RE: Peugeot reveals Le Mans challenger

[skodaku]

tt280 said:

billy no brakes said:

Looks great but the ACO have restricted the size of the fuel tanks on diesels so they can not go further than the petrol cars thats where Audi had the edge last year.

Bill

....oh and the small matter of their restrictors being so big that they virtually made no difference, which gave them a theoretically possible 900bhp! but in reality they could turn the wick up to 800bhp+ when not in fuel saving mode.....and the special formulation diesel that Audi made for themselves, the excuse being that std diesel foams too much on refulling. Who ever saw spilt diesel evaporate leaving no residue behind?

Where is your problem with race-brew diesel ? All the F1 teams have their own-brew gasolines, (plural - different fuels for different circuits, atmospheric conditions, testing, racing), and I'll bet the LM boys do too. So, why not with the diesel boys. None of these fuels bear more than a passing resemblance to pump fuels anyway..............they're chemical brews and all logged with the FIA.

[fatboy18]

Looking forward to seeing this beast in action! mind you i bet it still wont sound as good as the Corvette's!!!!

[fatboy18]

I think the real question that has to be awnsered about this car is, Will it be able to out run the water pistols at the Houx roundabout?

[billy no brakes]

skodaku said:

tt280 said:

billy no brakes said:

Looks great but the ACO have restricted the size of the fuel tanks on diesels so they can not go further than the petrol cars thats where Audi had the edge last year.

Bill

....oh and the small matter of their restrictors being so big that they virtually made no difference, which gave them a theoretically possible 900bhp! but in reality they could turn the wick up to 800bhp+ when not in fuel saving mode.....and the special formulation diesel that Audi made for themselves, the excuse being that std diesel foams too much on refulling. Who ever saw spilt diesel evaporate leaving no residue behind?

Where is your problem with race-brew diesel ? All the F1 teams have their own-brew gasolines, (plural - different fuels for different circuits, atmospheric conditions, testing, racing), and I'll bet the LM boys do too. So, why not with the diesel boys. None of these fuels bear more than a passing resemblance to pump fuels anyway..............they're chemical brews and all logged with the FIA.

who said I had a problem I was just opointing out what changes the ACO had made to the rules

[TonyToniTone]

skodaku said:

Where is your problem with race-brew diesel ? All the F1 teams have their own-brew gasolines, (plural - different fuels for different circuits, atmospheric conditions, testing, racing)

FIA are very specific what they can do and fuels have to be close to those available on forecourts.

www.formula1.com/insight/rulesandregs/14/486.html

[hansgerd]

roop said:

I thought the same until I spoke with the bloke allegedly* responsible for VAG's diesel development. He admitted the PSA units were better in various ways. This is roadcars here of course, not racing.

* Anti-shafting insurance

The technical director is Ulrich Baretzky. The one responsible for diesel technology is Richard Bauder, I think.

[zebedee]

tigger1 said:

billy no brakes said:

Looks great but the ACO have restricted the size of the fuel tanks on diesels so they can not go further than the petrol cars thats where Audi had the edge last year.

Bill

Isn't that a bit like limiting the bhp of one car to be less than others just because it has a higher top speed? "Urmm...the diesel is 'too good' for the petrols to keep up, lets cripple it by making them go in reverse"

I think what they actually did was the change the rules so that in any given time, the car can take on the same amount of 'fuel energy'. The amount of 'energy' contained in a tank of diesel was more than the equivalent size of petrol tank, irrespective of fuel consumption, so they have tried to level the playing field that way. Audi didn't really win 2006 LM on fuel consumption alone anyway - speed and reliability were top drawer.

The big question for me is - how do the drivers get in and out? Assume the design needs some work towards reality, or its a flip up lid, but surely that would be banned because in a roll over (or Dumbreck flip) - if it lands on the roof, how could you get out?