Formula E 2016
Discussion
Gc285 said:
because they either like deriding things or they don't like change or they are following the herd or they have an opinion . T.
That just about sums up the entire human race.I would prefer people to have opinions about things than be completely neutral - even if I don't agree with their opinions.
Gc285 said:
People deride Formula E because they either like deriding things or they don't like change or they are following the herd or they have an opinion . That is pistonheads for you.
You cannot compare Formula one to Formula E.
There seem to be equal numbers that like or dislike it. It has changed since the start and will continue to do so, for the better.
Great racing last weekend, looking forward to losing the car swap and maybe fan boost.
you could make a possible fascinating and cutting edge relevent motor racing series if you opened up the regs enough to allow companies/teams to innovate/compete on a technological basis, and attracted the right players to be in it. Thats so much of motorsports heritage right there, testing new innovations under the stress of sport, and given the direction of the motor industry now would be a perfect time for a serious pissing contest between some huge players with directly translatable research expenditure/market exposure.You cannot compare Formula one to Formula E.
There seem to be equal numbers that like or dislike it. It has changed since the start and will continue to do so, for the better.
Great racing last weekend, looking forward to losing the car swap and maybe fan boost.
Formula E is about as far from that as it gets - it's just a lazy knee jerk "something~psedo-enviro-friedee-lee~good PReey." somewhat superflous seeming spec series who's stand out gimmick is that you get wirry noises instead of brmmy noises and thats where a lot of the ambivalence comes from. Thats not to say it can't produce "good racing", but then so can tractors, lawnmowers, pedalos, space hoppers whatever.
Gc285 said:
You cannot compare Formula one to Formula E.
Yet they style the cars to resemble open wheel racing cars which to the casual observer implies a certain level of performance. Instead they get to watch f1 style cars racing at speeds lower than if the safety car were on track in F1. They had the opportunity to make Formula E something unique and the cars could have looked futuristic and other worldly but instead they made them look just like any other open wheel series without the performance of drama.
Changing cars mid race is just farcical too. If Audi could develop a modular LMP1 car 16 years ago (the R8) why could the concept not be evolved to allow battery packs to be swapped out? The notion of having to use 2 cars to finish a race really underlines the public's main gripe about electric cars and their range in general.
Worth pointing out that within a couple of years there will be significant power increases and the ambition to move across to a single car for the full race distance. The cars are limited to a relatively modest spec with headroom for performance increases at the moment to help establish the teams and the technology.
The Wookie said:
Worth pointing out that within a couple of years there will be significant power increases and the ambition to move across to a single car for the full race distance. The cars are limited to a relatively modest spec with headroom for performance increases at the moment to help establish the teams and the technology.
That's all well and good but in my opinion the circuits are the biggest problem with the series. Paris was particularly bad. Racing in city centres sounds great in principle, but the reality of it seems to be;
- Relative lack of high speed corners, low variety between circuits
- Narrow circuits with little to no runoff apart from on corner entries
- Poor track surfaces ridden with painted lines, drain hole covers and surface changes
- Claustrophobic feel with poor camera coverage
- Circuit barriers and advertising hoardings obscure any views of 'the city'.
The low speeds make the formula style cars look ungainly- they seem to dart about nervously on their eco tyres without ever looking like they're in full flow. The point-and-squirt, ninety right, ninety right nature of the circuits exacerbate this.
Fan boost does need to go.
I don't know where it's money comes from but surely there'll come a time where the lack of recognition and take-up of the series will become a problem.
I hope it remains and evolves into something good but I have my doubts...
The size of the circuits is a reflection of the speed of the cars and the range at the moment. The good thing about having these temporary circuits is that they can change and grow as the cars get more power.
There's plenty of big manufacturers backing it due to the low cost, high profile and relevant tech, and it's populated by plenty of name drivers so it's not going anywhere. Give it a chance, it already provides close and entertaining racing despite the tight circuits, I think it will mature into something very popular
There's plenty of big manufacturers backing it due to the low cost, high profile and relevant tech, and it's populated by plenty of name drivers so it's not going anywhere. Give it a chance, it already provides close and entertaining racing despite the tight circuits, I think it will mature into something very popular
The Russia race in June is cancelled, so the races left are Berlin and the London double round. http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/6/11608576/formula-...
Apparently the London race/finale coming is going to be the last one. The organising body are sick to death of all the uncertainly due to protests at the use of Battersea Park.
Just goes to show that some people would complain about an envelope being opened if they had a chance. It would appear that some of the protestors are worried about the environmental damage that it might cause, which also shows that some of them aren't anti-petrol cars, they're just anti-cars full stop.
(Plus of course, anyone actually having any fun that didn't involve lentils.)
Just goes to show that some people would complain about an envelope being opened if they had a chance. It would appear that some of the protestors are worried about the environmental damage that it might cause, which also shows that some of them aren't anti-petrol cars, they're just anti-cars full stop.
(Plus of course, anyone actually having any fun that didn't involve lentils.)
The Crack Fox said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Apparently the London race/finale coming is going to be the last one. The organising body are sick to death of all the uncertainly due to protests at the use of Battersea Park.
Just goes to show that some people would complain about an envelope being opened if they had a chance. It would appear that some of the protestors are worried about the environmental damage that it might cause, which also shows that some of them aren't anti-petrol cars, they're just anti-cars full stop.
(Plus of course, anyone actually having any fun that didn't involve lentils.)
We have dozens of fantastic race tracks around the country, Formula E is headquartered at one! I don't see the point in buggering up a city centre to host a race no-one wants to watch anyway.Just goes to show that some people would complain about an envelope being opened if they had a chance. It would appear that some of the protestors are worried about the environmental damage that it might cause, which also shows that some of them aren't anti-petrol cars, they're just anti-cars full stop.
(Plus of course, anyone actually having any fun that didn't involve lentils.)
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