The New 750MC Club Enduro Series

The New 750MC Club Enduro Series

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xr287

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874 posts

179 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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So who is racing in this next year? http://www.750mc.co.uk/formulae/club-enduro.htm

Looks like a good idea and the entry fee is a bargain considering the track time you get.

Planning on running a BMW Compact which will hopefully be reasonably competitive in class C.

Being used to single make series I am hoping it will attract a big enough grid and have similarly matched cars so there will still be some pretty close racing rather than everyone effectively running round in their own class.

markbates

90 posts

134 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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I was interested in the one they did at Snetterton last year but it clashed with a prior engagement. Looking at the price though I will be looking to make an outing in it at some point next year, while im not a member of the 750mc the fact its only £20 to join makes it cheap enough.
Are you racing in the compact cup this year? Shame they are not still running with the 750mc or you could have done both the same weekend and reduced the transport.
Looking at what they have done over the last few years it seems like a way or opening up the roadsports race, which were shorted than the enduro but oversubscribed most weekends.

markbates

90 posts

134 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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Queue Andy97 to tell us that we should do it with the CSCC or 360MC lol.......

andy97

4,691 posts

221 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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Wrong! I raced in Roadsports a couple of times last year, and whilst I think driving standards leave something to be desired I will probably do a similar number of Roadsports races in 2016. I like the power to weight classes although I think that a 60 bhp split is too much.

The Endurance series looks very good, and I am hoping to take part in it, although I hope they mandate 2 X compulsory pit stops to allow 3 drivers to share costs.

xr287

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874 posts

179 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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markbates said:
Are you racing in the compact cup this year? Shame they are not still running with the 750mc or you could have done both the same weekend and reduced the transport.
I was in the Scottish series but instead will be making select appearances at English rounds next year as racing Knockhill 7 out of 8 meetings gets a tad boring.

I did the Race of Remembrance this year which really got me interested in endurance racing, liked it much more than the flat out 12 manic laps and you're done of the compact races. Also working out the cost per hour of endurance racing versus shorter races is a bit of an eye opener!

The Club Enduro seems to fill a bit of a gap in the market, I can find no other endurance series (which to me is a minimum 2 hour length) in the UK that you don't need have a more expensive/faster car to run in. I was looking at Britcar but the compact isn't even fast enough to qualify for their slowest class. The FunCup looks pretty good especially as all the cars are the same and is reasonable value for money when you calculate cost per hour versus compact racing but obviously your tracktime per weekend is higher so the cost per weekend is higher also. I'm looking at the Snetterton and/or Anglesey weekends to see if I could arrange a drive. My theory being a weekend with 6 hours of racing will give you a lower cost per hour of tracktime than the weekends with 4 hours of racing.

Steve H

5,224 posts

194 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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andy97 said:
Wrong! I raced in Roadsports a couple of times last year, and whilst I think driving standards leave something to be desired I will probably do a similar number of Roadsports races in 2016. I like the power to weight classes although I think that a 60 bhp split is too much.

The Endurance series looks very good, and I am hoping to take part in it, although I hope they mandate 2 X compulsory pit stops to allow 3 drivers to share costs.
Andy, I think you'll find that they are going to alter the classes for next year which may suit you.

The summer endurance at Snett was a good event, needs a bit of careful monitoring of how the stops work as a couple of teams took the piss on duration of stops but it call came out in the wash for us at least biggrin .

It was spread over two days which didn't suit well for me but it's all being done on one day next year which is good. Shame that one of the weekends is also shared with Roadsports when it could have been done at Croft, Mallory, Anglesey etc which are circuits that Roadsports doesn't get to.

The Enduro races are shorter next year (1&1/2 and 2 hours instead of 2&1/2) so I think only one stop will be mandated and that's what I will be asking for, it's supposed to be based round road cars and there's no reason why they can't do over an hour on track in one hit.

andy97

4,691 posts

221 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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Steve H said:
andy97 said:
Wrong! I raced in Roadsports a couple of times last year, and whilst I think driving standards leave something to be desired I will probably do a similar number of Roadsports races in 2016. I like the power to weight classes although I think that a 60 bhp split is too much.

The Endurance series looks very good, and I am hoping to take part in it, although I hope they mandate 2 X compulsory pit stops to allow 3 drivers to share costs.
Andy, I think you'll find that they are going to alter the classes for next year which may suit you.

The summer endurance at Snett was a good event, needs a bit of careful monitoring of how the stops work as a couple of teams took the piss on duration of stops but it call came out in the wash for us at least biggrin .

It was spread over two days which didn't suit well for me but it's all being done on one day next year which is good. Shame that one of the weekends is also shared with Roadsports when it could have been done at Croft, Mallory, Anglesey etc which are circuits that Roadsports doesn't get to.

The Enduro races are shorter next year (1&1/2 and 2 hours instead of 2&1/2) so I think only one stop will be mandated and that's what I will be asking for, it's supposed to be based round road cars and there's no reason why they can't do over an hour on track in one hit.
That's good info, Steve, thanks. I think that Roadsports and the Endurance series should have 4 classes with 40 bhp between them, upo 140, 140-180, 180-220 and 220-260 bhp per tonne. We will see what they do.

I do like the fact that qualifying and the race is on the same day, and I think that's important to cut down time away from the family and potential accom costs. I think that the durations in 2016 are right but I think that 2 X pit stops are the way to go as some cars can't do an hour on 1 tank, 40 min stints are long enough for most club drivers and because I think that being able to share between 3 drivers makes it all very affordable for a wider group of drivers.

I like the calendar but agree that rounds at Crosft and Anglesey would have been good, particularly to suit the more northerly based drivers who generally have to travel further than many. Mallory I'm not so sure about. I like Mallory and its location suits me but the pit entrance and pit lane don't suit endurance racing.

I need to get the engine sorted in the 924S!


Edited by andy97 on Monday 28th December 14:02

Steve H

5,224 posts

194 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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It was a bit of a result when we got a round at Cadwell last year and they are starting at Oulton this time round but sadly we still get stuck with multiple visits to Snett and Silverstone that I'd have preferred to see at the northern tracks.

Regarding distance running etc, I've no problem with three man teams or small tanks but most production tanks will run for an hour no problem (including yours) and it's supposed to be a production based series so I reckon one mandatory stop is enough. Guess we'll see what they come up with on that.

andy97

4,691 posts

221 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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Certainly I can do an hour on a tank, but it's more the fact that a 40 min stint is long enough for most people and the affordability of sharing a car between 3 drivers is attractive.

I have done both 40 min stints and a 1 hour 10 minute stint on warm days and I was exhausted! Driver endurance should not be underestimated!

Edited by andy97 on Monday 28th December 17:55

Steve H

5,224 posts

194 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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Longest I've done racing is just over 1hr 20 on the Birkett, I found that OK once I got a rhythm going.

Each to their own though and I've no problem with anyone doing extra stops - I just don't want to have to do them wink.

roddo

569 posts

194 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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I aggree with Steve it's all about driver training.....and fitness.
If you practice for it you can do it. I see new guys get out of a car after a 20min race like they have just come out of a sauna...

As an mx5 driver this is where I can gain time 1hr45 on a tank of fuel maintaining lap times +/- a couple tenths

Neal 182

48 posts

184 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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First ever race and my team mate wonts me to do an hour 👍

Steve H

5,224 posts

194 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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Man up Neal, try to keep up with the old boys tongue out

bobbyandrews

26 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th December 2015
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Looks like a good event, May enter my MX5.

Hour stints shouldn't be too hard for most if you are reasonable fit and healthy. Does depend on the weather on they day though I Suppose.

staceyboy

77 posts

168 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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Looks like we'll be doing this. Regs are up, too http://www.750mc.co.uk/formulae/club-enduro.htm

staceyboy

77 posts

168 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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roddo said:
.....and fitness.
Go on then Paul. Elaborate on this for me will you.... :lol:

evilmiyagi

127 posts

108 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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I may be joining for a round with another driver, can't fault the price for the track time. If nothing else it'll be an early season warm up for, dare I say it, CSCC redface

Edited by evilmiyagi on Wednesday 6th January 16:03

Soul Reaver

499 posts

191 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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I might do one of these rounds..

ctsdave

872 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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I was fancying it but sadly we will be way above class limits! TVR class B what we run is 325rwhp/tonne...

I imagine a few M3s and Porsches etc will suffer the same??

andy97

4,691 posts

221 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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I think it's been designed that way on purpose..........