RE: Motorsport on Monday: 1/9/14

RE: Motorsport on Monday: 1/9/14

Monday 1st September 2014

Motorsport on Monday: 1/9/14

Mercedes machinations and goodbye to a rallying legend



"Re: Time off for good behaviour" read the subject heading of the email editor Dan sent me a little over a week ago. No Motorsport on Monday for the bank holiday last week just so happened to coincide with one of the most interesting and potentially pivotal races of the F1 season so far. But actually, waiting a week to report on the Hamilton-Rosberg tangle at Spa has given us time to absorb and analyse the fallout from that lap two incident.

And here's the disclaimer: this is my view on it. It is not necessarily right, as it's not totally clear cut. Others may have different opinions, this is just how I saw/read it.

Rosberg went on to take second at Spa
Rosberg went on to take second at Spa
Our survey says...
Fundamentally, for me, Rosberg was in the wrong. Given his position in the championship and his shocker of a start from pole, he must have been feeling the pressure as Hamilton had the opportunity to streak away at the front and potentially claw back some of his championship deficit.

Pretty much the first rule of motorsport is not to take out your teammate. In a world where sponsorship is king, and the brands slapped over the side of your car are used to getting plenty of airtime over a weekend, to shunt both cars down the order from a silly mistake can be costly financially.

But was it a mistake? Answers to this particular survey in the comments please. In the debrief in the immediate aftermath, Rosberg was claimed to have said he hit Hamilton on purpose to prove a point, with Mercedes later backing Hamilton's claims on Twitter saying they were "broadly correct."

I don't think that point was to teach him a lesson - not by trying to force him down the order or out of the race, anyway. Rosberg is cleverer than that.

You know what's coming...
You know what's coming...
He's raced open wheel formula cars all his life. He knows contact is a no-no. Maybe he meant to give Lewis a little kiss as a gentle reminder that he won't wilt and is not a pushover when it comes to proper racing.

I feel Lewis's move was totally fair. It was his corner, Rosberg had plenty left to do around the outside at Les Combes - not the most common passing place at Spa or even at that corner, anyway - and Hamilton was well within his rights to open the steering slightly and squeeze Nico into submitting. Only Rosberg didn't.

It's these situations that show us how drivers deal with pressure. And after half a season pretty much losing out to Lewis in wheel-to-wheel action (in the actual proper racing battles they've had on track), I think Rosberg wanted to try and assert his authority as championship leader. The rest, as they say...

Fallout
That wasn't the worst part though, as front-wing-to-rear-wheel racing incidents happen pretty often. In fact, there were a few more during the very same race. So why was the Merc transgression so different to the others?

"Totally unacceptable" was the official line
"Totally unacceptable" was the official line
Again, for the reasons above about teammates tangling, that both cars are one and two in the championship, and that it was lap two. But even worse was the aftermath - it wasn't exactly the behaviour of a future world champion from Rosberg.

Hamilton was understandably aggrieved, giving a candid post race interview. He didn't really moan, but dropped a few clever comments putting the ball firmly in Rosberg and the team's court.

Which is why when we first heard Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda describe the incident as "totally unacceptable", it was unsurprising to hear both had been briefed on the party line.

Rosberg backed himself into a corner, publicly and privately. Stuttering and stammering and searching for answers in interviews proved, to me at least, there was an element of blame to be apportioned for what under other circumstances would have been dismissed as a racing incident.

He was angry, which is probably why he said what he did in Mercedes' not-very-private private meeting. To me it smacked of a toddler's defensive stance - the only way it knows how to bat off comments aimed at it is by attacking others.

Hamilton is now 29 points behind Rosberg
Hamilton is now 29 points behind Rosberg
Team orders
There are no team orders in F1 this year, according to Mercedes - except when it orders Rosberg to pay a hefty fine to say sorry. That won't bring Lewis's lost points back, however.

You wouldn't have thought a team would need to brief its drivers not to go panel bashing on the first few laps, but it seems crazy that scenario wasn't mentioned and diffused before it ever happened.

Rosberg says he has moved on and has "apologised for his error of judgement." Quite. Hamilton says he can still work with Rosberg - I get the feeling it's only so he can get the satisfaction of beating him to the title after all the adversity with reliability he's faced this year. He's 29 points adrift with seven races to go, which has teed the finale to the championship right up.

I mentioned earlier in the year it had the potential to be a Senna-Prost-esque battle. More so than I first thought. Casio Triangle at Suzuka, anyone?

Farewell to a legend
Farewell to a legend
Bye bye Bjorn
The squabbling in F1 rather pales into insignificance next to news that Swedish rally legend Bjorn Waldegard passed away this week, however.

Winner of the 1979 WRC title, Waldegard drove some of the most revered rally cars ever throughout his career: the Lancia Stratos, Ford Escort RS1800, Porsche 911 S and Toyota Celica were just a few animals he managed to tame and entertain in, usually very sideways.

RIP Bjorn. A great loss to rallying and motorsport in general.

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Discussion

Pugsey

Original Poster:

5,813 posts

213 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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'Bye Bye Bjorn' should have come first - not second, as almost a foot note to a petty spat. Perhaps PHs will devote more space to him later?

R.I.P. and thanks for the memories.

VladD

7,853 posts

264 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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MG John's going to be mad at you. It's already been worked out on the other thread that Hamilton clearly reversed in Rosberg and that MG John won £500 for betting that it would happen.

Only joking John. wink

Turbobanana

6,159 posts

200 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Pugsey said:
'Bye Bye Bjorn' should have come first - not second, as almost a foot note to a petty spat. Perhaps PHs will devote more space to him later?

R.I.P. and thanks for the memories.
I doubt I would have written my sentiments any better than you, sir.

1980's + Welsh Forests + Bjorn Waldegaard (and others) = Happy Days.

250GTE

120 posts

118 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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A Childhood hero passes, RIP Super Swede !

In other news; children have a spat

Wkotuning

44 posts

154 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Completely Agreed with all the comments in this article, fair assessment of the race. Lets just hope Lewis gets a fair crack at the rest of the races and they can both race wheel to wheel for the rest of the season. I was impressed with Lewis's statement after the event see link below: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/8/1627...


......and his fantastic way of letting off steam a week later, hahahahahaha legend:
http://wtf1.co.uk/lewis-hamilton-zonda-monaco/

simonpeter

188 posts

158 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I agree, the story should be about the loss of Bjorn. A gent, as are his contemporaries Hannu, Ari and Walter.
A marked contrast to the petulant over paid egotists we call GP stars. As above example.

garypotter

1,483 posts

149 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Personally I have had enough of Lewis throwing his toys out the pram when it does not go his way, Rosberg may have taken out Hamilton as a mis judgement/error/on purpose but he is still at the top of the tree in the drivers championship and I can see these 2 coming together a few more times by the end of the season.

Everything Hamilton has done this Year Rosberg has matched or come a close 2nd.
LH is the quicker driver but you need more than a quick 1 lap to win races and championship.

Any rally driver of the 80's is a hero imho controlling the lancia's, escorts etc always so exciting for the viewing public. RIP

Europa1

10,923 posts

187 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I agree with previous posters regarding Hamilton's post-race statement - I thought it was a far more measured, mature performance than any of his previous interviews after other post-race/qualifying incidents.

P4ROT

1,219 posts

192 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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The Rosberg/Hamilton crash looked like a genuine mistake to me; I certainly don't think it warranted all that booing- that was pretty shameful tbh... (I hope there were no Brits involved rolleyes)

As much as I like Hamilton (I think he's a good bloke bloke and the skills he has behind the wheel can't exactly be ignored), I do get a bit fed up when he finishes and looks like he's about to cry. I know it's important to him, but he has a tendancy to act like a 12 year old. At Spa Martin Brundle said he "wears his heart on his sleeve"- you don't say LOL

sayermd

4 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Sad to hear about Bjorn,I had the immense pleasure to watch him win the Safari rally in a RS1800 and a 911,now thatwas proper rallying

cho

927 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Wkotuning said:
Completely Agreed with all the comments in this article, fair assessment of the race. Lets just hope Lewis gets a fair crack at the rest of the races and they can both race wheel to wheel for the rest of the season. I was impressed with Lewis's statement after the event see link below: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/8/1627...


......and his fantastic way of letting off steam a week later, hahahahahaha legend:
http://wtf1.co.uk/lewis-hamilton-zonda-monaco/
I think that was more to remind him what an F1 car is supposed to sound like!

Ahonen

5,015 posts

278 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Why wasn't the passing of Bjorn Waldegard the main section of this piece? The first ever World Rally Champion and truly one of the old masters, yet Pistonheads comments on his death as an afterthought following an article about a race that took place a week ago. Nice one.

Wkotuning said:
I was impressed with Lewis's statement after the event see link below: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/8/1627...
That's a press release. There can be a big difference between a driver signing off a press release written by a professional copywriter and what a driver says when he has to think for himself.

VladD

7,853 posts

264 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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garypotter said:
Everything Hamilton has done this Year Rosberg has matched or come a close 2nd.
Rosberg is yet to beat Hamilton in a straight fight this year.

Lewis has had more than his share of bad luck this year, but he's also made a lot of mistakes, especially in qualifying. If he can eradicate the mistakes and be more lucky with reliability then I think he's still favorite for the title. That's a big "if" though.

darkgrey

6 posts

114 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Is anyone planing to make a bet on this event?