The 2015 Rallying Thread

The 2015 Rallying Thread

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Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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I have pretty much given up on Uk rallying for now. Just seeing how individual events work out with their spectator control.

As with the person above there is no way I'm getting up at 5am, driving over 100 miles to be stood in the same place all day, with people who don't have a clue what they are on about. With the increasing number of spectators Rally GB could be hell if they don't allow people to roam, and they all get crammed into a pen.

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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I got the impression I could have moved if I wanted but the weather was so miserable I didn't bother. Didn't do a video either.

Wasn't The best rally I've been too anyway. Cole won in his new fiesta WRC which is no surprise really.

They had bales by the black hut by the jump after/before the triangle depending on stage direction. Half the field got it wrong and I can only assume penalties were handed out as an e36 m3 came second.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Imagine being 3km into your first WRC test, your big chance at the top level, and you do this..





Lukyanuk's bravery was brilliant in the ERC when he won Rally Estonia in an Evo, but going flat out from the start here was ridiculous. No Finland for him sadly frown



Edited by Allyc85 on Monday 27th July 22:13

Slippydiff

14,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Allyc85 said:
Imagine being 3km into your first WRC test, your big chance at the top level, and you do this..





Lukyanuk's bravery was brilliant in the ERC when he won Rally Estonia in an Evo, but going flat out from the start here was ridiculous. No Finland for him sadly frown
Can't fault his commitment though biggrin

Watched the preview for next weekend's WRC Finland yesterday. Mention was made
of Tommi M's new role at Toyota. He's apparently said he'll be heavily involved in the testing of the new car.
Those that know Tommi well know he couldn't test a light bulb. It was Lassi Lampi that was instrumental in ensuring the Mitsubishi became and remained a championship winning car for Tommi.
Furthermore Tommi liked his cars set up in a very specific manner, when Loix was forced to run with the same sprag clutch differentials as Tommi, he found the car all but undriveable.
Let's hope Tommi leaves the testing and set up duties to someone better suited to the task .....

Alex Langheck

Original Poster:

835 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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I saw a comment about Tommi being an excellent tester, and had a wry laugh. As you say, it was Lasse Lampi who did all his work. I still think Toyota or, more likely Akio Toyoda have made a mistake giving it to Tommi’s team. TMG in Cologne are more than capable of running the programme. Don’t think we’ve been told why this decision has been made.

BOBTEE

1,034 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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That's not gone well then? Stunning photo smile

RyanTank

2,850 posts

154 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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He's been to the Novikov school of rallying! wink


I braved the conditions for the flatters this year, was a very much late decision Saturday evening to attend.
I was at the Llandeilo Fan triangle, at the hay bale chicane that wasn't a chicane, depending on what notes you had I guess rolleyes I and my fellow marshals spent more time putting re-taping the bales up that the set up crew issued us with a second roll of tape!!

I feel sorry for the spectators that didn't make it out on the belief that they'd be penned in, the reality was you could roam as you pleased, but as long as it was safely. When I moved to man a section of centre road in the afternoon I was more than happy to have people outside the pens, but on the banking behind the culverts to the side of the road, as was spec safety.
Unfortunately tho, not all marshals and events will be as lenient as this and its very much a "go and find out" situationist.

I was led to believe that the MSA was heavily scrutinising the flatters and as such the spectator controls were introduced.

A win for Cole out in the new Fiesta, although its not really a challenge when your the only one running a current gen WRC spec car wink
Cracking drive by the guy in the E36, although I hear his times were heavily questioned.
Loving the Proton Millington's more and more thumbup

A little vid shared of the event (not mine). I'll be sorting mine and post up over the weekend hopefully - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6-CDxgZKt0

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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The Millington protons are awesome.

Sounds like some spectators have let the rest of us down massively. Guys doing the clean up have found one building used for a party and another as the toilet with graffiti and a dead sheep.

RyanTank

2,850 posts

154 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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that's a shame! it wont be long before all MOD buildings are locked up when an event is on.
Sometimes that brief respite from the rain between runs in a building is a godsend up there! especially as it means you don't have to strip down out of wet weather gear to sit in the car or to soak the seats by not stripping down.

And I don't think I need to express how welcome a clean/dry toilet block is after a dodgy 'rally breakfast' wink

Alex Langheck

Original Poster:

835 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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You’ve raised a good point. Depending on the organisers you are free to roam, providing it’s sensibly. Problem, as some of the above posters have made; travelling from afar only to find out you’re stuck in the same place all day.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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It's not just the spectators that need controlling on Epynt hehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a086eE5qGSY&in...

Glad to hear about the common sense marshalling remaining on Epynt. Couldn't believe it when TV wasn't allowed up a stage 90 minutes before it started on the Plains!!!

RyanTank

2,850 posts

154 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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the Wyedean has been dropped from the BTRDA

Forest of dean website said:
A victim of success


The Forest of Dean motor club would like to make it very clear they are bitterly disappointed to be dropped from the BTRDA championship for 2016 both in the reasoning of the BTRDA committee to drop the Wyedean event and critically the way in which the decision has been made.

After running one of the most popular events in the series for 30 years the club feel let down and disappointed especially after the hard work done by Phil Turley the clerk of the event from day one.

For the future:

The FODMC waited until its annual general meeting to discuss the events of past month and it is quite clear that many members are positive about future rallying in the Forest of Dean. The club do intend to run the event next year with hopefully the support of other championships in the hope that the true popularity of the event can be measured. When, and in what format will be decided shortly, another statement will follow.

The FODMC would like to wish the BTRDA championship all the best for 2016.
many people on facebook and that are putting it down to the utter knobbish behaviour of spectators and 'media' from this years event.

GravelBen

15,686 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Sounds like an action packed shakedown at the Finnish GP... Neuville off, Breen off, Ogier almost off.

Slippydiff

14,830 posts

223 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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GravelBen said:
Sounds like an action packed shakedown at the Finnish GP... Neuville off, Breen off, Ogier almost off.
Not surprised, the pace looks massively impressive this year.
AM clearly wanting to show SO be means business :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eu5zH5BhEAY

Alex Langheck

Original Poster:

835 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Think the advice for spectators is to stand well back. There maybe a few cars flying off the road.....

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Top work by the Hyundai and Peugeot mechanics, to get Neuville's and Breen's cars looking like new for the 1st stage tonight!

Ogier leads Meeke, tomorrow will be interesting with no service till the evening!

Alex Langheck

Original Poster:

835 posts

129 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Well, with no midday service, that's just decimated the field. I understand the Endurance aspect, but having no service means you can have a minor problem but have to carry on with it. Meeke has a driveshaft problem, meaning he's got 3WD for the rest of the day. Game over for a podium.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Rally GB secures funding for the next 3 years, and shouldn't be replaced by a Chinese round.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120225

Alex Langheck

Original Poster:

835 posts

129 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Seems good news, I suppose. One question; are they actively seeking out a commercial sponsor? Or can't they attract one? Do they want to attract one? Have we seen the last of Kielder, Dalby, Scotland in the WRC?? I fear we have.

Putting my cycling hat on, the Tour of Britain knows it can't cover the whole of the country in a week, so makes sure it visits as much over 2-3-4 years; which gives everyone a chance to see the event. That is what RallyGB should be doing. I'm not sure there is the will.

RyanTank

2,850 posts

154 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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I think for as long as the Welsh Assembly Government are willing to fund the rally then it'll stay in Wales. I dont know if the Scottish Gov has the ability, or backing, to put in the £2 Million a year that the assembly do to keep it in Wales.
There's certainly no incentive for the crooks in the houses of parliament to arrange a rally in England.

I don't know exactly where else it can be held to get the access to as many stages as they do in Wales to fall in line with the regs regarding service park. and I mean this as in I've no idea how close Keilder is to other stages, never ventured that far.

Perhaps if RedBull Media got their fingers out of their arses and marketed the WRC better and made it more accessible to watch and WRGB charge less to attend the event then there may be the chance of a title sponsor along the lines of Network Q coming back in and having a say on where it runs. This could also depend who's pockets are being lined by it all in MSA HQ too wink

One thing I am confident of though is that its going to stay based in the north for as long as it can as spectator numbers are increasing all the time.