition really isnt up to much?

Is it just me that thinks its strange that Filand can currently only offer up two mediocre drivers as competition????? When you think of Finland's motorsport heritage, you cant help but expect better from them
Raikkonnen won an F1 race this year in a car which isn't exactly at the top of the class, but he hardly covered himself in glory while he was rallying.

I don't think a driver at the top of his game in one class is necessarily godlike in all classes, but if you had to have one guy cover off everything, I recon Loeb would have to be on the shortlist.

C

EDLT

15,421 posts

205 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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CraigyMc said:
BlackpoolRock said:
sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
LAD ! thumbup
I half expect to see him turning up at the IOM TT.. wink
There was a video (that I can't find frown ) of Loeb arriving at a press interview by doing a perfect stoppie on his scooter. So he's probably not bad on a bike either.

The bd.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

227 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Hard to believe WRC still has a pulse.

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

186 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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stephen300o said:
Hard to believe WRC still has a pulse.
Don't see how that squares with cancellation of the last Monte stages owing to excessive spectator presence

RX7

258 posts

243 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Trophybloo said:
Don't see how that squares with cancellation of the last Monte stages owing to excessive spectator presence
Monte Carlo Rally with Seb Loeb entered, if its not going to be busy there, its got no hope.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

225 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Didn't Valentino Rossi have a go in an F1 car as he was thinking of going in that direction. Apparently he was pretty quick out of the box and i don't doubt for one second he has a big enough pair of cojones.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

197 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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I just wish he'd done his final season in anything other than a Citroen. Whilst he's clearly an incredible talent, he should have done a Rossi and gone for winning two WCs on two different machines. Now his swap may have been a Ducati or a Yamaha, but I think he played it too safe. How much was Loeb and how much was the car?

jamespink

1,218 posts

203 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
Please don't try and tell me that's not exactly what you would do if you were in his shoes? I just don't get the sniping here. He is a world class sportsman, no one comes close, he is young and healthy, why the hell not enjoy yourself? There are hundreds of non deserving footballists living it large for a few years!

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

215 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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EDLT said:
There was a video (that I can't find frown ) of Loeb arriving at a press interview by doing a perfect stoppie on his scooter. So he's probably not bad on a bike either.

The bd.
hehe

chevronb37

6,471 posts

185 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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rhinochopig said:
I just wish he'd done his final season in anything other than a Citroen. Whilst he's clearly an incredible talent, he should have done a Rossi and gone for winning two WCs on two different machines. Now his swap may have been a Ducati or a Yamaha, but I think he played it too safe. How much was Loeb and how much was the car?
Not much I don't think. He's beaten Sainz, McRae, Sordo, Hirvonen and Ogier in (what is purported to be) equal machinery. He's an absolute force of nature.

predding

455 posts

215 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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fatboy69 said:
Genius!

The guy is a true legend & must be the best ever.
Absolute top driver and will be in Alsace for Rally de France but....please dont forget a certain W Rohrl cool