Btcc 2015

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designndrive62

743 posts

157 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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I can't work out if this means Rob austin can only run one car the rest of the year??? It says his TBL licence has been revoked for the hunter abbot car, but that it is still valid for remaining races??

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120471

This toca licence stuff is getting a bit messy now..


JZZ30

1,076 posts

115 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Janesy B said:
For a one trick (series) pony, Plato isn't even all that successful in terms of championships.
I think that's a bit unfair TBH. Not a lot of guys have won two titles.

designndrive62

743 posts

157 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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JZZ30 said:
I think that's a bit unfair TBH. Not a lot of guys have won two titles.
Admittedly using Wikipedia, I just found 15 guys have won the BTCC twice or more, which is a lot more than I had imagined it to be. I wouldnt call myself a Plato fan, but think he is one of the best drivers on the grid. As much as I don't necessarily agree with it, he uses the rules and image of the championship to his advantage and knows exactly how to play the game. It is without doubt though that he has missed out on chances to add to that tally, particularly in the SEAT years, where things never quite went right.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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designndrive62 said:
I can't work out if this means Rob austin can only run one car the rest of the year??? It says his TBL licence has been revoked for the hunter abbot car, but that it is still valid for remaining races??

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120471

This toca licence stuff is getting a bit messy now..
I don't understand that either,revoked but still valid.

Makes no sense.

Maybe they should've asked Paul O'Neill to drive it...silly

Speed Badger

2,691 posts

117 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Jason has 92 wins yet only 2 titles. I would consider that a poor return in terms of wins-championships and I'm sure it wrankles a little. However if he had won all the championships he's been in contention for he could have been a 7 or 8 time champion by now. I think if he was the driver he is now, back then, he would have won more titles due to taking less risks, driving for the win etc.

But hey, I'd rather have 92 BTCC wins, 2 titles, a nice country pad and a Porsche than be sat in an office typing this!

rscott

14,758 posts

191 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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iva cosworth said:
designndrive62 said:
I can't work out if this means Rob austin can only run one car the rest of the year??? It says his TBL licence has been revoked for the hunter abbot car, but that it is still valid for remaining races??

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120471

This toca licence stuff is getting a bit messy now..
I don't understand that either,revoked but still valid.

Makes no sense.

Maybe they should've asked Paul O'Neill to drive it...silly
The original plan was for another driver to be in the car all weekend, but funding fell through at the last minute, so Hunter stepped back in. Apparently they did ask if Simon Belcher could step in on Sunday morning, but the stewards refused.

RAR can carry on with two cars this season and, provided they make all the races, they'll keep the both TBLs next season. One is just suspended for the remainder of this one - I'm not sure they had any choice under the rules.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Speed Badger said:
But hey, I'd rather have 92 BTCC wins, 2 titles, a nice country pad and a Porsche than be sat in an office typing this!
Agreed.

Matt Neal has 3 titles and I bet that eats Plato up.

designndrive62

743 posts

157 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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rscott said:
The original plan was for another driver to be in the car all weekend, but funding fell through at the last minute, so Hunter stepped back in. Apparently they did ask if Simon Belcher could step in on Sunday morning, but the stewards refused.

RAR can carry on with two cars this season and, provided they make all the races, they'll keep the both TBLs next season. One is just suspended for the remainder of this one - I'm not sure they had any choice under the rules.
Sorry dumb moment i'm still lost.. RAR only started with two licences, one has been suspended for the remainder of the season (is that what you mean by 'one is suspended for the remainder of this one'? but they are still allowed to race two cars? Or is it like a suspended sentence and if they don't get both cars to the remaining races then the licence is revoked from next year?

airbusA346

785 posts

153 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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designndrive62 said:
Sorry dumb moment i'm still lost.. RAR only started with two licences, one has been suspended for the remainder of the season (is that what you mean by 'one is suspended for the remainder of this one'? but they are still allowed to race two cars? Or is it like a suspended sentence and if they don't get both cars to the remaining races then the licence is revoked from next year?
The latter I think. Team Dynamics got both of their TBL's suspended last year (until 31/12/15).

rscott

14,758 posts

191 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Exactly - one TBL is suspended until the end of the season, but they're allowing Hunter to race on. Without seeing the exact wording of the regs, I guess it's all they can do.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Why are the licenses even needed at the moment though? The grid isnt at capacity.

The Wookie

13,948 posts

228 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Basically it means they've lost their right to return with the car in next season and have to apply along with anyone else that wants to enter BTCC.

Frankly I'm surprised that TOCA have done this given the leniency shown elsewhere, particularly given the indisputable reason for a driver not turning up compared to some fairly spurious excuses knocking around at times!

MG CHRIS

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9,083 posts

167 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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tux said:
Why are the licenses even needed at the moment though? The grid isnt at capacity.
Apparently it was behind closed doors. There was meant to be 32 cars on the grid(3rd mg fell through at the last minute) with nick Hamilton being the 33 driver as a guest. That is why he only done half the season and missed knockhill as knockhill can only run 32 but the other tracks can run more.

It doesn't mean nothing unless they do something else ie what happened with Honda last year or the year before its a warning another problem then will become a loss of a license.


MG CHRIS

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9,083 posts

167 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Also as suspected priaulx will miss rockingham driver tba shortly.

rscott

14,758 posts

191 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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The Wookie said:
Basically it means they've lost their right to return with the car in next season and have to apply along with anyone else that wants to enter BTCC.

Frankly I'm surprised that TOCA have done this given the leniency shown elsewhere, particularly given the indisputable reason for a driver not turning up compared to some fairly spurious excuses knocking around at times!
Are you sure they've withdrawn the TBL for next year? The announcement seems to suggest it's only been suspended for the rest of this season? The post on btcc.net is so badly worded it's almost impossible to work out what they actually mean.

MG CHRIS

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9,083 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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rscott said:
The Wookie said:
Basically it means they've lost their right to return with the car in next season and have to apply along with anyone else that wants to enter BTCC.

Frankly I'm surprised that TOCA have done this given the leniency shown elsewhere, particularly given the indisputable reason for a driver not turning up compared to some fairly spurious excuses knocking around at times!
Are you sure they've withdrawn the TBL for next year? The announcement seems to suggest it's only been suspended for the rest of this season? The post on btcc.net is so badly worded it's almost impossible to work out what they actually mean.
it means its not automatically accepted for next year they will have to apply for the 2nd license which looks likely tbh. Rumours going around is a manufacture is back next year and gow/toca want a few licenses back for it.

JohnS

935 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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I enjoyed my annual BTCC fix at Knockhill. Did anyone else who attended come home with bad sunburn or was it just me biggrin

I've uploaded a few of my snaps to FB if anyone is interested (includes a few of the grid girls wink ) https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10571260...




iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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I'm not complaining but that girl has featured here already.

emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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MG CHRIS said:
rscott said:
Rumours going around is a manufacture is back next year and gow/toca want a few licenses back for it.
Nah.

darren9

986 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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RAR saying they won't run the Audi next year and are looking at other options. This is according to a piece in autosport.