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Fonz

361 posts

184 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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IIRC that is where the interviews are carried out and as he is one of the drivers still in with a mathematical chance of the title they want to interview him. Plus he always promotes himself to the max which is why he has the budget to take part. There are a lot of very talented racing drivers without a drive who cannot promote themselves sat at home. You may not like it but it is one of the skills that the modern driver must possess if they want to be successful.

egor110

16,849 posts

203 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Fonz said:
IIRC that is where the interviews are carried out and as he is one of the drivers still in with a mathematical chance of the title they want to interview him. Plus he always promotes himself to the max which is why he has the budget to take part. There are a lot of very talented racing drivers without a drive who cannot promote themselves sat at home. You may not like it but it is one of the skills that the modern driver must possess if they want to be successful.
Fair enough if you finish in the top 3 but if you didn't you have no right to be there.

You can be damm sure if plato was top 3 and someone else strolled in and hogged some tv time he'd throw a strop.

Fonz

361 posts

184 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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He's in the top two of the championship. Yes I know that the podium area is for the top 3 cars in the race but still he is one of the biggest names in the championship to the casual fan. Also if AG or ITV4 do not want him there then AG can till him to "go away". I suspect that they do actually want him to give an interview.

MG CHRIS

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9,081 posts

167 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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What a surprise plato makes a move and yes made contact with turks it then opened up everything and had a great battle over the next lap or so and everyone is fking moaning again. He made 2 perfect moves on turks in race 1 and 2 and had to do that move in race 3 are nothing would of happened in the rest of the race.

Im more bored of the constant moaning, bhing about certain drivers not just on this forum but others. These threads used to be good fun during the race with good banter and after the race was good with anyalsis and a bit of piss taking each side but friendly.

This year im really struggling to be bothered creating these threads anymore.

Back to the races race 1 and 2 very close up front not much in the way of battles but this is what happens when the engines are very similar to each other brilliant moves by plato on turks surprised turks let it happen twice though. Race 3 wasn't as smart a move from plato but it had to be done and it opened up a great battle between that group which could of gone either way.

Turks that was a world class drive this weekend done everything he needed to do to negate points loss from plato. Tordoff another disappointing last race and tordoff and his family are not happy according to twitter.

Holland hope he has apologised to cole after the replays.

Honda not just this rd but since oulton park been really poor and I don't think its all down to boost, neal I truly believe has lost his drive and shedden that's another story.

Also the protons what a nightmare this season has been both have gone backwards bad decision to change engines otherwise they be mixing it in the mid field.

Really happy to see Jackson back to his self as with motorbase and good to see clark getting a good rd too. Also great rd also for bmr all 4 cars in the top 10 warren scott has done a great job with the team and can see them becoming a top team next year with smith and if menu stays on.

egor110

16,849 posts

203 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Fonz said:
He's in the top two of the championship. Yes I know that the podium area is for the top 3 cars in the race but still he is one of the biggest names in the championship to the casual fan. Also if AG or ITV4 do not want him there then AG can till him to "go away". I suspect that they do actually want him to give an interview.
It's just not a classy move.

You don't get rossi inviting himself into the podium box when he hasn't come top 3 same in f1, when was the last time you watched a driver invite himself into the box for some extra (undeserved) tv time.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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What a strange thing for someone to get their panties in a twist over!

I think the contact before the restart was by far the worst thing this weekend, yet nobody seems to have mentioned that..

p1doc

3,114 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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i like plato but thought it off what he did to turkington in last race,he admitted in earlier interview mind games are all part of racing hence the self publicity
loved the marhalls clearing up liquid off track-keystone cops eat your heart out lol
martin

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Plato's race three shunt was one of the most perfect examples of why he should have his licence torn up, shoved up his arse and set fire to.

Once the burns have healed he can ask very nicely if he can have a new one.

What he did there was not racing, it was pure thugishness of the first order and the racing equivalent of an uppercut in the scrum. You know it happens but when it so fricking obvious the powers that be have to act.


Crafty_

13,274 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Rude-boy said:
What he did there was not racing, it was pure thugishness of the first order and the racing equivalent of an uppercut in the scrum. You know it happens but when it so fricking obvious the powers that be have to act.

They haven't acted before and never will, Plato being a bit of a tt is one of the big draws of the series, he's the pantomime villain and has said as much, even that he likes the role. Basically thats all the series is - a pantomime.

AndyAlfa18

52 posts

125 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Rude-boy said:
What he did there was not racing, it was pure thugishness of the first order and the racing equivalent of an uppercut in the scrum. You know it happens but when it so fricking obvious the powers that be have to act.

They haven't acted before and never will, Plato being a bit of a tt is one of the big draws of the series, he's the pantomime villain and has said as much, even that he likes the role. Basically thats all the series is - a pantomime.
Well said Crafty.

Every Tin Top series, one make or otherwise, has this type of move weekend after weekend - it's not right, and is the biggest blight on our domestic sport, but unfortunately that's life nowadays with so many rich kids/dads funding racing with teams (and not sweating over their own cars night after night).

If you want proper racing w/o contact (by and large) then European GT racing and/or Sportscars is for you.

VictoriaYorks

974 posts

142 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Also if they'd put any punishment onto Plato then the title might not have gone to the last weekend

egor110

16,849 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Allyc85 said:
What a strange thing for someone to get their panties in a twist over!

I think the contact before the restart was by far the worst thing this weekend, yet nobody seems to have mentioned that..
No pantaloons twisted here, i prefer my racing on 2 wheels and rarely watch touring cars just struck me as strange they let anyone into the podium area regardless of where they actually finished.

egor110

16,849 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Rude-boy said:
What he did there was not racing, it was pure thugishness of the first order and the racing equivalent of an uppercut in the scrum. You know it happens but when it so fricking obvious the powers that be have to act.

They haven't acted before and never will, Plato being a bit of a tt is one of the big draws of the series, he's the pantomime villain and has said as much, even that he likes the role. Basically thats all the series is - a pantomime.
Why don't they just accept viewers like the contact aspect, so produce stronger cars that can take a hit or two.

At moment there seems to be rules for certain drivers and the rest are driving to a different set.

Be interesting what matt neal does net year, i used to live near donnington so watched him in touring cars from the start, on the other hand would any gt team take the risk of having him drive for them.

Crafty_

13,274 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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egor110 said:
Why don't they just accept viewers like the contact aspect, so produce stronger cars that can take a hit or two.

At moment there seems to be rules for certain drivers and the rest are driving to a different set.

Be interesting what matt neal does net year, i used to live near donnington so watched him in touring cars from the start, on the other hand would any gt team take the risk of having him drive for them.
The reason that some drivers get away with it is because Gow wants them in the series. If they get pushed out interest wanes. I don't know whats gone on with Neal this year, barring what I read in this thread - whats pissed him off to (allegedly) make those comments ?
I would have thought that he and the family have enough money to buy him a GT seat if thats what he wanted ?

If Neal is right and Honda do leave Team Dynamics could continue, use this years cars, get some pay drivers in to fund a foray in to GTs.
What I'm amazed at is that MG are continuing, I would have thought it blatantly obvious that the investment isn't really paying back, its not like there has been an upturn in their cars on the street.

egor110

16,849 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Crafty_ said:
egor110 said:
Why don't they just accept viewers like the contact aspect, so produce stronger cars that can take a hit or two.

At moment there seems to be rules for certain drivers and the rest are driving to a different set.

Be interesting what matt neal does net year, i used to live near donnington so watched him in touring cars from the start, on the other hand would any gt team take the risk of having him drive for them.
The reason that some drivers get away with it is because Gow wants them in the series. If they get pushed out interest wanes. I don't know whats gone on with Neal this year, barring what I read in this thread - whats pissed him off to (allegedly) make those comments ?
I would have thought that he and the family have enough money to buy him a GT seat if thats what he wanted ?

If Neal is right and Honda do leave Team Dynamics could continue, use this years cars, get some pay drivers in to fund a foray in to GTs.
What I'm amazed at is that MG are continuing, I would have thought it blatantly obvious that the investment isn't really paying back, its not like there has been an upturn in their cars on the street.
If honda leave he'd be mad to continue in the honda after spending the year claiming it's not quick enough, surely he'd run bmw 1 series if they have the advantage.

Are say some brands (ford focus) cheaper to run than others, in bsb the kawasaki is very competative and cheap to repair in the event of a crash compared to the yamaha,ducati and bmw's which makes it attractive to team bosses.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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p1doc said:
loved the marhalls clearing up liquid off track-keystone cops eat your heart out lol
martin
Especially when the broom handle snapped and I believe Dave Bartrum took the broken bit off him....biglaugh

Northern_Monkey

373 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Something of interest after the weekend: http://www.insidebtcc.com/winners-losers/

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Northern_Monkey said:
Something of interest after the weekend: http://www.insidebtcc.com/winners-losers/
Those RWD really are dominating everything winkhehe

As for Honda, there was a story on Autosport the other day, saying they are keen to continue with Dynamics smile

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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AndyAlfa18 said:
Well said Crafty.

Every Tin Top series, one make or otherwise, has this type of move weekend after weekend - it's not right, and is the biggest blight on our domestic sport, but unfortunately that's life nowadays with so many rich kids/dads funding racing with teams (and not sweating over their own cars night after night).

If you want proper racing w/o contact (by and large) then European GT racing and/or Sportscars is for you.
The problem is that the BTCC is rightly or wrongly one of the premier series. People see Plato and Neal knock yet another car into the long grass, without a murmur, and they think that this is the way to do it. Thus it feeds down to the driving standards elsewhere.

FWIW I drop in on the BTCC to see the programme as much as to see the races. My heart is with BGT/BES/LM, and to a degree F1, although I love all motorsport. I do think that bangers should stay at Foxhole or Yarmouth Stadium.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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egor110 said:
Why don't they just accept viewers like the contact aspect, so produce stronger cars that can take a hit or two.
I invite you to stand trackside for an event or two. Not somewhere wossie like Silverstone but a proper place like Hollywood at Donington, Riches, Bombhole or Coram at Sent, almost any corner at Coombe, I could go on... and say that.

In a non contact sport I reckon it's about one a year on average I have to run or get splattered.