Save Brighton Speed Trials
Discussion
I have a bit of experience with influencing local councils and my advice is this
By all means get petrolheads to sign a petition - but that won't help you much because councils aren't usually too troubled by people who didn't vote them in.
What you need is to get local BUSINESSES to back you and then get the papers on your side (easy if business are - because businesses pay for ads).
One story in a local paper about how the council is harming local trade and councillors are out on their arse - they don't want that and so...
By all means get petrolheads to sign a petition - but that won't help you much because councils aren't usually too troubled by people who didn't vote them in.
What you need is to get local BUSINESSES to back you and then get the papers on your side (easy if business are - because businesses pay for ads).
One story in a local paper about how the council is harming local trade and councillors are out on their arse - they don't want that and so...
moffspeed said:
Crazy guys on road bikes, 90 year-olds on Vincents who were only a couple of seconds or so off the top end pace, Jim Tiller on (rather than in) the Allard, all the F5000 big bangers and, naturally, the Vebra Chevrolet...the smell of fish and chips mixed with Castrol R and a touch of ozone. That pause at the end of each Top 10 run as we waited for the time to flash ..
Summed up for me perfectly 
My god I remember that Vebra Chevrolet and Jim Tiller is still there every year...Been going for the last 27 odd years, fantastic historical event that has no sane reason to be stopped.
Ah, Castrol R, the smell of it...
ridds said:
I suspect a lot of it is due to the retarded Green party that are running the town and roll on the next local elections so the residents of Brighton can get rid of them.
Hopefully if it does get cancelled it will only be until the new councillors get in.
I suspect that it's got bugger all to do with 'Elf n safety and ALL to do with a mis-guided green agenda Hopefully if it does get cancelled it will only be until the new councillors get in.
CanAm said:
I drove into Brighton today for some last-minute Christmas shopping. Never again.
What with their bus lanes, 20mph limit, one-way streets, blocked off streets, no right turns, no left turns (for no apparent reason) and ridiculous traffic light phasing, I have never known such a motorist unfriendly town. If you don't know your way around, ( which I don't) navigation is an absolute nightmare.
Completely agree...never again. I'll visit/ hotel/shop/eat/drink elsewhere.What with their bus lanes, 20mph limit, one-way streets, blocked off streets, no right turns, no left turns (for no apparent reason) and ridiculous traffic light phasing, I have never known such a motorist unfriendly town. If you don't know your way around, ( which I don't) navigation is an absolute nightmare.
I presume that the council having succeeded in banning this wonderful event will calculate the negative financial effect that the ban has on the town and reduce the business rates by a corresponding amount taking their share of the pain inflicted in the local businesses and the impact this will have on the local economy. After all we are all in it together, aren't we?!?!
I have driven in the brighton speed trials many times and attended even more than that, this reaction is due to the green party and goes hand in hand with all the other stupid ideas they have implemented since coming into power, more cyclists have died since they introduced the 20mph speed limit in the town than did before! why are they not banning cyclists? mto gp was not banned due to a death 2 years ago nor the TT, you sign a disclaimer before driving or riding pillion in any motor event, its your risk, the road surface has been unchanged for many years, the unfortunate chap who had the accident had ridden that bike in the event for many years and new how the surface was, the council could put minds at rest and make the surface safer for roughly the cost of a council lunch to discuss cyclists getting even more silly laws passed. BRING BACK COMMON SENSE.
moffspeed said:
I have a theory - the Greenies of B and H will never allow the event in its previous evil piston-engined/polluting guise to be re-born so why not re-invent it for alternative powered cars = electric/hybrid/cows dung etc. It might be a bit pedestrian for a year or two but as technology catches up I suspect we will see some seriously quick times...
Why pander to them? After this it'll just be something else. I'm sure there must be other south coast seaside towns who would welcome a little boost of tourist cash, leave Brighton to attract visitors with a yoghurt knitting festival. People may bang on about history but let history show that a popular and historic event was driven out of its location due to the warped ideology of a few misguided fools much to the benefit of one of it's more enlightened neighbours.jurbie said:
Why pander to them? After this it'll just be something else. I'm sure there must be other south coast seaside towns who would welcome a little boost of tourist cash, leave Brighton to attract visitors with a yoghurt knitting festival. People may bang on about history but let history show that a popular and historic event was driven out of its location due to the warped ideology of a few misguided fools much to the benefit of one of it's more enlightened neighbours.
It's not pandering to them, it's reality. In my ideal world F1 would be for normally-aspirated 5 Litre V16s with narrow tyres and very limited aero. However, Bernie and Co have sniffed the political air and realise that if motorsport is to survive it needs to go with the times - hence the fuel efficient 1.6 Litre hair driers that we will witness next year. My first visit to the B.S.T. was back in 1974 and I'm not sure that I've missed one since - so I have a passion for the event. I genuinely feel that by taking a subtle "alternative" approach there could be the chance of a reprieve.Incidentally Bexhill's road signs proudly proclaim that it was the "Birthplace of British Motorsport" and they used to run a speed event along the seafront - so you might have a point. Similarly Weston Super Mare......
Brighton Council take note....
The Brighton Colonnade Traders said:
In our opinion this is a traditional event that has been on the Brighton Seafront for decades. It seems rather sad that the Council has not taken into account the massive pull of money and publicity generated for the Council and all concerned.
It's an event that the public want to keep, as it is iconic and set in stone as one of the great events of the year.
It's an event that the public want to keep, as it is iconic and set in stone as one of the great events of the year.
CanAm said:
I drove into Brighton today for some last-minute Christmas shopping. Never again.
What with their bus lanes, 20mph limit, one-way streets, blocked off streets, no right turns, no left turns (for no apparent reason) and ridiculous traffic light phasing, I have never known such a motorist unfriendly town. If you don't know your way around, ( which I don't) navigation is an absolute nightmare.
I am guessing you havent attempted to drive into, or through, Oxford....What with their bus lanes, 20mph limit, one-way streets, blocked off streets, no right turns, no left turns (for no apparent reason) and ridiculous traffic light phasing, I have never known such a motorist unfriendly town. If you don't know your way around, ( which I don't) navigation is an absolute nightmare.
moffspeed said:
It's not pandering to them, it's reality. In my ideal world F1 would be for normally-aspirated 5 Litre V16s with narrow tyres and very limited aero. However, Bernie and Co have sniffed the political air and realise that if motorsport is to survive it needs to go with the times - hence the fuel efficient 1.6 Litre hair driers that we will witness next year. My first visit to the B.S.T. was back in 1974 and I'm not sure that I've missed one since - so I have a passion for the event. I genuinely feel that by taking a subtle "alternative" approach there could be the chance of a reprieve.
Incidentally Bexhill's road signs proudly proclaim that it was the "Birthplace of British Motorsport" and they used to run a speed event along the seafront - so you might have a point. Similarly Weston Super Mare......
I agree entirely with you however the greens are generally motivated by ideology and the internal combustion engine simply doesn't fit in with that. They won't be happy until it's a purely EV/hybrid event so in a couple of years something else will come up that the council will use as a big stick to beat the event with. Everyone will moan and complain, petitions will be signed, and the event will carry on minus the vehicles with the highest CO2 emissions. A couple of years later rinse and repeat. Incidentally Bexhill's road signs proudly proclaim that it was the "Birthplace of British Motorsport" and they used to run a speed event along the seafront - so you might have a point. Similarly Weston Super Mare......
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