Rd2 btcc Donington park

[Allyc85]

Just seen the Turkington/Shedden incident, and while I dont agree with a race being won by going through the gravel, I dont think Shedden did anything wrong. He got marginaly ahead in the braking zone, they touched once and between the apexs Shedden tries to turn in again and Colin is there so they colide again meaning they both go though the gravel.

Before any one cries fan boy I am more of a Turkington fan, and was dissapointed to see him lose

[37chevy]

VX Foxy said:

"It's a job like any other"

LoL! What planet are you on!! This is a hobby for rich boys...nothing more. 'Insensitive' !! PMSL!!

Well for young lads like Sam they are trying to make a career out of it just like any of us....if they feck up they won't make a successful career out of it. Just because you may not see them make it to f1 they can make a career out of racing in other ways like driver instruction etc.. But only of they are pretty successful.......hense my argument stands....I don't think you will find many people in formula ford who are rich boys doing it as a hobby!

[Rib]

Just caught up with it and don't agree with sheddon getting the place, if I remember rightly he was leading plate a year or 2 back, defended well and left no room to get by, braking earlier and earlier, caughtbplato out and he bashed up up the arse and sheddon went ballistic and got the position reversed. I know it's not exactly the same but turkington had the inside line, yes sheddon had overtaken on the brakes but he would have never made the corner so that's just bks. He never had any intention on making that corner.

[DanielSan]

Allyc85 said:

Just seen the Turkington/Shedden incident, and while I dont agree with a race being won by going through the gravel, I dont think Shedden did anything wrong. He got marginaly ahead in the braking zone, they touched once and between the apexs Shedden tries to turn in again and Colin is there so they colide again meaning they both go though the gravel.

Only watched the race today, was at Donington yesterday but down at the Old Hairpin for the last race. I'd agree with the above post, but as a Honda fan I was delighted with the result

[MG CHRIS]

Rib said:

Just caught up with it and don't agree with sheddon getting the place, if I remember rightly he was leading plate a year or 2 back, defended well and left no room to get by, braking earlier and earlier, caughtbplato out and he bashed up up the arse and sheddon went ballistic and got the position reversed. I know it's not exactly the same but turkington had the inside line, yes sheddon had overtaken on the brakes but he would have never made the corner so that's just bks. He never had any intention on making that corner.

But plato who hit shedden didn't even attempt to avoid a collision and got the place via contact. This time both shedden and turks where side by side turks made contact first and both went across the gravel so both went of track and gained an advantage, shedden was also alongside and slightly ahead at the point both went off.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like shedden.

[emicen]

Rib said:

Just caught up with it and don't agree with sheddon getting the place, if I remember rightly he was leading plate a year or 2 back, defended well and left no room to get by, braking earlier and earlier, caughtbplato out and he bashed up up the arse and sheddon went ballistic and got the position reversed. I know it's not exactly the same but turkington had the inside line, yes sheddon had overtaken on the brakes but he would have never made the corner so that's just bks. He never had any intention on making that corner.

If your selective memory would like a bit more help, Shedden pulled the exact same move at the chicane in race 2, but Turkington on that occasion didn't act the fud and clatter him and both made it through the corner fine, keeping it on the black stuff.

The Plato in to Shedden incident is completely irrelevant. Plato locked up straight in to the back of Shedden firing him straight on. We'll ignore the video replays showed he "locked up" with all 4 wheels still rotating.

[VX Foxy]

37chevy said:

VX Foxy said:

"It's a job like any other"

LoL! What planet are you on!! This is a hobby for rich boys...nothing more. 'Insensitive' !! PMSL!!

Well for young lads like Sam they are trying to make a career out of it just like any of us....if they feck up they won't make a successful career out of it. Just because you may not see them make it to f1 they can make a career out of racing in other ways like driver instruction etc.. But only of they are pretty successful.......hense my argument stands....I don't think you will find many people in formula ford who are rich boys doing it as a hobby!

Well, you're entitled to an opinion but if 'your argument' is that it's a job like any other then that's just bull!
What's the cost of a season in FF?

[37chevy]

VX Foxy said:

Well, you're entitled to an opinion but if 'your argument' is that it's a job like any other then that's just bull!
What's the cost of a season in FF?

Circa 100k probably, but it doesn't mean they're rich!....just means good sponsors or a lot of debt!

[VX Foxy]

37chevy said:

Circa 100k probably, but it doesn't mean they're rich!....just means good sponsors or a lot of debt!

And the rest...!

The former does not exist outside of friends and family and the latter would surely require substantial assets. Either way, anything on the TOCA package is for rich boys.

[TobyLaRohne]

I think it was great racing! The last corner was a bit naughty but as both went off you can't really say much. Had turkington kept it on the black stuff he'd have won the race via appeal, no doubt.

Isn't it great there is alot to talk about at least?!

[Rib]

Have to say I am loving this season so far, so many great drivers, not just the former champs but some great looking youngsters, Tordov is looking like a seasoned pro most of the time, hard to believe its only his 2nd season!

[Evo]

Rib said:

Just caught up with it and don't agree with sheddon getting the place, if I remember rightly he was leading plate a year or 2 back, defended well and left no room to get by, braking earlier and earlier, caughtbplato out and he bashed up up the arse and sheddon went ballistic and got the position reversed. I know it's not exactly the same but turkington had the inside line, yes sheddon had overtaken on the brakes but he would have never made the corner so that's just bks. He never had any intention on making that corner.

That's racing for you, Sheddon did a very clever move by putting himself rightly so in a position were Turkington would be the one who made the contact.

Yes it was very scrappy but I also think well thought out by Sheddon.

[VX Foxy]

Rib said:

hard to believe its only his 2nd season!

He does have a little experience...


2013 British Touring Car Championship
6th Overall - 1 win, 5 Podiums, 1 Fastest Lap
BRDC SuperStar
KX Akademy Member

2012 Porsche Carrera Cup GB
3rd Overall - 4 wins, 8 Podiums, 1 Fastest Lap
11th Porsche Supercup - Silverstone Grand Prix
BRDC Rising Star

2011 Porsche Carrera Cup GB
7th Overall - 1 Podium, 1 Fastest Lap
20th Porsche World Cup - Nurburgring Nordschleife
15th Porsche Supercup - Silverstone Grand Prix
Porsche Carrera Cup Scholarship Finalist
BRDC Rising Star

2010 British Touring Car Championship
Brands Hatch Indy - Rounds 28/29/30
Qualifying: 8th
Round 28: 17th
Round 29: 11th
Round 30: 10th

2010 Renault Clio Cup
3rd overall - 2 wins, 12 podiums, 4 fastest laps, 1 new lap record (Oulton Park)
Graduate Cup Winner
BRDC Rising Star

2009 Renault Clio Cup
8th UK Championship - 1 Win, 1 Pole Position, 3 Podiums, 1 Fastest Lap
2nd Winter Championship -1 Win, 2 Pole Positions
2nd Belgium Championship - Zolder

2008 KF1/KF2
KF1: 6th 'Super One' National Championship
KF2: Finalist - World Cup, La Conca, Italy

2007 ICA/KF2
ICA: 1st 'Super One' National Championship
KF2: 25th Winter Cup, Garda Italy
9th Italian Open Masters, Val Vibrata Italy

2006 ICA/Senior Rotax
ICA: 13th 'Super One' National Championship
14th 'Copa des Campiones' Vendrell, Spain
Rotax: 2nd MBKC Winter Series Championship
7th 'Gold Cup', Three Sisters

2005 JICA/Junior Rotax
JICA: 5th ABKC 'O' Plate, Three Sisters
Rotax: Pole Position 'A' Final ABKC 'O' Plate, Larkhall
7th 'Gold Cup', Three Sisters
10th 'Kartmasters' Grand Prix, PFI
8th 'Rotax Cup', Three Sisters
5th European Rotax Max Challenge, PFI
7th European Rotax Max Challenge, A1 Austria
14th 'Super One' National Championship

2004 Junior Rotax
3rd 'Gold Cup', Three Sisters
21st 'Super One' National Championship (partly missed due to injury)

2003 Junior Rotax
18th 'Super One' National Championship
15th ABKC 'O' Plate, Shennington
12th 'Kartmasters' Grand Prix, PFI

2001 Honda Cadet
1st Lincolnshire Kart Club Championship
3rd South Yorkshire Kart Club Championship

2000 Honda Cadet
10th 'Honda Challenge' National Championship

[Rib]

well duh I know that but there's plenty of other new guys with experience of similar age who don't show the kind of 'experience' that he does.

[Kinkell]

Evo said:

That's racing for you, Sheddon did a very clever move by putting himself rightly so in a position were Turkington would be the one who made the contact.

Yes it was very scrappy but I also think well thought out by Sheddon.

Gordon Shedden, the canny Fifer fae Dunfermline

[VX Foxy]

Rib said:

well duh I know that but there's plenty of other new guys with experience of similar age who don't show the kind of 'experience' that he does.

Maybe, but perhaps they don't have the funds to afford a drive with 888?

[Evo]

Kinkell said:

Evo said:

That's racing for you, Sheddon did a very clever move by putting himself rightly so in a position were Turkington would be the one who made the contact.

Yes it was very scrappy but I also think well thought out by Sheddon.

Gordon Shedden, the canny Fifer fae Dunfermline

Loving your profile picture, now that's how to get round a corner with style, fast in, slow out ha ha

[MG CHRIS]

UA have a new shell coming from gprm also have stripped all the parts of the crash damaged james cole car. Suspect to see both cars out for thruxton.

[mattsayle]

Not a bad weekend for me!! I managed to capture the whole Shedden-Turkington incident as seen on BTCC.net, autosport.com, this very webite oh and the front page of both Motorsport News and Autosport!!

http://www.btcc.net/2014/04/23/photo-special-turki...

Here are 7 other images from Donington.

Team shot
1.


Chocks away
2.


Dark. Wet.
3.


4. Cars everywhere


5. Decent racing


6. Wet


7. The eyes have it...


Cheers,

[Emeye]

Looking at these photos, http://www.btcc.net/gallery/albums/2014/turkington... I'd suggest Shedden made no attempt at all to make the corner, but Turkington initially seems to try to make then corner but then decided to follow him through the gravel.

Having been a Massive btcc fan during the 90s, this to me seems to just take the piss and puts me off bothering to watch again. I wonder how this would be dealt with in F1?