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MG CHRIS

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Monday 22nd December 2014
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I have a feeling he will be at 888 with the mg. Or whatever plato is up to partnered with him. But more likely 888.

Also half the field has been announced so far

Aron smith bmr
Andrew Jordan ?
Richard hawken infiniti
Derek palmer infiniti
chris Stockton btc racing
Mike bushel amd tuning
simon belcher handy motorsport
Alex martin motorbase
Andy Wilmot welch motorsport
jeff smith eurotech
sam tordoff wsr
rob Holland audi s3
rob Austin exocet racing
Aiden moffet
Adam morgan

Honda are pretty certain to be there with the new type r and with neal and shedden. Motorbase might see gio going elsewhere, wsr still 2 seats available same as motorbase, 888 also bmr also got 3 seats still to be announced.

Can see a load of announcements over autosport international show.

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Wednesday 31st December 2014
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How are you going to run a fwd car with 500bhp or fit a v8 into a fwd car.

Apart from the 70s with the big v8 muscle cars btcc has always been about 2.0 or sub 2.0 touring car formula it has worked for 50+ years.
Increasing the races to 15 is not possible teams can only just afford 10 as it is, also where are these extra 5 races going to come from. Also scheduling the extra events btcc tries to avoid clashing with different events ie in the past with Wimbledon and the Olympics they didn't run a single meeting to avoid clashing. Also stuff like british f1 race and lemans also will be avoiding. So how are you going to fit in an extra 5 meeting and where too. Street races bore the crap out of me no thank you.

Also why the thing about comparing the btcc to v8 super cars they don't compare both have different rule sets, fan base etc etc a btcc formula wouldn't work down there and the v8s wouldn't work over here.
We have the brit gt for v8, gt racing which is growing in strength over the last few years why bring in something that will take teams out of that.

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Wednesday 31st December 2014
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AMD87 said:
MG CHRIS said:
Also stuff like british f1 race will be avoiding.
Or you know just do what the V8s do and what the btcc used to do?
What be a support package for the f1 race weekend?

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ZX10R NIN said:
MG CHRIS said:
How are you going to run a fwd car with 500bhp or fit a v8 into a fwd car.

Apart from the 70s with the big v8 muscle cars btcc has always been about 2.0 or sub 2.0 touring car formula it has worked for 50+ years.
Increasing the races to 15 is not possible teams can only just afford 10 as it is, also where are these extra 5 races going to come from. Also scheduling the extra events btcc tries to avoid clashing with different events ie in the past with Wimbledon and the Olympics they didn't run a single meeting to avoid clashing. Also stuff like british f1 race and lemans also will be avoiding. So how are you going to fit in an extra 5 meeting and where too. Street races bore the crap out of me no thank you.

Also why the thing about comparing the btcc to v8 super cars they don't compare both have different rule sets, fan base etc etc a btcc formula wouldn't work down there and the v8s wouldn't work over here.
We have the brit gt for v8, gt racing which is growing in strength over the last few years why bring in something that will take teams out of that.
I did say Turbo 4, Super?/Turbo Charged V6 N/A V8 I'm not trying to make BTCC into V8 Supercars but am merely suggesting some of the ideas like a blue riband Endurance race like Bathurst.

Also if the GT's are increasing then maybe there's lessons to be learned from them to.

As I said I'm not slagging BTCC I'm just saying if teams are struggling to do 10 races then maybe things need tweaking.

What do you think would improve BTCC you've rubbished my ideas what do you suggest?
They had a big enough headache trying to keep parity between the turbod cars and n/a powered cars during the change over, added 3-4 different layout of engines will only increase cost and cause more arguments and headaches for teams and management.

They have pretty much a perfect formula yes a few things need sorting for next year as some races last year were a bit stale. We have just come into a new generation of touring cars with the ngtc cars it will hurt the series to change again.
Small changes are required and toca have announced a few changes already. It looks like we be going to get another full grid, we have new teams joining, new drivers and new car and still have half the grid to announce plans im also sure plato has something up is sleeves with a new car too.

Gow has had all these so called good ideas asked to him over on the btcc forum from pie in the sky ideas and every time he has replied with reason not to mainly on cost grounds to teams, and scheduling issues.

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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A load of talk, opinions being posted about potential driver line up in the lead up to the autosport show guess we find out some news within the coming week.

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Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Nick foster wont be back with wsr for this year he has announced he wont be back but has had a great time in the series. He wasn't the best on the grid but could keep collard honest at times and on the right day could keep up with turks.

Jordan to mg surprise to some others have known of atleast a educated guess livery does look better than the Tesco one last year.


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Saturday 7th February 2015
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I think the majority of the remaining seats wont be announced till media day. The last couple of years there has been very little to look forward to from media day so guess gow wants to keep some surprises for the day.

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Wednesday 11th February 2015
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RAR line up stays the same but what will the cars look like.


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Friday 13th February 2015
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I think we will see plato and turks with bmr along with aron smith will be a strong team if true.

888 would be good to see tom ingram there alongside Jordan we would do well there also very quiet on the 3rd car.a

Eurotech has a spare seat be interesting to see who is there.

Motorbase Jackson should be there and with alex martin in the 3rd satalite car theres another seat there.

Team hard still unsure on drivers, or how many cars.

Rotek is looking like they wont be there and UA too.

I think we wont see many new updates until media day tbh.

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Saturday 14th February 2015
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DanielSan said:
emicen said:
The HARD Avensis is Kieren Gallagher. Been announced pretty widely.
They haven't paid for the car yet though I believe, just a deposit.
And this is team HARD. It's like the Caterham of the BTCC, until they physically on the grid and racing it's hard to believe anything that's said.
This will believe them when they are on the grid.

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Saturday 14th February 2015
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AndyAlfa18 said:
Mopar440 said:
MG CHRIS said:
I think we will see plato and turks with bmr along with aron smith will be a strong team if true.

888 would be good to see tom ingram there alongside Jordan we would do well there also very quiet on the 3rd car.a

Eurotech has a spare seat be interesting to see who is there.

Motorbase Jackson should be there and with alex martin in the 3rd satalite car theres another seat there.

Team hard still unsure on drivers, or how many cars.

Rotek is looking like they wont be there and UA too.

I think we wont see many new updates until media day tbh.
Rotek? Of course they won't be there.

Team Hard???? (Lots of question marks, no matter what they say.)

Why do you think Turkington will be with BMR? Got some insider info you'd like to share?
Turks at BMR is a done deal. Announced soon I'm sure.
No 3rd car at Motorbase, its been sold.
Team Parker driver tbc soon.
And 2nd car for AMD with surprising newcomer to BTCC.
Ive no insider info just what as been stated by others and what is looking likely. Indeed if plato and turks is with bmr alongside aron smith that will be a very strong team. Wonder if they will run the 4th for scott/menu and keep with 3.

Im guessing motorbase 3rd car will be in the hands of amd.

I cant see though menu or gio back this year.

Matt Jackson to stay with motorbase.

I think plato is just pulling peoples legs, as a few members over on ten tenths forum hate him so think hes just having fun with them.

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Sunday 15th February 2015
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DanielSan said:
Mopar440 said:
But not all the teams that were running in 2014 are running in 2015.
Some have been replaced though, Infinti have 2 cars, HARD if they turn up have another car, there's an extra Mercedes to replace a Chevrolet so that's another space that hasn't been freed up. AMD have a second car to counteract Motorbase only running 2. I'd be very surprised come the media day if all the slots aren't taken.
With the new team/cars and only 3 cars not returning so far then I think both bmr and 888 will field one less car to full fill the other spaces. We have what 20 car fully confirmed and only a few weeks till media day be interesting to see where the other drives/teams end up with. Loads of options and news still to come.

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Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Allyc85 said:
lewisbatch said:
Well, you all called it.

Plato and Turkington at BMR.
You couldn't get much more different personalities and racing styles, should be fascinating!
Agreed they have a strong driver line up this year 2 champs in the car and a hard charging multi race winner in aron smith will they run a 4th car as well.


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Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Allyc85 said:
em177 said:
MG CHRIS said:
Allyc85 said:
lewisbatch said:
Well, you all called it.

Plato and Turkington at BMR.
You couldn't get much more different personalities and racing styles, should be fascinating!
Agreed they have a strong driver line up this year 2 champs in the car and a hard charging multi race winner in aron smith will they run a 4th car as well.
Is the VW front or rear wheel drive (excuse my BTCC ignorance?)
Front smile

I believe Scott intends to run in the 4th car Chris.
Yep read that after posting that comment so plato/turks/smith/scott the strongest line up for a long time. Not bad from a guy starting out a few years ago in the seat leon.

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Wednesday 18th February 2015
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Scott drove for team hard in 2013 in the insignia the team had 2 passats built for that year and two insignia both built by thorny motorsport through 2011/2012.
Team hard/gilham business went tits up so scott bought the cars 2 passats and 2 insngias last year and the equipment.
Running menu/smith in the Passat and scott and goff in the insignias. Half way through the season they ran all 4 cars as passats the insignias being cannibalised for it.

Thats the very short version of events that I can remember.

Tbh im not that bothered about menu he along with gio didn't really do much last year apart from later on in the year but smith outclassed him throughout the year.
Plato and turks do respect each other to a certain extent so im sure they will get on fine and even with smith run in with plato back in 2012 is all under the water and smith will do well with 2 champs as team mates.

Its going to be interested to see what happens if all 3 drivers are in with contention of the title come end of the year.

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Thursday 19th February 2015
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Its suprising how alike the mg6 and Passat are in terms of overall shape.

Its going to be an interesting year as long as motorbase get on it well at the beginning of the year carrying on from last year where matt Jackson scored more points than anyone else in the last few meets they will be out assuming Jackson stays along with Honda with a known package and quick straight away.
Jordan he will have to learn the new style of car still no words on team mate.
Wsr collard should be the quickest at the early stages as he knows the car I expect him to be quick at brands hatch while tordoff will take some time learning rwd again and priaux to ngtc cars.

Honda known package same drivers if the car is good it be quick and consistent.

Bmr well the car is a race winner smith proved that last year so as he has had experience I do expect him to be the quicker driver at the first meeting with plato just behind him and turks a bit further back. Wont be till mid season turks will get more comftable with the car and be at the front so plato does need to score well at the beginning.

Eurotech well complete unknown jeff smith might nab a race win still unknowns about 2nd driver.

We have an easy 10 cars that can win races 3 wsr cars, 2 Honda, 1 mg, 3 bmr, 1/2 motorbase cars then rar is an unpredictable team can be either no where or up the front, knockhill and rockingham seems to be good tracks for them.

And a few weeks back a few people were moaning about the lack of quality of drivers and all these new drivers weren't that good.

Just need to find out the others drivers oh and UA second car and tbl is now for sale.

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Monday 23rd February 2015
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airbusA346 said:
Tordoff has annouced that he is doing ELMS with JMW Motorsport.

So two of WSR's drivers have got race clashes.
Im suspecting both will do a full 10 races, todoff will as the deal with wsr came before the sports car deal.

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Monday 23rd February 2015
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cupofbeans said:
MondeoMan1981 said:
I'm surprised Dave didn't end up somewhere more competitive, decent driver with decent budget.
He doesn't have a decent budget. Hence his constant moving around for a cut price and often subsidised deal.
This 100% the car wasn't brilliant but was plagued by the st rml engine once they swapped and got the 2 rds out of the way with low boost It did become more competitive.
With the 2nd year developing the car and a handy driver they should be up there in the top 15.

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Monday 23rd February 2015
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AMD87 said:
MG CHRIS said:
This 100% the car wasn't brilliant but was plagued by the st rml engine once they swapped and got the 2 rds out of the way with low boost It did become more competitive.
With the 2nd year developing the car and a handy driver they should be up there in the top 15.
But they aren't using the Hatch though......
True forgot about that they using moffets saloon which was a better car.

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Monday 23rd February 2015
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airbusA346 said:
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Im suspecting both will do a full 10 races, todoff will as the deal with wsr came before the sports car deal.
I'm sure if either of them had a chance of winning the ELMS GTE title, that will get priority.
Same if they had a chance in the btcc title.