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And TV coverage of the WRC should improve, certainly will be free:
http://www.newspress.co.uk/public/ViewPressRelease...
Not sure what the Channel 5 coverage will be, if any??
http://www.newspress.co.uk/public/ViewPressRelease...
Not sure what the Channel 5 coverage will be, if any??
DelicaL400 said:
Jerry Can said:
Motor clubs really are not doing anything to help National and Club rallying. They need better people quite frankly, sure the MC members are honest and work hard, but they are political and full of people who have never really achieved in life. They love their rallying, but lack significant entrepreneurial skills. In any case, the BRC should be run, and all rallies organised, by one group of people who may then be able to make the numbers work. That is in essence the difference between rally and racing. They might even be able to be paid.
I wonder how much rallying there'd be if all these non-achieving motor club members stopped giving up their time to put on events. None I think. Do you recall the BRC when Mark Taylor and his chums were paid to organise/promote it?
Jerry Can said:
It would be better for one well capable motor club to run the whole BRC, with a couple of members of that club being paid to do so.
So you're meaning one team to run the events in one championship rather than all rallies? That's not how I read your first post. This model is used in offroad championships such as NORC and BCCC but it's still ultimately a club of volunteers who are putting on the events/championship.I'm not sure entry fees would be viable if a team of organisers had to be paid. Even it is was a "couple of members" it'd be another £50k on the costs at least. And is a couple realistic? Just thinking of championships I'm aware of you have a clerk of course, deputy clerk, safety officer, chief marshal, entries secretary, start/finish crews, marshals/radio marshals etc. The championship needs all of those to run and all give up a lot of their time and money. So if one is paid shouldn't they all be?
DelicaL400 said:
So you're meaning one team to run the events in one championship rather than all rallies? That's not how I read your first post. This model is used in offroad championships such as NORC and BCCC but it's still ultimately a club of volunteers who are putting on the events/championship.
I'm not sure entry fees would be viable if a team of organisers had to be paid. Even it is was a "couple of members" it'd be another £50k on the costs at least. And is a couple realistic? Just thinking of championships I'm aware of you have a clerk of course, deputy clerk, safety officer, chief marshal, entries secretary, start/finish crews, marshals/radio marshals etc. The championship needs all of those to run and all give up a lot of their time and money. So if one is paid shouldn't they all be?
No, not every one should be paid. A couple of people to run and organise the rallies, do most of the donkey work, liasion with land owners, insurances, root planning etc. Leaning on the clubs that run the rallies for detail 'on the ground' support.I'm not sure entry fees would be viable if a team of organisers had to be paid. Even it is was a "couple of members" it'd be another £50k on the costs at least. And is a couple realistic? Just thinking of championships I'm aware of you have a clerk of course, deputy clerk, safety officer, chief marshal, entries secretary, start/finish crews, marshals/radio marshals etc. The championship needs all of those to run and all give up a lot of their time and money. So if one is paid shouldn't they all be?
the MSA needs to bankroll the events so they happen, build some momentum, rationalise championships, reducing the number of rallies, coordinate it better, so that there are more available competitors for each event thus upping entries.
However I am bored of all this, I had my fill of MC's a couple of years ago, and they are all going to die off in the next 10-15 years. Now is the time to prepare for that and reorganise how an event comes to fruition. Won't happen tho.
velocemitch said:
Got your (Irish) insurance premium yet then?
Nope, there's a big meeting being held over it soon enough. The entry fee's are going to go up again (it's already around 1000 euro to the Galway International this February).Insurance in Ireland has gone completely mental. Axa and Aviva won't insure any road car 14 years or older on a first time policy!
Slippydiff said:
Looking a lot better than it did a month ago!
GravelBen said:
Slippydiff said:
Looking a lot better than it did a month ago!The championship is between Meeke, very fast, but makes a few mistakes, Ogier, very fast, no mistakes but not in the quickest car ( at least at year end) and.... Latvala, plenty of seat time, well resourced, may win a few at year end. Unfortunately I can't see the Hyundai being the fastest car or driver/car combo at any point in the season. Not long till we find out.
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