"Accessible motorsport" whinge
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Centurion07 said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
zac510 said:
it does seem like a snobby barrier to entry.
Snobby? How is it snobby? Don't you see that by having categories / brackets like this the organisers are stopping somebody turning up with the thickest chequebook you've ever seen and building some kind of all-conquering monster?In fact, having categories is all about making comppetetive motorsport accessible to anybody who can be 'bothered' to just spend fifteen minutes thumbing through the regs.
BritishRacinGrin said:
Centurion07 said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
zac510 said:
it does seem like a snobby barrier to entry.
Snobby? How is it snobby? Don't you see that by having categories / brackets like this the organisers are stopping somebody turning up with the thickest chequebook you've ever seen and building some kind of all-conquering monster?In fact, having categories is all about making comppetetive motorsport accessible to anybody who can be 'bothered' to just spend fifteen minutes thumbing through the regs.
That said, it seems like they're missing a trick not running an open class since it may attract people, like the OP, to have a go who then may get into it enough to actually build/buy a car that DOES conform to one class or another.
Edited by Centurion07 on Sunday 6th July 19:13
zac510 said:
Many people have that level of commitment for a track day so they could be doing a timed hillclimb event instead.
Trackdays aren't timed. Again, 'motorsport'. Of course you can't just rock up and compete in anything. It has to be safe enough first and foremost, then it needs to be fair for the other competitors. If the OP isn't actually interested in 'motorsport' and doesn't want to bother with it (and the subject heding is a misnomer), then there are RWYB events at a number of places. Not hillcliming for some reason though (probably because of the perceived danger of allowing somebody who has done no car prep, holds no license, wears no safety gear etc to cane their car up a narrow twisting road on somebody's private property).
BritishRacinGrin said:
He does though. He wants to take part in a hillclimb. The title says 'Motorsport' in it.
I just meant "motorsport" in terms of "driving event on a closed course as opposed to driving on the public road".Someone finally gets what I mean, anyway - I don't want to compete, I just want to have a go, like a RWYB track day/drag strip day. I may want to compete at a later date if I find I really enjoy it! And of course I'd be perfectly happy to try and comply with rules if I wanted to join in a championship or the like.
The closest we've found is a hillclimb school training day at Shelsley Walsh, which will let us have a couple of blats up the hill without worrying about any categories or the like. But it's a bit expensive to do more than once, due to the tuition etc.
Over 10 years ago I used to do 'run what ya brung' at drag racing a couple of times, mostly street cars turned up (before you judge, I did roundy-round too!). Of course none of us were setting track records nor were we interested; we just created our own 'classes', fastest for a particular car model, or fastest between this group of mates but most often we were just racing ourselves, trying to improve the last time after some modifications. We didn't care what FTOD was.
Whilst its not hillclimbing, but sprinting (hillclimbing for people with vertigo?), the Toyota Sprint Series would permit your MR2 assuming its a Toyota V6, and your friends MX5 would be permitted in the Class 'X' for non-Toyotas. Cheap, cheerful, fun and friendly...
Edited by norwichphoto on Tuesday 8th July 15:02
How about one of these days?
http://www.prescott-hillclimb.com/driversschool.as...
or get a load of mates toether and organise a "corporate day" ie have the track to yourself.
Or here, its a bit more than you wanted to pay but you get at least 10 runs on the day
http://www.gurstondown.org/gurston-hillcimb-school...
http://www.prescott-hillclimb.com/driversschool.as...
or get a load of mates toether and organise a "corporate day" ie have the track to yourself.
Or here, its a bit more than you wanted to pay but you get at least 10 runs on the day
http://www.gurstondown.org/gurston-hillcimb-school...
nickboazracing said:
Just do trackdays??? Not bothered about competing, want to thrash your car legally, want to use your existing car... to me that is what trackdays are for...
It's the second sentence FFS!owenK said:
I quite liked the idea of having a go in our own cars, it's much more appealing to me than a track day - the point-to-point nature and elevation change plus a narrow road and no need to worry about hitting anybody really ticks my boxes!
Centurion07 said:
nickboazracing said:
Just do trackdays??? Not bothered about competing, want to thrash your car legally, want to use your existing car... to me that is what trackdays are for...
It's the second sentence FFS!owenK said:
I quite liked the idea of having a go in our own cars, it's much more appealing to me than a track day - the point-to-point nature and elevation change plus a narrow road and no need to worry about hitting anybody really ticks my boxes!
Did a few runs a couple of years in the Boxster up Prescott during the Revival. You could also do training days which are available at a lot of the hills.
TBH I did two runs in the Boxster & decided I was starting to get competitive, despite not being a timed event. The scenery is very close & hard & Boxsters cost big money to fix......
TBH I did two runs in the Boxster & decided I was starting to get competitive, despite not being a timed event. The scenery is very close & hard & Boxsters cost big money to fix......
Centurion07 said:
nickboazracing said:
Just do trackdays??? Not bothered about competing, want to thrash your car legally, want to use your existing car... to me that is what trackdays are for...
It's the second sentence FFS!owenK said:
I quite liked the idea of having a go in our own cars, it's much more appealing to me than a track day - the point-to-point nature and elevation change plus a narrow road and no need to worry about hitting anybody really ticks my boxes!
Do a track day at Cadwell Then
N.
OwenK said:
A friend and I went to spectate Prescott Hill Hillclimb the other day and really enjoyed it. I quite liked the idea of having a go in our own cars, it's much more appealing to me than a track day.
OwenK, please can I apologize for the attitude of some of the people posting here. I think it's fantastic that you are considering hill-climbing as I think we should all be encouraging others that have shown an interest to participate with us, whether it is for competition, camaraderie or whatever their reasons. I would definitely go back to Erics first post (TurboClan) and follow his advice. There are lots of motor clubs that organize sprints and hill-climbs (sprints can be great fun too). I would also recommend checking out the uphill racers forums, and going to some more events. I hope we haven't put you off!
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