Ross Brawn's new book

[stemll]

Doesn't sound like he's going to be pulling any punches.

Looks very much like a must-read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/37708335

[CraigyMc]

stemll said:

Doesn't sound like he's going to be pulling any punches.

Looks very much like a must-read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/37708335

Amazon have the release date for the book as Nov 3rd. Nice Xmas present, probably.

[tvrforever]

just ordered from Amazon

[stemll]

CraigyMc said:

Amazon have the release date for the book as Nov 3rd. Nice Xmas present, probably.

Already on my list

[CraigyMc]

stemll said:

CraigyMc said:

Amazon have the release date for the book as Nov 3rd. Nice Xmas present, probably.

Already on my list

Mine too actually

[anonymous-user]

As a total outsider looking in I would tend to believe Ross Brawn over Wolf and Lauda.

I respect him not disclosing this in 2013 which many men in his position would have taken Mercedes to the press.

Shame he is not still in F1 but I am sure he is enjoying the retirement and fishing.

[CraigyMc]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

As a total outsider looking in I would tend to believe Ross Brawn over Wolf and Lauda.

Brawn started at the bottom, doing electronics for Williams in the early 80's. He worked his way to the top.
He's done basically everything in F1 short of driving the car, has won for Ferrari and also with his name over the door.

He's got nothing to prove to anyone, and he's not actively in F1 any more.

As a consequence of all these things, and the fact that he's just one of those guys who I'd be inclined to trust, I am inclined to believe him over quite a few people. He's not a slimy political type to me (plenty in F1 are), and I don't think the book will contain anything other than the truth as he sees it.

[rubystone]

I don't know anyone in the world of motor racing with a negatiive comment about RB. Every time I've met him he's been unfailingly polite (even at silly o clock in Changi Airport) and refreshingly honest and direct. Is this the book he's written with Adam Parr? (Another good guy)

[CraigyMc]

rubystone said:

I don't know anyone in the world of motor racing with a negatiive comment about RB. Every time I've met him he's been unfailingly polite (even at silly o clock in Changi Airport) and refreshingly honest and direct. Is this the book he's written with Adam Parr? (Another good guy)

Yup

[cgt2]

I know he and Adam Parr live very near to each other but is there any other connection?

Pre-ordered this book today, Ross is one of the greats in F1 and very much looking forward to it.

[Dr Z]

Austria 2002 happened under his watch, but also he comes across as a pretty fair individual to drivers, until a team result is threatened. I like his style. Looking forward to reading the book.

[CraigyMc]

Dr Z said:

Austria 2002 happened under his watch, but also he comes across as a pretty fair individual to drivers, until a team result is threatened. I like his style. Looking forward to reading the book.

Ferrari hasn't really ever been a team with two equal-status drivers, and at the time there weren't rules about team orders.

In other words, you can only piss with the cock you have. I don't ascribe blame to Brawn over that, it's just how Ferrari are (and were).

[Dr Z]

CraigyMc said:

Dr Z said:

Austria 2002 happened under his watch, but also he comes across as a pretty fair individual to drivers, until a team result is threatened. I like his style. Looking forward to reading the book.

Ferrari hasn't really ever been a team with two equal-status drivers, and at the time there weren't rules about team orders.

In other words, you can only piss with the cock you have. I don't ascribe blame to Brawn over that, it's just how Ferrari are (and were).

Even if his hands were tied at Ferrari on that occasion, I remember him neutralising a battle between his drivers at Mercedes in Malaysia 2013. I don't see a problem with team orders per se, when it prioritises a team result...which I feel is generally Ross' approach to it. This approach tends to fall foul of fairness between drivers, which the current Mercedes management tends to strive to...a dominant car helps, I'm sure.

Anyhow, the book should be a fascinating read if he gives some insights into his thinking on these matters.

[amgmcqueen]

Would anyone here buy a used car from Wolff or Lauda...?

[Pickled]

amgmcqueen said:

Would anyone here buy a used car from Wolff or Lauda...?

Nicki would probably stick a 3 pointed star on a Lada and convince you it was a new C Class, Wolff would have to keep popping off to ask his manager and leave you waiting 30 minutes each time while he got the figures, and you'd sign the paperwork just to get out of there.

[anonymous-user]

Pickled said:

Nicki would probably stick a 3 pointed star on a Lada and convince you it was a new C Class, Wolff would have to keep popping off to ask his manager and leave you waiting 30 minutes each time while he got the figures, and you'd sign the paperwork just to get out of there.

Sounds spot on to me

[llewop]

CraigyMc said:

Amazon have the release date for the book as Nov 3rd. Nice Xmas present, probably.

excellent - perfect timing as I'm on holiday a week later so can take it with me

[Leroy902]

I found it amusing when Hamilton won his drivers championship with Mercedes in 2014, and Niki trying to take the plaudits for getting Hamilton to join the team.
With the question asked to Lewis alittle later, he made it pretty evident it was Ross that came to his house for a cup of tea and a chat, and walking out with him pretty much signed up to joint the Mercs.

[NM62]

stemll said:

Doesn't sound like he's going to be pulling any punches.

Looks very much like a must-read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/37708335

Ordered from Amazon - thanks for the heads up - so that's 3 F1 books from Santa - Damon's, Jonny' and Ross's - question is which one first?

[rubystone]

Leroy902 said:

I found it amusing when Hamilton won his drivers championship with Mercedes in 2014, and Niki trying to take the plaudits for getting Hamilton to join the team.
With the question asked to Lewis alittle later, he made it pretty evident it was Ross that came to his house for a cup of tea and a chat, and walking out with him pretty much signed up to joint the Mercs.

Ross is such a nice bloke, an engineer at heart and thus tends to deal in facts only. I can totally believe that it was he who persuaded Lewis to make the move. He's not prone to hyperbole. I look forward to reading the book.