2016 BTCC silly season

2016 BTCC silly season

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Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Allyc85 said:
I see the race 2 grid is going back to being set by the first races result. It had to happen really, as it just didn't suit the BTCC, and drivers not taking the start to set a lap was robbing the fans part of a race really.
I think I'd have changed it to 2 qualifying sessions. One session on each tyre. Then if someone were to be punted off in race one, it doesn't affect their race 2 position.

But it's not bad to go back to the previous solution.

emicen

8,599 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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fk1_6 said:
Rob197 said:
I think teams should be limited to two cars, 3 or 4 is just too many and a bit boring seeing a huge grid with only a small variation of different cars.
I agree that teams should be limited to two cars, not so much for variety of cars but so as to be a more level playing field in the championships. Two cars max and min for each team both matching models and colour scheme is my favoured option. If a team wants to run 4 cars they can run a B team but must be a different colour scheme and score separately.
Civic Type-R
Civic
Passat CC
Audi S3
Audi A4
Ford Focus
Chevy Cruze
BMW 125i
MG
Infiniti
Toyota Avensis
Proton

Even if we say the Civic variants only count as 1 car, that's hardly a "small variation." In the super touring era there was rarely that many different cars on the grid.

Which brings me neatly on to; 2 car teams, same livery. Super touring and the days of 2 car full factory teams with matching everything are gone. In the current climate it will never happen again. Even in Aussie V8s, 2 car teams often run totally different liveries depending on the car's sponsors.

Marc W

3,782 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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fk1_6 said:
I agree that teams should be limited to two cars, not so much for variety of cars but so as to be a more level playing field in the championships. Two cars max and min for each team both matching models and colour scheme is my favoured option. If a team wants to run 4 cars they can run a B team but must be a different colour scheme and score separately.
Only two cars per team score in the team championships anyway so they aren't gaining an advantage that way by having more cars. If you have the rule of two cars per team you will end up with smaller grids as the chanpionship isn't currently over subscribed.

Rob197

781 posts

147 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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emicen said:
Civic Type-R
Civic
Passat CC
Audi S3
Audi A4
Ford Focus
Chevy Cruze
BMW 125i
MG
Infiniti
Toyota Avensis
Proton

Even if we say the Civic variants only count as 1 car, that's hardly a "small variation." In the super touring era there was rarely that many different cars on the grid.

Which brings me neatly on to; 2 car teams, same livery. Super touring and the days of 2 car full factory teams with matching everything are gone. In the current climate it will never happen again. Even in Aussie V8s, 2 car teams often run totally different liveries depending on the car's sponsors.
I meant if every team runs 3 or 4 cars, i know this year there was a wide variety and its a good thing

Hamish Finn

476 posts

109 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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There's to be an announcement tomorrow on a driver joining a (new to him) team. I "think" I know who it is but I'm probably completely wrong.

But if I was correct, I'll tell you...

rofl

btcc123

1,243 posts

148 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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This from Alan Gow:

TOCA advised the teams that applications for any TOCA BTCC Licence (TBL) that may become available will only be considered if accompanied by complete details relating to the additional car, driver and funding. Should a TBL application be approved and any of the details provided subsequently change prior to the season starting, then TOCA may immediately withdraw the licence and re-issue it to another applicant. As previously advised to the teams, any applications for additional TBLs must be lodged by the end of October 2015.

Virtually all BTCC driver deals are quite late and even last minute just before Media day so I wonder how many deals will be completed in the next 4 days if teams want an extra licence.

Fonz

361 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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thought that was the idea, to get away from the lastminute.com driver deals. If you are serious about doing it then you will spend the previous summer putting the deal together. etc. If that is not possible the TOCA don't want you. Then again inn the current climate maybe AG is living in cloud cookoo land. wink

Speed Badger

2,707 posts

118 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Andy Jordan to Motorbase confirmed just now. If they can hang on to Jackson too that will be a team to beat.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

212 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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rubystone said:
Why wouldn't Jordan test a Focus? Even with the generous boost allowance they had (was that to help them promote themselves?) the car does seem a decent package...
Ithankyou smile

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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It also begs the question. Will 888 be back?

The MG has always been hard work and appears to be well off the pace.

Henry Fiddleton

1,581 posts

178 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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888 need to get Vauxhall back on the case, with the Astra for example..

MyVTECGoesBwaaah

820 posts

143 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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From what 888 are suggesting on Twitter they will be back, and with "a very exciting line-up".

Hopefully not with that MG though.

fcuk1_6

189 posts

181 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Marc W said:
Only two cars per team score in the team championships anyway so they aren't gaining an advantage that way by having more cars. If you have the rule of two cars per team you will end up with smaller grids as the chanpionship isn't currently over subscribed.
Are the two who score chosen prior to the race weekend or season or are they highest two scorers in the team per race or (total cumulative) weekend? If it is the highest two then they still have a clear advantage as a team.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

187 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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fk1_6 said:
If it is the highest two then they still have a clear advantage as a team.
I don't see how. Even if BMR had 10 cars and they always finished 10 or lower they still wouldn't win it based on that rule.

Munter said:
I think I'd have changed it to 2 qualifying sessions. One session on each tyre. Then if someone were to be punted off in race one, it doesn't affect their race 2 position.

But it's not bad to go back to the previous solution.
I would have liked to see race 2 chosen on the second quickest lap in the session, and make the session slightly longer.

Edited by Janesy B on Wednesday 28th October 13:46

zeb

3,204 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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zeb said:
I'd like to see Jordan and jackson in the motorbase fords. Now that would be tasty......
ah good....this bloke clearly knows what he's talking about.....hehe

Janesy B

2,625 posts

187 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Jackson isn't confirmed yet though, I'll be pissed off if it's Jordan and Cole. Jackson deserves a fair crack at the title, he's got plenty of race wins under his belt, just needs to convert that to a title.

MG CHRIS

9,086 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Janesy B said:
Jackson isn't confirmed yet though, I'll be pissed off if it's Jordan and Cole. Jackson deserves a fair crack at the title, he's got plenty of race wins under his belt, just needs to convert that to a title.
I do hope Jackson is back but didn't cole sign a multi year deal with the team could be wrong on that mind you. I know motorbase either sold or lent out there 3rd tbl so maybe they will take it back and run 3 cars again for 2016 for Jordan/Jackson/cole could be a possibility of that might not.

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Cole and Jordan could well bring in enough money to support Jackson who is a very good development driver as well as racer.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

187 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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MG CHRIS said:
I do hope Jackson is back but didn't cole sign a multi year deal with the team could be wrong on that mind you. I know motorbase either sold or lent out there 3rd tbl so maybe they will take it back and run 3 cars again for 2016 for Jordan/Jackson/cole could be a possibility of that might not.
They're applying for a third and hopefully they'll get it. That Dextra Focus is a liability.