V8 Supercars 2023 - Gen 3

V8 Supercars 2023 - Gen 3

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Wh00sher

1,590 posts

219 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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SVG doing a round of NASCAR, interested to see how he gets on, but it doesn't give him a great deal of time to get used to the car.

Tasmania this weekend, looks rubbish when you look at a track map, but usually gives pretty good racing.

-Neil-

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147 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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Bathurst this weekend biggrin

itsallyellow

3,663 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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Yep!

Looking forward to it,

What is everyone’s thoughts on the 2023 season? I exepected a bit more excitement with the new Gen 3 car? Not sure it’s been the best year?

Mike

DanielSan

18,800 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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No new aero tweaks for the Mustang's this weekend so it's looking like a very long Camaro one make race at the front.

Jader1973

4,001 posts

201 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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DanielSan said:
No new aero tweaks for the Mustang's this weekend so it's looking like a very long Camaro one make race at the front.
Reports are saying Ford have almost had enough because of the lack of parity. They’ve only approved factory backing until the end of the 2024 season and are supposedly reviewing their involvement in all race series.

freedman

5,419 posts

208 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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itsallyellow said:
Yep!

Looking forward to it,

What is everyone’s thoughts on the 2023 season? I exepected a bit more excitement with the new Gen 3 car? Not sure it’s been the best year?

Mike
GM dropping Holden was a very bad move, to start with


RiseUp

355 posts

53 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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That was possibly the most boring Bathurst I’ve watched in the 13 years I’ve been watching it.

Pleased for SVG though.

GlobalRacer

238 posts

14 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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So all the doom mongers who said these cars were incapable of finishing Bathurst were proved totally wrong.

Jader1973

4,001 posts

201 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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RiseUp said:
That was possibly the most boring Bathurst I’ve watched in the 13 years I’ve been watching it.

Pleased for SVG though.
It was rather dull wasn’t it?

However it was a great result for SVG and Stanaway.

RiseUp

355 posts

53 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Jader1973 said:
RiseUp said:
That was possibly the most boring Bathurst I’ve watched in the 13 years I’ve been watching it.

Pleased for SVG though.
It was rather dull wasn’t it?

However it was a great result for SVG and Stanaway.
The whole series is a mess. When SVG leaves at the end of the year, they’ve got zero marque names, they have far too many old names clinging on such as Courtney, Davison and Frosty, they need fresh, young talent.

The points system needs a do over to simplify it, it’s a complete mess. SVG only gained 24 points for his win in the biggest, longest race of the year. Madness.

Viewing numbers were well down.

Jader1973

4,001 posts

201 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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RiseUp said:
Jader1973 said:
RiseUp said:
That was possibly the most boring Bathurst I’ve watched in the 13 years I’ve been watching it.

Pleased for SVG though.
It was rather dull wasn’t it?

However it was a great result for SVG and Stanaway.
The whole series is a mess. When SVG leaves at the end of the year, they’ve got zero marque names, they have far too many old names clinging on such as Courtney, Davison and Frosty, they need fresh, young talent.

The points system needs a do over to simplify it, it’s a complete mess. SVG only gained 24 points for his win in the biggest, longest race of the year. Madness.

Viewing numbers were well down.
I agree.

As a Holden fan, I haven’t watched any races this year except Bathurst - the rest are pretty much not on free TV. I’ll also watch Adelaide because it is SVG’s last race.

I won’t support GM so next year, with SVG gone, I think I’ll only watch Bathurst. It will become a bit like F1 for me - just watch for the racing without caring who wins.

vtgts300kw

598 posts

178 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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RiseUp said:
The whole series is a mess. When SVG leaves at the end of the year, they’ve got zero marque names, they have far too many old names clinging on such as Courtney, Davison and Frosty, they need fresh, young talent.

The points system needs a do over to simplify it, it’s a complete mess. SVG only gained 24 points for his win in the biggest, longest race of the year. Madness.

Viewing numbers were well down.
The fall from grace the series has suffered over the last couple of years is startling. Until very recently, it was easily the best touring car/ tin top category in the world (with world beating broadcasting to match), but the introduction of the Gen.3 cars has been nothing but a disaster.

Bathurst was a bore, but we've been historically lucky with well timed (from the viewers perspective) safety car periods adding end of race drama.

Even the broadcast this past weekend was lacklustre. I'm not sure how to put my finger on it, but there just seemed a lack of enthusiasm from the presenters. One thing that stood out as missing from the coverage was usually at the end of the race, Larko will be in scrutineering, salivating over the wining car.

s-x-i

164 posts

50 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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I was planning on staying up to watch the 1000, but after watching the highlights I am glad I didn't.

On the whole I am still enjoying the season so far but the lack or 'parity' between the cars is a bit annoying. Hopefully they can sort this out in the remainder of the season for a better 2024.

The category does seem to be going through a bit of a transition at the minute, not only cars but drivers too. Plenty of driver changes already confirmed for next year.

On a side note, I have been watching the 'Inside Line' series on YouTube from a few years back. Good insight into the teams they have followed (Erebus, 888 and WAU). Worth a watch!

Altrezia

8,517 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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I hate these new cars. They still look poor (to my eye) and haven't done anything for the racing. And they've added some annoying unreliability which nobody wants to see - and there's no excuse for when they're all essentially the same car.

Bleh.

vtgts300kw

598 posts

178 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Altrezia said:
I hate these new cars. They still look poor (to my eye) and haven't done anything for the racing. And they've added some annoying unreliability which nobody wants to see - and there's no excuse for when they're all essentially the same car.

Bleh.
They've made the racing worse. And the tyres don't work with the Gen.3 cars (and they're not making changes for '24). There is a very, very small setup window for the cars, and they all go out on the same pressures, which results in them essentially playing follow the leader trying to conserve.

Wh00sher

1,590 posts

219 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Rumour today that Kostecki has fallen out with Barry Ryan (is anyone shocked at Barry falling out with someone?) and he's leaving Erebus.

Considering he convincingly won the drivers title and they won the team title for the first time, something major must have happened for him to walk away and possibly sit out the season as he's still under contract.

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

237 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Wh00sher said:
Rumour today that Kostecki has fallen out with Barry Ryan (is anyone shocked at Barry falling out with someone?) and he's leaving Erebus.

Considering he convincingly won the drivers title and they won the team title for the first time, something major must have happened for him to walk away and possibly sit out the season as he's still under contract.
Yeah, big shock. I have a feeling he’ll be off the the US instead.

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

237 months

Wednesday 31st January
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The plot thickens. Weird statement from Erebus today.

DanielSan

18,800 posts

168 months

Wednesday 31st January
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Wh00sher said:
Rumour today that Kostecki has fallen out with Barry Ryan (is anyone shocked at Barry falling out with someone?) and he's leaving Erebus.

Considering he convincingly won the drivers title and they won the team title for the first time, something major must have happened for him to walk away and possibly sit out the season as he's still under contract.
There always seems to be one common denominator when drivers leave Erebus

RiseUp

355 posts

53 months

Thursday 1st February
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It seems they’re trying to play the mental health card and rumours are that isn’t the case at all. It’ll be interesting to see what he has to say when he eventually does make a statement.