RE: Cheap as chips racing
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[quote=johnnymaestro]CSCC Tin Tops Series
Club membership and Series membership= £95
Race Car= £1,900
Trailer= £500
Race Fuel for season= £140
Entry Fees for 7x40 mins (2 driver) races and 30 mins pratice= £1,950
Needed layout=£4,535
What i did with my Maestro last year for a full seasons racing sharing with my dad.
Seems to be the cheapest so far out of the above and you get doulbe the track time.
Please fell free to ask me any questions or See Here for more infomation,
www.classic-club.co.uk/
The Classic Sports Car Club, & "Tin Tops" in particular, did get a mention above! I thought that the Club's web site was:
www.classicsportscarclub.co.uk
Club membership and Series membership= £95
Race Car= £1,900
Trailer= £500
Race Fuel for season= £140
Entry Fees for 7x40 mins (2 driver) races and 30 mins pratice= £1,950
Needed layout=£4,535
What i did with my Maestro last year for a full seasons racing sharing with my dad.
Seems to be the cheapest so far out of the above and you get doulbe the track time.
Please fell free to ask me any questions or See Here for more infomation,
www.classic-club.co.uk/
The Classic Sports Car Club, & "Tin Tops" in particular, did get a mention above! I thought that the Club's web site was:
www.classicsportscarclub.co.uk
andy97 said:
[quote=johnnymaestro]CSCC Tin Tops Series
Club membership and Series membership= £95
Race Car= £1,900
Trailer= £500
Race Fuel for season= £140
Entry Fees for 7x40 mins (2 driver) races and 30 mins pratice= £1,950
Needed layout=£4,535
What i did with my Maestro last year for a full seasons racing sharing with my dad.
Seems to be the cheapest so far out of the above and you get doulbe the track time.
Please fell free to ask me any questions or See Here for more infomation,
www.classic-club.co.uk/
The Classic Sports Car Club, & "Tin Tops" in particular, did get a mention above! I thought that the Club's web site was:
www.classicsportscarclub.co.uk
Club membership and Series membership= £95
Race Car= £1,900
Trailer= £500
Race Fuel for season= £140
Entry Fees for 7x40 mins (2 driver) races and 30 mins pratice= £1,950
Needed layout=£4,535
What i did with my Maestro last year for a full seasons racing sharing with my dad.
Seems to be the cheapest so far out of the above and you get doulbe the track time.
Please fell free to ask me any questions or See Here for more infomation,
www.classic-club.co.uk/
The Classic Sports Car Club, & "Tin Tops" in particular, did get a mention above! I thought that the Club's web site was:
www.classicsportscarclub.co.uk
Sorry Andy you did metion it.
It is the NEW website
and address but old one also links to it. Edited by johnnymaestro on Tuesday 6th March 16:09
Most of these posts don't mention that the biggest single cost of all can be travel & accommodation unless you only race locally. Let's say you're based in Northants. Average fuel cost to get to meetings anywhere from Croft to Lydden is going to be £100 per meet. If you camp, good luck, but most would want B&B at least (esp wives & girlfriends) so as to be reasonably prepared for raceday. £30 min per person so at least £60 per race unless you're Billy No Mates. Don't think you can get up at 2am, drive for 4 hours, fit breakfast in and still make scrutineering for 8.30, you'll be wrecked even before qualifying. So for a season of 10 races budget at least £1600, and lots lots more if you take wear & tear on the Discovery into account.
If you pick and choose your events and car/ class you can race locally. There are regional series for FF1600 and there are the Castle Combe championships & regional clubs such as SEMSEC, BARC-SEC, Darlington & District and Welsh Sports & Saloons and all of these limit their travels & therefore expense. I don't race in any of these(!) but still manage to race a single seater at Midlands only events (Silverstone, Donington, Mallory, Cadwell & maybe Oulton) in single seater such as Monoposto 2000, BARC-SEC (now CTCRC) Single Seaters and (new for this year) Formula Free. I am lucky (!) to live in the Midlands but even a trip to Oulton or even Snetterton (2 & 3 hour towing trips) does not require an overnight stay unless you really want to. Even then, there are lenty of hardy people who rough it & sleep in the pit garage, back of a van or camp.
jmatras said:
robbiemeister said:
jmatras said:
How to make a small fortune racing:
Start with a large one.
Start with a large one.
Rob Walker
Ah, thanks for the attribution.
Now who was it who defined "boat" as a hole in the water into which you pour money?
Hehe - that's what or I thought, or keeping horses or whatever first started it.
You can just immagine at the dawn of history one of our ancestors quiping "You know how to make a small fortune - start with a large one and then go trading with the romans"
Surprised the BMW championship hasn't been mentioned - that kind of appealed to me. Must be about £500 for a usable E30 3 series, RWD, excellent.....
There's also the new VW Golf Mk2 race series hosted by 750mc as well. More at www.golfgtiracing.co.uk.
article said:
Classic Touring Car Racing
* Web: www.classictouringcars.com
* Car: £1,500+
* Estimated first year budget: £6,000
Have a penchant for something big and rear wheel drive? The Classic Touring Car Club has the answer in the pre-’93 Touring Car class.
If it had four seats and was marketed before ’93, with a few exceptions, then you can race it in one of six classes catering for cars up to and beyond 3.5 litres.
* Web: www.classictouringcars.com
* Car: £1,500+
* Estimated first year budget: £6,000
Have a penchant for something big and rear wheel drive? The Classic Touring Car Club has the answer in the pre-’93 Touring Car class.
If it had four seats and was marketed before ’93, with a few exceptions, then you can race it in one of six classes catering for cars up to and beyond 3.5 litres.
I'm guessing that the exceptions would stop one entering something like a mazda rx-7 twin turbo ('92-'96 in the UK). It has 4 seats as standard but the rears are more of a joke than useable!
Edited by iaint on Monday 26th March 14:00
Televised hig-profile prodsaloon racing for £10K arrive and drive...........
AMR Racing Limited, three-times Fiat Racing Challenge champions with Martin Riman and team principal Adrian Miller, have announced plans to build two Fiat Punto HGTs for the BARC/Dunlop Sport Maxx Cup. Miller has decided to build the two cars for Class B, encompassing his race winning Fiat Challenge experience, to run alongside the SEAT Leon FR that the team are entering in Class C., and hopes to sign two drivers before the first race at Snetterton on April 29th. Miller expects the 1.8 litre sixteen valve Puntos to offer a great value, but highly competitive route to success in the Cup. “With 127bhp per tonne they sit right at the top of Class B (up to 131bhp per tonne limit), yet offer a very low cost entry point into a well promoted, televised series.” The AMR Puntos will be available on an ‘arrive-and-drive’ basis for £10,000 for the twelve round (six double header) series, or are on sale at £7995+VAT to drivers who would prefer to run the cars themselves. James Bailey of Dunlop added: “An off the shelf, professionally built, ready to race car for under £8000 is evidence that the Dunlop Sport Maxx Cup can cater for club racers as well as professional teams and benefit from TV coverage and the promotional package that Dunlop Great and British Festivals receive” Ends
Contact: Adrian Miller 07703 498949 amrracing@hotmail.com
AMR Racing Limited, three-times Fiat Racing Challenge champions with Martin Riman and team principal Adrian Miller, have announced plans to build two Fiat Punto HGTs for the BARC/Dunlop Sport Maxx Cup. Miller has decided to build the two cars for Class B, encompassing his race winning Fiat Challenge experience, to run alongside the SEAT Leon FR that the team are entering in Class C., and hopes to sign two drivers before the first race at Snetterton on April 29th. Miller expects the 1.8 litre sixteen valve Puntos to offer a great value, but highly competitive route to success in the Cup. “With 127bhp per tonne they sit right at the top of Class B (up to 131bhp per tonne limit), yet offer a very low cost entry point into a well promoted, televised series.” The AMR Puntos will be available on an ‘arrive-and-drive’ basis for £10,000 for the twelve round (six double header) series, or are on sale at £7995+VAT to drivers who would prefer to run the cars themselves. James Bailey of Dunlop added: “An off the shelf, professionally built, ready to race car for under £8000 is evidence that the Dunlop Sport Maxx Cup can cater for club racers as well as professional teams and benefit from TV coverage and the promotional package that Dunlop Great and British Festivals receive” Ends
Contact: Adrian Miller 07703 498949 amrracing@hotmail.com
Just a quick newbie question,i've rallied for more years than I care to remember but fancy having a go in HSCC Historic Saloons in an IMP (cheapish and cheerful car!!)
I wouldn't be doing the whole series just the odd event when time allows,does anyone have any ideas of the costs involved? (Already have my own suit/boots/helmet etc)
Thanks
I wouldn't be doing the whole series just the odd event when time allows,does anyone have any ideas of the costs involved? (Already have my own suit/boots/helmet etc)
Thanks
Been reading this (oldish) thread with interest, and im possably looking at geting into some racing.
My uncal races a 2cv as part of a team of four, and has recently started his son (my cousin) on saxmax now that he's grown out of karting.
- Ive always loved the look of a seven and for the last year or two been slowly working on it as an definate option, rather than just a distant pipedream.
- Im currently 20 and studding mechincal engineering at loughborough, current mid way though a 'year in industry' at jcb before going back for another two years at loughborough.
Ive got around £5000 saved up, which i beleave should be enough to get a feasable car.
Whether i race a series (750 club etc) is open to debate, espically as my time is fairly presous and i already have a number of comitments, such as running a steam narrowboat, and my placement/university.
- However the aim would be to have the car as a second, road legal, car. That could be used on dry days. And on the track at trackdays. With the possabilty of borrowing/building a trailer to take it to events (incase its not in a fit state to be driven home).
Basicaly im just interested to read whats said, and to hear from anyone else who is doing a simular thing. Preferble someone whos also maybe at university.
Im going to see my uncal shortly and this will be the main topic of convostation, but im just trying to get upto speed myself and get some ideas down.
Daniel
My uncal races a 2cv as part of a team of four, and has recently started his son (my cousin) on saxmax now that he's grown out of karting.
- Ive always loved the look of a seven and for the last year or two been slowly working on it as an definate option, rather than just a distant pipedream.
- Im currently 20 and studding mechincal engineering at loughborough, current mid way though a 'year in industry' at jcb before going back for another two years at loughborough.
Ive got around £5000 saved up, which i beleave should be enough to get a feasable car.
Whether i race a series (750 club etc) is open to debate, espically as my time is fairly presous and i already have a number of comitments, such as running a steam narrowboat, and my placement/university.
- However the aim would be to have the car as a second, road legal, car. That could be used on dry days. And on the track at trackdays. With the possabilty of borrowing/building a trailer to take it to events (incase its not in a fit state to be driven home).
Basicaly im just interested to read whats said, and to hear from anyone else who is doing a simular thing. Preferble someone whos also maybe at university.
Im going to see my uncal shortly and this will be the main topic of convostation, but im just trying to get upto speed myself and get some ideas down.
Daniel
The Porsche 924 Championship is great fun, just about to do my third season and it should be closer than ever.
Cars are usually £3000+ and i think a first seasons budget would be around £5000ish
the racing really is very close, i think there were six drivers who could have won the championship at the last round in 2007,none of whom had massive budgets.
website - www.porscheracingdrivers.co.uk/
also - http://www.brscc.co.uk/porsche-924.html
Cars are usually £3000+ and i think a first seasons budget would be around £5000ish
the racing really is very close, i think there were six drivers who could have won the championship at the last round in 2007,none of whom had massive budgets.
website - www.porscheracingdrivers.co.uk/
also - http://www.brscc.co.uk/porsche-924.html
V8 Trophy. (www.v8trophy.com)
Cars available from £7K
Tyres (Hoosier) @ £125+VAT per corner - good for half a season (less if you do lots of testing).
Fuel. Cough!
Entries - TBA. Probably circa £200 per double header. Not running on the oval this year - all road courses.
Reverse grids at all races. Championship order for race 1, then race 1 order for race 2.
460bhp V8's
Navigation skills required via the side windows.
Yeee harrrr!
Cars available from £7K
Tyres (Hoosier) @ £125+VAT per corner - good for half a season (less if you do lots of testing).
Fuel. Cough!
Entries - TBA. Probably circa £200 per double header. Not running on the oval this year - all road courses.
Reverse grids at all races. Championship order for race 1, then race 1 order for race 2.
460bhp V8's
Navigation skills required via the side windows.
Yeee harrrr!
dhutch said:
Been reading this (oldish) thread with interest, and im possably looking at geting into some racing.
Ive got around £5000 saved up, which i beleave should be enough to get a feasable car.
Whether i race a series (750 club etc) is open to debate, espically as my time is fairly presous and i already have a number of comitments, such as running a steam narrowboat, and my placement/university.
- However the aim would be to have the car as a second, road legal, car. That could be used on dry days. And on the track at trackdays. With the possabilty of borrowing/building a trailer to take it to events (incase its not in a fit state to be driven home).
If you're not certain you want to race then start with track days. If your time is precious you will find out if you have enough to go racing before you spend all the money on licence, clothing, saftey kit etc? Ive got around £5000 saved up, which i beleave should be enough to get a feasable car.
Whether i race a series (750 club etc) is open to debate, espically as my time is fairly presous and i already have a number of comitments, such as running a steam narrowboat, and my placement/university.
- However the aim would be to have the car as a second, road legal, car. That could be used on dry days. And on the track at trackdays. With the possabilty of borrowing/building a trailer to take it to events (incase its not in a fit state to be driven home).
ps. it's uncle
shedman said:
If you're not certain you want to race then start with track days. If your time is precious you will find out if you have enough to go racing before you spend all the money on licence, clothing, saftey kit etc?
Yeah, sounds fair enough. I guess track days are less stringent saftey wise then?Certainly i make a lot of sence not to commit to racing before i can comit to the time involved or even know how much time is involved. I was just thinging in terms of buying a car, that if i was going to race at all it might make sense to get one that is already race-spec and fits into one of the pre-existing classes, such as club 750 locost? (locost chassis, 1300cc xflow, etc?)
- Also im not against a full rollcage. I dont expect to roll it obvously, but anything can happen, and i would consider a fully braced hoop a bare minimum really i think.
Appologes for the spelling as well i usally try better than that but im dyslexic as a fart, and trying to get caught by the boss!
Edited to add http://www.750mc.co.uk/classifieds/detail.asp?iTyp...
- Just seen this reading through the site, possably a bit over budget, and not my choice colour. But just thinking around. Also noticed my cousins 'spare' saxmax car on there. small world!
Also http://www.racecarsdirect.com/viewlisting.php?view...
Daniel
Edited by dhutch on Friday 1st February 18:32
shedman said:
If you're not certain you want to race then start with track days. If your time is precious you will find out if you have enough to go racing before you spend all the money on licence, clothing, saftey kit etc?
Yeah, sounds fair enough. I guess track days are less stringent saftey wise then?Certainly i make a lot of sence not to commit to racing before i can comit to the time involved or even know how much time is involved. I was just thinging in terms of buying a car, that if i was going to race at all it might make sense to get one that is already race-spec and fits into one of the pre-existing classes, such as club 750 locost? (locost chassis, 1300cc xflow, etc?)
- Also im not against a full rollcage. I dont expect to roll it obvously, but anything can happen, and i would consider a fully braced hoop a bare minimum really i think.
Appologes for the spelling as well i usally try better than that but im dyslexic as a fart, and trying to get caught by the boss!
Edited to add http://www.750mc.co.uk/classifieds/detail.asp?iTyp...
- Just seen this reading through the site, possably a bit over budget, and not my choice colour. But just thinking around. Also noticed my cousins 'spare' saxmax car on there. small world!
Also http://www.racecarsdirect.com/viewlisting.php?view...
Daniel
Edited by dhutch on Friday 1st February 18:33
dhutch said:
shedman said:
If you're not certain you want to race then start with track days. If your time is precious you will find out if you have enough to go racing before you spend all the money on licence, clothing, saftey kit etc?
Yeah, sounds fair enough. I guess track days are less stringent saftey wise then?Certainly i make a lot of sence not to commit to racing before i can comit to the time involved or even know how much time is involved. I was just thinging in terms of buying a car, that if i was going to race at all it might make sense to get one that is already race-spec and fits into one of the pre-existing classes, such as club 750 locost? (locost chassis, 1300cc xflow, etc?)
- Also im not against a full rollcage. I dont expect to roll it obvously, but anything can happen, and i would consider a fully braced hoop a bare minimum really i think.
Appologes for the spelling as well i usally try better than that but im dyslexic as a fart, and trying to get caught by the boss!
Edited to add http://www.750mc.co.uk/classifieds/detail.asp?iTyp...
- Just seen this reading through the site, possably a bit over budget, and not my choice colour. But just thinking around. Also noticed my cousins 'spare' saxmax car on there. small world!
Daniel
Edited by dhutch on Friday 1st February 11:03
shedman said:
Wouldn't put you off but go and look at a few. Also, just beware that a car advertised as front running actually has all the good bits on still on it
Yeah, i would defonatly go and see any car before buying, as well as proberbly needing to spend some time learning what to look for and seeing some bad cars!- However your point about making sure it still has all the 'good bits' on it is a very good point.
- I guess you could still advertise a car as having come 1st/2nd/3rd but actually have changed the engine/running gear/etc a lot since then.
Daniel
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