NASCAR driver kills competitor on track.

NASCAR driver kills competitor on track.

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Wollcage

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481 posts

210 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-1/article/...

Tony Stewart causes crash, opponent gets out to remonstrate and ends up being hit and killed. Doesn't look good.

Graphic link.
http://deadspin.com/reports-tony-stewart-ran-over-...

TobyLaRohne

5,713 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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WOW, what a wreckless thing to do, getting out of his car and running into the track is the last thing he should have done, it looks like the driver who hits him swerves towards the guy but I think its actually when he hits him the driver going under the wheels jerks the steering that way.

ETA: Sounds like, from the witnesses, the driver nailed the throttle (probably intending on covering the guy on track in gravel), but actually hit him with the cars back wheel.


Edited by TobyLaRohne on Sunday 10th August 09:22

MyVTECGoesBwaaah

820 posts

141 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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A silly thing to do , getting out the car to protest at Stewart.

However, completely indefensible actions by Stewart. It does look as if he speeds up before hitting him

Kawasicki

13,041 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Both think they are in the right, neither back down, someone dies. Sounds like a typical "accident".

vinnie01

863 posts

118 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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sadly thats how it is in Oval racing there is often a physical confrontation or 'discussion' after race ending contact reckless by Stewart not to slow down though..

RogerVulva

1,130 posts

189 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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horrible to watch. Surely there is going to be serious actions for Stewart. Apparently he still plans to race at Watkins Glen.

The Moose

22,821 posts

208 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but chappy did pretty much the worst thing you can do.

As is quoted on a lot lf other threads "Darwinism" I'm afraid to say.

Thoughts with his family however.

TobyLaRohne

5,713 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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The Moose said:
I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but chappy did pretty much the worst thing you can do.

As is quoted on a lot of other threads "Darwinism" I'm afraid to say.

Thoughts with his family however.
Pretty much sums it up.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

197 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Christ frown

BarbaricAvatar

1,416 posts

147 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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The title of the topic is misleading. It should say something more along the lines of "Moron decides to protest accident by walking down the track during race - The world's down a dumbass".

Really, WTF kind of mentality does it take to not recognise that at the best of times these aren't the most manoueverable cars?
I have no sympathy for people who do such idiotic things.

37chevy

3,280 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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BarbaricAvatar said:
The title of the topic is misleading. It should say something more along the lines of "Moron decides to protest accident by walking down the track during race - The world's down a dumbass".

Really, WTF kind of mentality does it take to not recognise that at the best of times these aren't the most manoueverable cars?
I have no sympathy for people who do such idiotic things.
Yup it was dumb, but tony didn't exactly slow down for the yellow and try to avoid him.....

...yellows mean slow down and be prepared to stop, not rev the car next to the other driver, getting the tail out and killing him....tony should have been going slow enough to be able to control his car and avoid the driver

GrahamG

1,091 posts

266 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Lots of experts it seems!

Dimly lit track, black race suit, black helmet, Stewart following another car around that jinks to the left to avoid the guy on the track, and Stewart is behind - the witness saying it was a deliberate act was a friend of the deceased, the Police, per last report, say no charges are currently being filed.


darreni

3,759 posts

269 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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GrahamG said:
Lots of experts it seems!

Dimly lit track, black race suit, black helmet, Stewart following another car around that jinks to the left to avoid the guy on the track, and Stewart is behind.
Plus driving a 650-100bhp twitchy car on a dirt track.
Very sad for all involved.

longshot

3,286 posts

197 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Just a thought after watching the video but the driver on the track starts running away from the car just before the contact and then you hear the engine rev and he appears to steer to the right.
I wonder if Stewart could see he was going to hit him and was trying to drift the back end away from hitting him.



Edited by longshot on Sunday 10th August 12:19

team underdog

938 posts

228 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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GrahamG said:
Lots of experts it seems!

Dimly lit track, black race suit, black helmet, Stewart following another car around that jinks to the left to avoid the guy on the track, and Stewart is behind - the witness saying it was a deliberate act was a friend of the deceased, the Police, per last report, say no charges are currently being filed.
Add wire mesh "windscreen", so also dirt on visor. Stewart would of known the car was stranded at the side but not expecting the driver, dressed in black as you say, to be walking into the path of oncoming cars.

This in-car footage shows how much visibility there would have been;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqMbVgLnxFA


Bradgate

2,819 posts

146 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Ward was incredibly reckless in getting out of his car and walking across the track while the race was still in progress, but judging by the video on youtube, Stewart appears to make no effort to slow down or take evasive action. That is only one view of the incident from one angle, however.

It doesn't look good for Stewart.


storminnorman

2,357 posts

151 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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I cannot comprehend why he got out - these cars race in very low grip conditions and lose traction easily.
But, you cannot look past the fact that Tony Stewart has much more experience in racing than Ward did - thus, the former's perceived actions are equally indefensible. Two drivers making mistakes, and one lost their life.

entropy

5,403 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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darreni said:
GrahamG said:
Lots of experts it seems!

Dimly lit track, black race suit, black helmet, Stewart following another car around that jinks to the left to avoid the guy on the track, and Stewart is behind.
Plus driving a 650-100bhp twitchy car on a dirt track.
Very sad for all involved.
The track immediately went yellow after the Ward hit wall because the cars slowed up.

Ward gets out of his car and moves closer and closer to the inside of the track

All cars take the inside line as usual but Stewart appears to aim at Ward; Stewart is renowned for being a hot head in NASCAR.

However witnesses in a YT video description say Stewart swerved into Ward http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qILmIyG6qno

BrownBottle

1,365 posts

135 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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entropy said:
The track immediately went yellow after the Ward hit wall because the cars slowed up.

Ward gets out of his car and moves closer and closer to the inside of the track

All cars take the inside line as usual but Stewart appears to aim at Ward; Stewart is renowned for being a hot head in NASCAR.

However witnesses in a YT video description say Stewart swerved into Ward http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qILmIyG6qno
It sounds as though he hits the throttle twice, first at 33secs then lifts off and hits the throttle again almost immediately.

Perhaps trying to intimidate the guy on track?

storminnorman

2,357 posts

151 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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BrownBottle said:
It sounds as though he hits the throttle twice, first at 33secs then lifts off and hits the throttle again almost immediately.

Perhaps trying to intimidate the guy on track?
Certainly appears to be an attempt to 'buzz' him