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MartG said:
Dakkon said:
Ferrari are considering LMP1, they have a test mule running, but whether they actually enter a team or not is another thing.
If they don't get a win in F1 this year I can see their management putting more resources into WEC at the expense of the ( in their view ) underperforming F1 teamI’d love to see a Ferrari LMP1 WEC programme. But, hand on heart I just can’t see it. No matter how bad F1 is, just look at the media interest, TV viewing figures, etc and compare it to the WEC; even Le Mans doesn’t get the great mainstream coverage you might think it would.
I want to see Ferrari LMP1 in WEC, Lancia/ Alfa-Romeo in DTM and Fiat/Abarth in the WRC…but the Fiat group have decided to put all their motorsport eggs in the F1 basket.
I want to see Ferrari LMP1 in WEC, Lancia/ Alfa-Romeo in DTM and Fiat/Abarth in the WRC…but the Fiat group have decided to put all their motorsport eggs in the F1 basket.
Curious to see how many pages last years thread got to, I searched back and found the race thread that I started, 74 pages!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Alex Langheck said:
I’d love to see a Ferrari LMP1 WEC programme. But, hand on heart I just can’t see it. No matter how bad F1 is, just look at the media interest, TV viewing figures, etc and compare it to the WEC; even Le Mans doesn’t get the great mainstream coverage you might think it would.
I want to see Ferrari LMP1 in WEC, Lancia/ Alfa-Romeo in DTM and Fiat/Abarth in the WRC…but the Fiat group have decided to put all their motorsport eggs in the F1 basket.
Great point, Alex - absolutely zero in the general media about the build-up to the Le Mans 24hrs - still full of bloody football and F1.I want to see Ferrari LMP1 in WEC, Lancia/ Alfa-Romeo in DTM and Fiat/Abarth in the WRC…but the Fiat group have decided to put all their motorsport eggs in the F1 basket.
I can't understand why so much vitriol has been pointed in the direction of the Ford team.
They have pushed the boundaries, but that's what Motorsport is all about. It's been going on since its inception, and to an extent, it's what makes it interesting. I know there's no road going version of the GT, but it seems there will be, and the teams all agreed to allow ford to race in these circumstances anyway.
We know the BOP is rubbish, but as some one else pointed out the Ferrari was only a hand full of seconds behind the winning Ford, so it could be argued it worked.
Also, with regard to the appeals at the end of the race. It must have been obvious to the Ferrari team that they were leaving themselves open to sanctions. They were given an instruction by race control to fix the lights, and they didn't. Others had been give similar instructions and obeyed them. So why should Ferrari be an exception? On this particular point race control had been remarkably consistent too. They had been telling teams to fix the lights for the whole of the 24 hours. So when Ferrari appealed the speeding in the slow zone, is it any surprise that the refusal to follow race control instructions to fix the light was pointed out to the stewards?
I think it was a well deserved class win, and very much in the spirit of the overall wins of the sixties.
They have pushed the boundaries, but that's what Motorsport is all about. It's been going on since its inception, and to an extent, it's what makes it interesting. I know there's no road going version of the GT, but it seems there will be, and the teams all agreed to allow ford to race in these circumstances anyway.
We know the BOP is rubbish, but as some one else pointed out the Ferrari was only a hand full of seconds behind the winning Ford, so it could be argued it worked.
Also, with regard to the appeals at the end of the race. It must have been obvious to the Ferrari team that they were leaving themselves open to sanctions. They were given an instruction by race control to fix the lights, and they didn't. Others had been give similar instructions and obeyed them. So why should Ferrari be an exception? On this particular point race control had been remarkably consistent too. They had been telling teams to fix the lights for the whole of the 24 hours. So when Ferrari appealed the speeding in the slow zone, is it any surprise that the refusal to follow race control instructions to fix the light was pointed out to the stewards?
I think it was a well deserved class win, and very much in the spirit of the overall wins of the sixties.
Everyone sandbags for BOP, even in GT4. It's always been b
ks, the difference is that instead of it being a year long Mexican standoff (with a slight frigging to make sure the new cars are faster than the old obsolete ones) that one manufacturer has built a homologation special and pushed the sandbagging to the extreme in being prepared to blow the rest of the season for one event
ks, the difference is that instead of it being a year long Mexican standoff (with a slight frigging to make sure the new cars are faster than the old obsolete ones) that one manufacturer has built a homologation special and pushed the sandbagging to the extreme in being prepared to blow the rest of the season for one eventMatt_N said:
Curious to see how many pages last years thread got to, I searched back and found the race thread that I started, 74 pages!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Most of this thread is pre / post race chat, there are only about 10 pages of race chat here.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Same thing with the btcc thread from the overlords
Toyota have released a statement regarding the car failure
http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/le-mans-24-hours...
http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/le-mans-24-hours...
MartG said:
Toyota have released a statement regarding the car failure
http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/le-mans-24-hours...
All that work for one electrical connector...http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/le-mans-24-hours...
FourWheelDrift said:
That picture is at least a couple of years old. Ferrari to LMP1 rumour is like the VAG to F1 rumour. jonnyb said:
I can't understand why so much vitriol has been pointed in the direction of the Ford team.
They have pushed the boundaries, but that's what Motorsport is all about. It's been going on since its inception, and to an extent, it's what makes it interesting. I know there's no road going version of the GT, but it seems there will be, and the teams all agreed to allow ford to race in these circumstances anyway.
We know the BOP is rubbish, but as some one else pointed out the Ferrari was only a hand full of seconds behind the winning Ford, so it could be argued it worked.
Also, with regard to the appeals at the end of the race. It must have been obvious to the Ferrari team that they were leaving themselves open to sanctions. They were given an instruction by race control to fix the lights, and they didn't. Others had been give similar instructions and obeyed them. So why should Ferrari be an exception? On this particular point race control had been remarkably consistent too. They had been telling teams to fix the lights for the whole of the 24 hours. So when Ferrari appealed the speeding in the slow zone, is it any surprise that the refusal to follow race control instructions to fix the light was pointed out to the stewards?
I think it was a well deserved class win, and very much in the spirit of the overall wins of the sixties.
This might be worth a read for the actual story behind the late race protest - Ford behaved very badlyThey have pushed the boundaries, but that's what Motorsport is all about. It's been going on since its inception, and to an extent, it's what makes it interesting. I know there's no road going version of the GT, but it seems there will be, and the teams all agreed to allow ford to race in these circumstances anyway.
We know the BOP is rubbish, but as some one else pointed out the Ferrari was only a hand full of seconds behind the winning Ford, so it could be argued it worked.
Also, with regard to the appeals at the end of the race. It must have been obvious to the Ferrari team that they were leaving themselves open to sanctions. They were given an instruction by race control to fix the lights, and they didn't. Others had been give similar instructions and obeyed them. So why should Ferrari be an exception? On this particular point race control had been remarkably consistent too. They had been telling teams to fix the lights for the whole of the 24 hours. So when Ferrari appealed the speeding in the slow zone, is it any surprise that the refusal to follow race control instructions to fix the light was pointed out to the stewards?
I think it was a well deserved class win, and very much in the spirit of the overall wins of the sixties.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/06/24/five-thin...
Edited by GrahamG on Saturday 25th June 14:03
GrahamG said:
This might be worth a read for the actual story behind the late race protest - Ford behaved very badly
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/06/24/five-thin...
That's the kind of unsporting behaviour you might see in nascar. Am I surprised to see Ford do that? Nope.http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/06/24/five-thin...
Edited by GrahamG on Saturday 25th June 14:03
No place for that in the WEC.
Not sure if its been posted but I think Toyota found what killed their potential race winner; a defect in a hose linking boost pressure to an intercooler. So probably a simple cheap part got a split in it or it gummed up somehow. Apparently, they managed to re-program the car whilst it was sat on the start-finish so that it would ignore the error, but by then it was too late.
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