2016 BTCC silly season

[btcc123]

brian394 said:

btcc123 said:

Support out Paras will not be back,Infiniti pulled out pretty quick and they have something in common with team BWR,their team principals both lied live on TV.

care to elaborate?

After race 1 Warren Scott was interviewed on ITV 4 about team orders,he said that they were going to give Aron Smith a message to let Plato and Turks past but the message never got to him.

Another poster after reading the BMR statement said "So what Warren Scott said on camera on Sunday about the messages not being passed through to Aron Smith (via in-car radio), was, simply,bks.

Then on Wednesday BMR released the following statement:

We would like to start off by confirming that during 2015 all Team BMR drivers were free to race each other. There were no team orders until the point where drivers were unable to win the Drivers’ championship. Lengthy discussions during team meetings over the duration of the weekend took place between management and drivers, and it was agreed when team orders would and should be used. An agreement was entered into by all parties that when certain scenarios arose, a clear instruction would be given to the drivers by their engineers. These instructions were to be actioned without delay.

During Race 1, clear instructions were given over the radio to Aron Smith numerous times to assist his team mates. Despite these instructions Aron did not adhere to those team requests, continuing to race and maintain his podium position, and in doing so, taking valuable points away from his teammates.

At the end of the day I think that the truth was told on TV and the statement was made up to satisfy one of their drivers.


The team Paras have two drivers Derek Palmer (son of the team principal) and Richard Hawkins who both had contracts to drive for the year.After a few races there was a bit of fuss on the internet because Richard Hawkins was saying that a few days before a BTCC race he had been told he was not driving anymore and did not know why and had been given virtually no notice.

At the next BTCC round the team principal was interviewed and he said that the driver was told two weeks ago that he would not be driving for the team anymore.This guy is seriously shifty and you get the inpression that you do not believe anything he is saying and was later established that the driver did not have any notice.

Shortly after Infinity pulled out with their backing and did not want to be associated with the team.The team brief from the beginning was that all profits would be given to help our heros but doubt they ever made a profit.

[btcc123]

acer12 said:

btcc123 said:

So a minimum of 300k is not much money to you but will get him a good drive in a BTCC team

what do you or I know about his finances or how many years commitment he can give to the BTCC?

Based on your general statement you can say the exact same thing about every driver on the grid (ie that they all have bucket loads of cash) so they can all go wherever they want including the moon

I do not know details of drivers finances or years they can commit to the BTCC but what I can tell you are some pretty accurate estimates how much it will cost a pay driver to complete in the BTCC give or take 20%.

Back third of the grid 20k per race,200k per season.

Middle third of the grid 25k per race,250k per season.

Top third of the grid. 30k plus per race.300k plus per season.

I think Andy Neate holds the record paying 650k for a season at Triple Eight.

[acer12]

btcc123 said:

I do not know details of drivers finances or years they can commit to the BTCC but what I can tell you are some pretty accurate estimates how much it will cost a pay driver to complete in the BTCC give or take 20%.

Back third of the grid 20k per race,200k per season.

Middle third of the grid 25k per race,250k per season.

Top third of the grid. 30k plus per race.300k plus per season.

I think Andy Neate holds the record paying 650k for a season at Triple Eight.

Im not disputing the costs im disputing your analysis of some drivers financial positions based on what they have paid.

Anyways this seems to be going round in circles so im out.

[zeb]

I'd like to see Jordan and jackson in the motorbase fords. Now that would be tasty......

[Allyc85]

Amd want to run 3 cars next year..

http://www.crash.net/btcc/news/224376/1/amd-tuning...

[shake n bake]

I found out today wsr are looking to run 4 cars next year with mr 1 big crash a year behind the wheel again.

[MG CHRIS]

With amd looking to run 3 cars, wsr to 4, eurotech to 3, team hard to 2 there seems to be either to many cars for spaces or a few teams will be leaving there's not many spare spaces left. Infiniti don't look like they be back so that's 2 spaces who else will be leaving.

[btcc123]

MG CHRIS said:

With amd looking to run 3 cars, wsr to 4, eurotech to 3, team hard to 2 there seems to be either to many cars for spaces or a few teams will be leaving there's not many spare spaces left. Infiniti don't look like they be back so that's 2 spaces who else will be leaving.

I agree as there are a lot less licences than cars wanting to be on the grid next year.If there were new manufacturer or/and quality existing motorsport teams teams entering the BTCC maybe its time to limit teams to only two cars.

[anonymous-user]

Seems Dan Cammish wont be in the BTCC next season. I do wonder if he is struggling to find a budget for next season despite his success.

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/daniel-cammish-unl...

[DanielSan]

andy97 said:

Rob Austin in an Alfa Giulia.




Ok, I made that up, but it's lovely thought!

As they the team said earlier in the year they want to keep rear wheel drive I'm hoping they have a pair if Jag XE's.

[Rob197]

I think teams should be limited to two cars, 3 or 4 is just too many and a bit boring seeing a huge grid with only a small variation of different cars.

[MG CHRIS]

Rob197 said:

I think teams should be limited to two cars, 3 or 4 is just too many and a bit boring seeing a huge grid with only a small variation of different cars.

Well seeing as its only wsr/bmr with more than 2 cars the rest are either 2 or 1 car teams not a big deal tbh and we got plenty of models and makes of manufacture on the grid way more than even during the peak of super touring. I make it 10 manufactures and 11 models this year Honda civic/vw Passat/bmw 1 series/ford focus/audi a4/Toyota avensis/audi s3/proton persona/ chevorlet cruze/ infinitti q50/ merc a-class. One thing that isn't lacking is variety of cars all though some of the drivers are lacking something.

[fcuk1_6]

Rob197 said:

I think teams should be limited to two cars, 3 or 4 is just too many and a bit boring seeing a huge grid with only a small variation of different cars.

I agree that teams should be limited to two cars, not so much for variety of cars but so as to be a more level playing field in the championships. Two cars max and min for each team both matching models and colour scheme is my favoured option. If a team wants to run 4 cars they can run a B team but must be a different colour scheme and score separately.

[DanielSan]

Edited by DanielSan on Saturday 24th October 08:31

[Hamish Finn]

DanielSan said:

Latest rumour, possibly the next week is Jordan off to Motorbase. Which is pretty well expected.


And Warren Scott has purchased the 888 team with the intention of running 2 Jaguar XE cars with at least semi manufacturer backing...

"Silly season" indeed.

[MG CHRIS]

Hamish Finn said:

DanielSan said:

Latest rumour, possibly the next week is Jordan off to Motorbase. Which is pretty well expected.


And Warren Scott has purchased the 888 team with the intention of running 2 Jaguar XE cars with at least semi manufacturer backing...

"Silly season" indeed.

Well there is talk of different cars for bmr next year or a split anyway with 2 different cars. Would love too see jag back in the btcc.

[ols]

Turks does prefer rwd, so if bmr do run a jag it is probable that he would be behind the wheel.

[Hamish Finn]

MG CHRIS said:

Would love too see jag back in the btcc.

So would I (Jag owner for decades) but it's not going to happen.

[anonymous-user]

tux said:

Seems Dan Cammish wont be in the BTCC next season. I do wonder if he is struggling to find a budget for next season despite his success.

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/daniel-cammish-unl...

Yes it does seem that way, which seems to imply that most, if not all, of the current runners are paying for their drives, one way or another. No real surprise there.

Mind you I think it would be a mistake for Cammish. He's a genuinely quick, clean driver, but that won't mean too much in BTCC, he would still be bounced around.

[Allyc85]

I see the race 2 grid is going back to being set by the first races result. It had to happen really, as it just didn't suit the BTCC, and drivers not taking the start to set a lap was robbing the fans part of a race really.