Nissan LMP1 spotted testing.

Nissan LMP1 spotted testing.

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tuffer

8,849 posts

267 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Front tyres look bigger than rears?

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Think they are on the Audi aren't they?

eastlmark

1,654 posts

207 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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moffspeed said:
Anyone else thinking this could be an elaborate hoax ??
you mean that car? and then they roll out something else at Le Mans? A good plot but umlikely.... but then maybe, why test at COA if they wanted to keep it secret?

wildman0609

885 posts

176 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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DanielSan said:
Why?

Nissan have already announced the GTR-LM will be front engined, they're going to Le Mans this year so they're gona need to be testing from now to have any hope of being competitive...
they needed to be testing 6 months ago to stand a chance of being competitive.

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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wildman0609 said:
they needed to be testing 6 months ago to stand a chance of being competitive.
I'm.guessing a lot of engine longevity and simulation work has already been done though...

moffspeed

2,698 posts

207 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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DanielSan said:
moffspeed said:
Anyone else thinking this could be an elaborate hoax ??
Why?

Nissan have already announced the GTR-LM will be front engined, they're going to Le Mans this year so they're gona need to be testing from now to have any hope of being competitive...
I guess the point I was trying to make is that such an unlikely looking machine could really represent a car that a major manufacturer could be taking to the top category at Le Mans in just 5 months time - it just looks so crude. That rear wing looks near-identical to the one that I pop-riveted onto the back of my RS2000 X Pack about 3 decades ago in a vain attempt to increase rear downforce and scare myself less at Goodwood sprints.

I was fortunate enough to watch all guises of the Panoz running at Le Mans and my feet are still numb as a consequence - but the difference is that the Panozs (especially the later roadster) looked unusually right rather than unusually wrong ? I'm all for diversity particularly at a time when LMP2 cars in particular are near-identical but Nissan are clearly thinking "outside the box" in a similar way to Aston Martin a few years back - and we know where that ended. My prediction is that if Nissan rocks up at La Sarthe for the Test Weekend with a car that looks anything like this they will struggle to match LMP2 pace - come back and taunt me in June if I'm wrong !!

Final thought is that if you were to show a non-enthusiast a photo of Nissan's , Toyota's and Peugeot's (recent) LMP 1 contenders and then photos of their respective R390, TS010 and 905B efforts from the early 1990's I suspect they would choose the Gp C cars as being the more modern....but such is progress.

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Edited by moffspeed on Thursday 22 January 13:19

moffspeed

2,698 posts

207 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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2 months time ? - yes fair enough..

Justaredbadge

37,068 posts

188 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Have you tried reading the analysis on the mullsannes corner website? If not, please do.

The rear wing is a later addition because it will be running without one at lm. The car has a huge focus on that race alone as it is designed purely to minimise drag; hence the smaller rear tyres than fronts.

no point I me trying to repeat what Mike Fuller has already written.

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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moffspeed said:
I was fortunate enough to watch all guises of the Panoz running at Le Mans and my feet are still numb as a consequence - but the difference is that the Panozs (especially the later roadster) looked unusually right rather than unusually wrong ? I'm all for diversity particularly at a time when LMP2 cars in particular are near-identical but Nissan are clearly thinking "outside the box" in a similar way to Aston Martin a few years back - and we know where that ended. My prediction is that if Nissan rocks up at La Sarthe for the Test Weekend with a car that looks anything like this they will struggle to match LMP2 pace - come back and taunt me in June if I'm wrong !!

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Edited by moffspeed on Thursday 22 January 13:19
I'd be surprised if they rock up and are miles off the pace unless something is spectacularly wrong and not one incredibly clever engineer fails to spot it by then.

The Aston thing was purely their own fault, they were aware of the cars problem after qualifying and decided to not switch the parts for the heavier but more reliable alternative. Sadly their own ignorance in that case was their downfall.

Fair play to Nissan for at least doing something different though, it's certainly in keeping with the GTR-LM idea rather than just pure branding, more 98% branding hehe

moffspeed

2,698 posts

207 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Justaredbadge said:
Have you tried reading the analysis on the mullsannes corner website? If not, please do.

The rear wing is a later addition because it will be running without one at lm. The car has a huge focus on that race alone as it is designed purely to minimise drag; hence the smaller rear tyres than fronts.

no point I me trying to repeat what Mike Fuller has already written.
Thanks for that - fascinating. This genuinely excites me now. So glad that Nissan haven't produced an Audorschota clone and have done their own thing.

Massive BHP,skinny tyres and low drag body, reminds me of something from the past. Will they give Roger Dorchy a shot of brandy, tape over the cooling ducts, slot him into the car in the midst of the night and go for 400 kph ???

Edited by moffspeed on Thursday 22 January 19:39

VladD

7,854 posts

265 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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moffspeed said:
2 months time ? - yes fair enough..
I'm wondering if they learnt some interesting things during the Deltawing project and are now applying those principles to this car.

RobGT81

5,229 posts

186 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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I reckon it might give the Rebellions something to race against!

samvia

1,635 posts

170 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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From Twitter:


DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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samvia said:
From Twitter:

Changed my mind, that looks awesome.

AMD87

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202 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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VladD said:
I'm wondering if they learnt some interesting things during the Deltawing project and are now applying those principles to this car.
Well it is designed by the same guy.

samvia

1,635 posts

170 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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PW said:
samvia said:
From Twitter:

In October 2013 Oriol Folch Garcia modeled and rendered a Panoz LMP concept.

https://madfolchismad.wordpress.com/2013/10/09/pan...
Doh boxedin

In my defence, it was from a German article and my German doesn't extend far past "Ich bin zwolf jahre alt".

aycee

267 posts

160 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Talking about unable to see the apex. There may be a bit of guess work from the drivers seat as to where the front is.
Might be safer in a frontal off though

groomi

9,317 posts

243 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Just sitting watching 101 Dalmations with the kids. Reckon Cruella DeVille is a shoe in for the drive...

MiniMan64

16,899 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Nothing wrong with something new and different at Le Mans, I hope it goes well.

Covered top right?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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All P1's have to be now