Meadows Cleans Up in Carrera Cup

Meadows Cleans Up in Carrera Cup

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spyderman8

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Monday 29th September 2014
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Michael Meadows made a clean sweep of the points in this weekend’s Carrera Cup GB races at Silverstone, taking two wins and two fastest laps to bolster his chances of winning the Championship for 2014. Backing up the Dunlop MSA British Touring Car Championship, Carrera Cup features a grid of identical and very strictly scrutinised Porsche 991 Cup cars – new for this year – so its all down to driver skill (and a little luck) to making it to the podium.



Cleveland-based Redline Racing, who run both Josh Webster and Spaniard Victor Jiminez have already taken the team title – for the sixth time in 12 seasons of Carrera Cup GB.

Josh Webster, Paul Rees and Victor Jiminez all qualified within a second of Meadows’ time but the Londoner led from lights to flag in both of the weekend’s races. Paul Rees will step up to the Porsche Mobil1 Supercup, one of the support races for FIA Formula 1, later this season having experienced their pace at the Le Mans 24 earlier this year.



Emmerdale star Kevlin Fletcher took both Pro Am 2 titles, although his win over the Pro Am 1 winner in Race 2 was down to Jordan Witt falling foul of track limit regulations, incurring a 5-second penalty. Fletcher opted to fit new tyres for Sunday’s race which put him to the back of the grid but that only seemed to spur him on, posting a 1/2 second better fastest lap than in Race 1 – not bad considering he didn’t test on Friday. These were Fletcher’s last races of the season.



Jordan Witt won the Pro Am 1 category in both races. Josh Files was the guest driver in the number zero car, run by Team Parker Racing.



The Championship concludes at Brands Hatch in two weeks.

Adrian W

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Monday 29th September 2014
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Racing for the participants, not the spectators, sorry but Porsche cup is mind numbing to watch.

belleair302

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207 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Did you see how well Josh Files did? Current Clio Euro and Uk Champion, first time in a Carrera Cup act and came 4th in race 2. Well done that boy!!

zeb

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218 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Adrian W said:
Racing for the participants, not the spectators, sorry but Porsche cup is mind numbing to watch.
I have to agree, this year, very poor fayre

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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zeb said:
Adrian W said:
Racing for the participants, not the spectators, sorry but Porsche cup is mind numbing to watch.
I have to agree, this year, very poor fayre
It's been a bit like that for a few seasons now. It might be better with much shorter races, easier to keep interested and might inject some urgency into the proceedings.

spyderman8

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Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Well things might change next year.

wildman0609

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I've always enjoyed carrera cup because the cars are great and they make a good noise, but they need to get back to their roots.
The 996 Cup car was £74k+ VAT, just a tad more than a 996 GT3 road car, the new 991 is about £200k+VAT, no wonder the grid is small when the cars cost quarter of a million, a 3 year old SRO GT3 car is the same price and most drivers with budget will get one of those and do some endurance racing, Barcelona 24hr, dubai etc.

Porsche needs to build a cayman race car for circa £75k, and race it at a national level, they would get full grids then, and sell a shed load. and keep the 991 supercup for the grand prix support.

spyderman8

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Carrera Cup grids are significantly bigger in other countries. Porsche insist on the series only hosting the most recent version of the GT3 Cup, which I personally think is a mistake. The Cayman is already homolgated for GT4. There are other series the 996 and 997 Cup can run in.

Adrian W

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228 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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when it was 996's and larger grids it was exciting, proper close racing, I watched them at Snetterton and Brands, the current series seems like follow the leader on most tracks, I don't know how many races have been won by the pole sitter. but i bet it is most of them

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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spyderman8 said:
Well things might change next year.
Why?


andy97

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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spyderman8 said:
The Cayman is already homolgated for GT4.
I thought that this was done by a Dutch or Italian team as a private venture and that Porsche withdrew/ refused to support the venture?

A mistake in my view as the model needs a boost. I agree with Wildman.

wildman0609

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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andy97 said:
I thought that this was done by a Dutch or Italian team as a private venture and that Porsche withdrew/ refused to support the venture?

A mistake in my view as the model needs a boost. I agree with Wildman.
the cayman was a dutch one, but they were selling it for 110k euros + VAT which is mental.

If porsche did a cayman for £75k, very basic, just no interior and a cage, seat and safety gear, they'd sell loads of them, and we can have a nice national championship like the old turbo cup or the early days of the supercup

944turbo cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x448cdKWoEg
964 supercup, when the leaders did rallycross instead, mad
http://youtu.be/l14d54j28PQ

spyderman8

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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andy97 said:
I thought that this was done by a Dutch or Italian team as a private venture and that Porsche withdrew/ refused to support the venture?

A mistake in my view as the model needs a boost. I agree with Wildman.
The Cayman race car that was recently listed for sale at a fraction of what it cost to create wasn't converted by Porsche. Porsche themselves had the Cayman homologated for GT4 some years ago but never (to my knowledge) actually raced any.

spyderman8

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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wildman0609 said:
If porsche did a cayman for £75k, very basic, just no interior and a cage, seat and safety gear, they'd sell loads of them, and we can have a nice national championship like the old turbo cup or the early days of the supercup
As you may recall GT3 Cup Challenge, specifically for older (albeit water cooled) Cup cars was a failure and was dropped in the UK. You can already race a Cayman in Porsche Club, 750MC and (I believe) CSCC races.

wildman0609

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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you miss my point. yes you could go race an older one if you want, but they still have expensive running costs, due to seq boxes and exotic materials where they're not really required.

If Porsche knocked out a low cost mass produced factory race car, they'd sell bucket loads and the grids would be full.

I don't want to race a cayman becuase I can't afford to develope one properly. whereas if porsche developed them (and spread their costs over 100+ cars) I would.

What I'm really saying is the current cup car costs way too much money, and should be around £75k.

andy97

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Wednesday 1st October 2014
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wildman0609 said:
If porsche did a cayman for £75k, very basic, just no interior and a cage, seat and safety gear, they'd sell loads of them, and we can have a nice national championship like the old turbo cup or the early days of the supercup
Agreed, let's call the car, I don't know, er, the Cayman Club Sport.

spyderman8

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Thursday 2nd October 2014
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It will be interesting to see exactly what the forthcoming Cayman GT4 road car is - but it still won't be a race car.

andy97

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Thursday 2nd October 2014
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spyderman8 said:
It will be interesting to see exactly what the forthcoming Cayman GT4 road car is - but it still won't be a race car.
Agreed, but neither is the GT3 without upgrades.

I'd suggest that there is a fair amount of knowledge of what it takes to make a Boxster work as a race car now from US Spec car racing, PCGB, BRSCC, Britcar and CSCC etc that could be applied to a Cayman to make a cost effective race car for national level Porsche Cup series.

Ahonen

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Friday 3rd October 2014
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Nice press release.

designndrive62

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157 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Someone at porsche has been reading this thread!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116144