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gtidriver said:
Why didn't Prost go help Heidfield.
I'd have thought any decent fellow would have wanted to see him out the car before strolling off... oh hang on it's a prost..Don't understand this forumla, if it's about developing the tech then surely you'd set basic regs governing battery size/weight/longevity and let teams & partner suppliers develop the motors, batteries, energy management and recovery etc. As it stands it's just another spec series with some eco-hogwash branding.
hairyben said:
I'd have thought any decent fellow would have wanted to see him out the car before strolling off... oh hang on it's a prost..
Don't understand this forumla, if it's about developing the tech then surely you'd set basic regs governing battery size/weight/longevity and let teams & partner suppliers develop the motors, batteries, energy management and recovery etc. As it stands it's just another spec series with some eco-hogwash branding.
Pretty sure I read that the first season is spec. From second season onwards it is a formula series.Don't understand this forumla, if it's about developing the tech then surely you'd set basic regs governing battery size/weight/longevity and let teams & partner suppliers develop the motors, batteries, energy management and recovery etc. As it stands it's just another spec series with some eco-hogwash branding.
Blayney said:
Pretty sure I read that the first season is spec. From second season onwards it is a formula series.
Yep from next year teams can develop their own cars, which is when the organisers hope range and performance will improve though I don't know how they will regulate this. I don't think any regulations have been released to the public about next yeardesignndrive62 said:
Blayney said:
Pretty sure I read that the first season is spec. From second season onwards it is a formula series.
Yep from next year teams can develop their own cars, which is when the organisers hope range and performance will improve though I don't know how they will regulate this. I don't think any regulations have been released to the public about next yearThey really need to sort out the "dentist's drill" sound of the motors though - I had a headache afterwards. I'd also like to see ITV very quickly drop the awful background music during replays.
Prost was totally in the wrong. Chuckled at the post race interview when he said it was Heidfelds fault !
Interesting tactics with the pitstops and Heidfeld going slower than the max speed to ensure he met the overall pitstop time. I can see a minimum pitlane speed being introduced to stop it being taken to the extreme. Good thinking though.
The racing was a bit `meh` to be honest. Coverage was naff with cameras zooming in out and in again, didn`t really get a sense of any speed. Agree with the previous posters, they`d look really slow on a `proper` circuit, but seem to suit the street circuits. Hopefully technology will develop and they`ll get more power and increase speeds. As it is, I`ll watch the race on fast forward for a bit and see if it improves.
Interesting tactics with the pitstops and Heidfeld going slower than the max speed to ensure he met the overall pitstop time. I can see a minimum pitlane speed being introduced to stop it being taken to the extreme. Good thinking though.
The racing was a bit `meh` to be honest. Coverage was naff with cameras zooming in out and in again, didn`t really get a sense of any speed. Agree with the previous posters, they`d look really slow on a `proper` circuit, but seem to suit the street circuits. Hopefully technology will develop and they`ll get more power and increase speeds. As it is, I`ll watch the race on fast forward for a bit and see if it improves.
designndrive62 said:
Regiment said:
If they really cared about electric racing, they'd have cars with the choice of all wheel drive and all wheel steering, no rules when it comes to batteries and 1 car per driver with the race having to last 30 minutes, which increases to 90 minutes as the years go on, forcing innovation with charging tech and battery tech. Formula 1 cars look the way they do because they need to have an engine, a gearbox, driveshafts, etc, you get none of those requirements for electric cars so why do they look like a champ car?
If they cared about racing, the idea of giving a driver an unfair advantage based entirely around their twitter followers would have been laughed off the planet and clean into orbit.
The organisers have showed me nothing at all that interests me, from the technology to the racing.
I agree with your comments about the aesthetics of the cars, they have missed an opportunity to create a unique car with the change to electric power trains. I don't know how open the rules are for next year when the teams are allowed to develop their own cars or if the rules will be quite restrictive?If they cared about racing, the idea of giving a driver an unfair advantage based entirely around their twitter followers would have been laughed off the planet and clean into orbit.
The organisers have showed me nothing at all that interests me, from the technology to the racing.
designndrive62 said:
Blayney said:
Pretty sure I read that the first season is spec. From second season onwards it is a formula series.
Yep from next year teams can develop their own cars, which is when the organisers hope range and performance will improve though I don't know how they will regulate this. I don't think any regulations have been released to the public about next yearWell it's different, not everyone's cup of tea but it'll get better.
I was left thinking OMG at that last corner crash, what a t
t Prost is.
Edited to say the reason I was so appalled was the horrific similarities to the way Greg Moore's accident ended.
I was left thinking OMG at that last corner crash, what a t
t Prost is.Edited to say the reason I was so appalled was the horrific similarities to the way Greg Moore's accident ended.
Edited by Mojocvh on Saturday 13th September 19:11
That crash was pretty intense, that track was bloody awful, Marshall's seemed pretty slow, the programme itself was shocking! I didn't see the credits, was that Lewis Hamiltons little brother or something? Hated the drama music, adverts in the middle of the race, As for the racing, I thought it was pretty good! Will defiantly keep watching, might see if I can find a stream from somewhere else, I defiantly get the feeling that it will get better.
Getting sick of this "I need to see the replay before I comment" stance...
You were right there, you caused it, Like Rosberg at Spa. very frustrating.
I translate it as "need to watch the video so I can see how blatant it was, and how I might spin it on YouTwitFace"
Although I have seen his apology tweet and Nick's acceptance tweet.
You were right there, you caused it, Like Rosberg at Spa. very frustrating.
I translate it as "need to watch the video so I can see how blatant it was, and how I might spin it on YouTwitFace"
Although I have seen his apology tweet and Nick's acceptance tweet.
Just watched this and had to fast forward it was so lame.
Slow, poor - sorry irritating - noise, stupid, stupid pit stop idea, only excitment was the crash at the end.
I will not be watching again and I watch all motorsport from BTCC, Moto GP, F1 etc.
It will be off the TV before the end of the season and then it will die a death - I'll put money on it.
Slow, poor - sorry irritating - noise, stupid, stupid pit stop idea, only excitment was the crash at the end.
I will not be watching again and I watch all motorsport from BTCC, Moto GP, F1 etc.
It will be off the TV before the end of the season and then it will die a death - I'll put money on it.
Saw the last few laps of this earlier, and now watching the v8 saloons race from the Goodwood revival, flat earth society or not, a massive part of motorsport is the noise, and a dentists drill isn't and never will be a replacement for a V8 growl, smooth straight 6 or a high revving 4 pot.
Wow - it's so lame.
It's so slow - really slow.
I don't actually believe the KM figures they're showing but even if they're correct it's 100mph top speed and a corner speed of less than 30mph. It's milk float racing.
Don't get me started about the pit stop
It's ill thought out - technology isn't ready. And if they want this to work they need to play music to fill the dentist drill sound instead. Perhaps take the Grand Tourismo soundtrack and use that.
Please - stop this waste of money, resources etc etc - it's killing the planet.
It's so slow - really slow.
I don't actually believe the KM figures they're showing but even if they're correct it's 100mph top speed and a corner speed of less than 30mph. It's milk float racing.
Don't get me started about the pit stop
It's ill thought out - technology isn't ready. And if they want this to work they need to play music to fill the dentist drill sound instead. Perhaps take the Grand Tourismo soundtrack and use that.
Please - stop this waste of money, resources etc etc - it's killing the planet.
I'm willing to keep an open mind on it. I think the fact that they have managed to convince many cities, including London, to host a street race is something to be applauded.
It's in its first season. It's going to have some teething problems.
Hopefully they will respond swiftly to the shortcomings and we'll see rapid evolution.
It's in its first season. It's going to have some teething problems.
Hopefully they will respond swiftly to the shortcomings and we'll see rapid evolution.
Hmmm.. Not sure. It has potential and will certainly develop. I don't want to write it off at this stage.
It did appear slow, but in reality it won't be that slow. Anyone expecting F1 type speeds for now are a bit optimistic.
The presentation of the show needs to develop a lot faster than the cars! The highlights program really was a let down. Franchitti really isn't much of a commentator.
The noise isn't too inspiring. The pit stops need to look a bit more dynamic. (Is there minimum pit lane time?).
Lots of room to improve.
It did appear slow, but in reality it won't be that slow. Anyone expecting F1 type speeds for now are a bit optimistic.
The presentation of the show needs to develop a lot faster than the cars! The highlights program really was a let down. Franchitti really isn't much of a commentator.
The noise isn't too inspiring. The pit stops need to look a bit more dynamic. (Is there minimum pit lane time?).
Lots of room to improve.
re: the pit stops
I can see that they introduce an element of "range anxiety" and strategy that "real" pitstops also have - choosing to drain the batteries on your 1st car more quickly and then take it more easy on your second car. So I can understand the decision to do this rather than two separate sprint races.
However, they do look absolutely ridiculous. Especially pulling into a gazebo and hopping out in there.
I can see that they introduce an element of "range anxiety" and strategy that "real" pitstops also have - choosing to drain the batteries on your 1st car more quickly and then take it more easy on your second car. So I can understand the decision to do this rather than two separate sprint races.
However, they do look absolutely ridiculous. Especially pulling into a gazebo and hopping out in there.
DS240 said:
Hmmm.. Not sure. It has potential and will certainly develop. I don't want to write it off at this stage.
It did appear slow, but in reality it won't be that slow. Anyone expecting F1 type speeds for now are a bit optimistic.
The presentation of the show needs to develop a lot faster than the cars! The highlights program really was a let down. Franchitti really isn't much of a commentator.
The noise isn't too inspiring. The pit stops need to look a bit more dynamic. (Is there minimum pit lane time?).
Lots of room to improve.
It won't be that slow in reality? What was today then?It did appear slow, but in reality it won't be that slow. Anyone expecting F1 type speeds for now are a bit optimistic.
The presentation of the show needs to develop a lot faster than the cars! The highlights program really was a let down. Franchitti really isn't much of a commentator.
The noise isn't too inspiring. The pit stops need to look a bit more dynamic. (Is there minimum pit lane time?).
Lots of room to improve.
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