The 2015 Rallying Thread
Discussion
Alex Langheck said:
At the moment, and with 2, well 1 & a bit of a day left, VW hold that 1-2-3.
Also, only 1 live stage for the event. Pretty poor from organisers/ promoters....Has any explanation been given? I mean it's only 2015, we used to get 1 live stage on the RAC 20-30 years ago.
Not sure it's the fault of the organisers, I've just got back from the event, the organisation of the rally makes Wales/GB look comical.Also, only 1 live stage for the event. Pretty poor from organisers/ promoters....Has any explanation been given? I mean it's only 2015, we used to get 1 live stage on the RAC 20-30 years ago.
We spectated on 9 stages over the three days (and drove through Dhrontal to recce it) For the record,it took us approximately 30 minutes to drive it in our Vauxhall Insignia rental car, Latvala did it in just over 9 minutes... Access to every stage was laughably easily. Our pass cost 69 euros for the three days, entry into the each car park a further one euro. Our longest walk was to a hairpin in Stein and Wein at 6.30 yesterday morning that took ten minutes. The weather was perfect.
As I've said on here previously, spectating on European rounds of the WRC is SO much more fun/pleasant/easier than watching the UK round these days. Photos of the event to follow, but will be a couple of weeks at least.
The Meeke situation is difficult, he looked more committed than Ostberg on the stages, but that seems to have come at a price this year. I'd be amazed if A : Loeb comes back. B: Citroen continue in the WRC next year.
Matton is showing typical French bias towards Lefebvre, no real surprise there (and in all honesty Lefebvre did look very quick on yesterday's stages) If Citroen don't renew Meeke's contract, it would be great if he could walk into a drive with the VW motorsport 2 team alongside Andreas Mikkelsen and repeat what Seb Ogier did with VW after Citroen showed similar bias towards Seb Loeb a few short years ago ....
GravelBen said:
What happened there?
Hope this link works as the only place I can get the video is via a facebook grouphttps://www.facebook.com/victoriamyers57/videos/o....
Basically John Indri and a Judge of Fact have a long standing dispute and in this instance he submitted a report that stated John had intentionally aimed his rally car at him and the marshal's at this junction, a junction that had been changed after recce for whatever reason so should have been the left turn the drivers took, and they all had to dive for their lives not to be struck. The same JOF tried to have John excluded the night before for something.
The marshals are standing in that junction in front of the red and white junction box tape. The JOF is standing next to them, without a tabbard to identify himself. as he is only judge of fact he should be in a safe spectating area. and the marshals should not be stood in that junction. There is a photo of them all stood in front of the junction, if I find it I'll post it.
My view on the video is that John is correcting a slide in his notoriously twitchy RWD Darrian, and probably had in his head from the recce the original route was a left there. I don't believe he has recognised that one of the people in the group is the JOF that dislikes him, or that he'd intentionally aim his rally car at a group of people just to scare one muppet.
RE: WRC Germany -
I believe Meeke is really at the moment the only driver capable of challenging a truly pushing JML & SO. Give him a Polo and I think he'd be up there in the mix. Mikkelsen for the good driver he clearly is, is being flattered also by the superior Polo. Stick him and Meeke in the same car for a shoot out and my money would be on Kris, despite Mikkelsen's experience with the car.
The difference in the cars is obvious too. Ford may have the pace if they had an old head in the car. Imaginer if they could put the likes of Delacour/Panizi/Sarrazin in a Fiesta and have them battle it out I think they'd have a better result.
I think the Citroen team want a French driver back in the team as its good PR and better for them to have a home driver in a home car. they'd appeal more to home fans that way, however given that the Citroen brand of the PSA company is going more upmarket with the DS range it wouldn't surprise me if they pulled out and came back a season or two later under the Peugeot badge. the have after all got the 208gti model. Citroen doesn't currently market a hot hatch. I don't think the DS3 Sport is one.
The TV coverage I only really saw the PowerStage. I couldn't understand why they showed so much onboard action of Kubica, practically the whole stage I think, then snapshots of the rest
. I'm beginning to despise Jon Desborough and his commentating style the more I hear him. I actually muted the TV and had the WRC Radio app playing instead.Is this situation in the REIS tarmac championship being fueled by the dwarf in a Fiesta AGAIN ? Plain to see Indri comes out of the chicane and briefly lines up for a left before correcting himself via amended notes , did he really get excluded for this ?????????????
I'm mostly out of the loop nowadays being in the frozen North , but competed in this championship for many years and this scenario is bang out of spirit , shame it's come to this .
I'm mostly out of the loop nowadays being in the frozen North , but competed in this championship for many years and this scenario is bang out of spirit , shame it's come to this .
Edited by fttm on Tuesday 25th August 04:23
Edited by fttm on Tuesday 25th August 05:36
VW starting to test their 2017 car..
https://t.co/t2QcedITBj
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/63613726...
https://t.co/t2QcedITBj
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/63613726...
From Planet Marcus :
http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/gall...
With VW already testing their 2017 car, the rest really don't stand a chance, it's the Mercedes F1 effect being replicated in the WRC.
http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/gall...
With VW already testing their 2017 car, the rest really don't stand a chance, it's the Mercedes F1 effect being replicated in the WRC.
fttm said:
Is this situation in the REIS tarmac championship being fueled by the dwarf in a Fiesta AGAIN ?
Why whoever could you mean 
He's upgraded to a full Fiesta WRC now, you know just to make sure he has the best car against 10 yr old wrc cars and R5 spec cars 
(he demolished the Focus on a gravel round, been getting his ass handed to him there).
he's no stranger to crying about not getting his way, Mudflap gate with Melvyn Evans is a prime example! And there was more to his sponsorship of the series than "saving it".
Indri did indeed get excluded for that, as unfortunately a Judge of Fact's submission is not appealable. The organisers took his statement as fact and excluded Indri. Not sure if the decision was made before Indri was able to submit video evidence.
Indri hasn't competed in the championship since the Manx, and he got points on his racing licence for it too, but is out on the Mewla in a S14 Impreza. As good as it was to see his Darrian smashing around the stages, it was never going to be beating the 4wd cars. especially if the stages went wet as they often are.
in other rallying news - Gigi Galli is entering the World Rallycross championship with Kia in a Rio derived car
facebook video link here- https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1015292633150...
facebook video link here- https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1015292633150...
Mate stables his car at Melvyns so know all about the mudflap fiasco . Then short arse built the MK2 and I thought he was maybe making an attempt to humble himself , which he did well for a while , now it appears he's back to his old tricks of buying championships or his dummy gets thrown out of the pram ,FFS . Asked some rally mates on s
tbook for the story but nothing has been forthcoming , guess their comp license means more ? Miss the events but not so much the MSA(BS). Said mate is out on the Mewla so will tap him up ,just sours the whole aspect rallying IMHO .
tbook for the story but nothing has been forthcoming , guess their comp license means more ? Miss the events but not so much the MSA(BS). Said mate is out on the Mewla so will tap him up ,just sours the whole aspect rallying IMHO .Mewla was good anyway.
Here's the DSR Motorsport BMW M3 Compact getting nice and sideways
https://youtu.be/0FZ5LrRlDgI
Here's the DSR Motorsport BMW M3 Compact getting nice and sideways
https://youtu.be/0FZ5LrRlDgI
Couple of pictures from my local rally, the Galway Summer Rally!
Fiesta's off
Full album about 150 pictures
Fiesta's off
Full album about 150 pictures
Great vid of the Mewla Blayney. I was running start/finish down the hill from the sheds. Drivers were not happy at starting on gravel on cold tyres!
Nice to see a good finish for Indri in his Subaru. Spoke to him at the end of the last stage and he nearly chucked it off in stage " I was doing 100mph sideways towards a telegraph pole! No idea how I saved it and got here!!" Was his words at the end, laughing like a loon while his co driver looked a bit spooked
BTRDA News : a certain former series champion has put in a protest to the powers that be claiming that the Metro 4M4 of Simon Mauger is running to the same spec as it was in its Group B days and there for is illegal and shouldn't be in the championship, I would have thought being a techno guru and having the recourses that he does he's be aware that is current gen WRCar is faster than a Group B machine over the stages these days.
Nice to see a good finish for Indri in his Subaru. Spoke to him at the end of the last stage and he nearly chucked it off in stage " I was doing 100mph sideways towards a telegraph pole! No idea how I saved it and got here!!" Was his words at the end, laughing like a loon while his co driver looked a bit spooked
BTRDA News : a certain former series champion has put in a protest to the powers that be claiming that the Metro 4M4 of Simon Mauger is running to the same spec as it was in its Group B days and there for is illegal and shouldn't be in the championship, I would have thought being a techno guru and having the recourses that he does he's be aware that is current gen WRCar is faster than a Group B machine over the stages these days.
RyanTank said:
BTRDA News : a certain former series champion has put in a protest to the powers that be claiming that the Metro 4M4 of Simon Mauger is running to the same spec as it was in its Group B days and there for is illegal and shouldn't be in the championship, I would have thought being a techno guru and having the recourses that he does he's be aware that is current gen WRCar is faster than a Group B machine over the stages these days.
How has a protest been made when the results of all championship rounds are final? Metros didn't run 4 cylinder Millingtons in the Group B days...
Simon has officially been declared champion anyway regardless of what a certain former series champion may or may not think!
No idea what's going on in the BTRDA. Just repeating something I'd been told by an official on Sunday.
Mads Ostberg had a big off on recce for Australia. Wrecked his recce Evo badly and suffered badly bruised ribs
https://www.facebook.com/MadsOstbergRally/posts/92...
Mads Ostberg had a big off on recce for Australia. Wrecked his recce Evo badly and suffered badly bruised ribs
https://www.facebook.com/MadsOstbergRally/posts/92...
Saw that, head-on with a logging truck! Whether the truck was supposed to be on that road during recce I don't know, Aussie truck drivers have a reputation for keeping the hoof down and assuming everyone will get out of their way.
Apparently Lefebvre crashed during recce too but I haven't heard any details of that one.
Apparently Lefebvre crashed during recce too but I haven't heard any details of that one.
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