BBC Sports Personality of the Year

[Martin Keene]

tim the pool man said:

Martin Keene said:

If you want a true 'minority' sport, in terms of TV coverage, I give you fishing. At international level England has one of the most powerful and accomplished squads, out of 3 men ever to win 3 world titles, 2 are English, and one of them is only one man ever to win 3 on the trot... Ever heard any of that mentioned on Sports Personality?

Edited by Martin Keene on Friday 12th October 21:18

I'm bound to offend some with this, but fishing a sport? A passtime, yes, but hardly sport.
Fishing does get far more coverage in our Sunday Times" than motorsport ever does. I get quite annoyed when flicking through the paper to see pages of photos of proud fisherboys going "ooh look what I killed, aren't I the big hero"...

Depends on how you class a 'sport', I would also class football a passtime for most people, i.e. a quick kick around in a park, etc. What is a sport, to my mind it is competition, and on that basis fishing easily counts. Fishing also has it's fair share of professionals who make a living from it, which would surely not be possible from a passtime.

As for killing fish. It is illegal to kill coarse fish, and most anglers would be as put out by it as you appear to be.

[corozin]

Martin Keene said:

It is illegal to kill coarse fish, and most anglers would be as put out by it as you appear to be.

Surely you mean "course" fish? If I was fishing and some bloody trout swore at me I'd fish it out and beat it to death for sure

[belleair302]

How about the chap who now holds the TT record or Steve Curtis the Powerboat guy!!!

[Gregor Marshall]

So if LH wins the WDC he'll get SP and if he loses the WDC he'll get young SP??
I agree the person vs the sport is a huge differance; think this year is very open.

[gtr-gaz]

Gregor Marshall said:

.... think this year is very open.

I think it's a foregone conclusion

the only problem I can see, it's the BBC hosting the programe. Lewis is on ITV. So that means the Beeb will have to show clips from it's rival. I don't think they will enjoy doing that!

[motormania]

JW to win if they succeed this weekend against South Africa

[C9/89]

gtr-gaz said:

Gregor Marshall said:

.... think this year is very open.

I think it's a foregone conclusion

the only problem I can see, it's the BBC hosting the programe. Lewis is on ITV. So that means the Beeb will have to show clips from it's rival. I don't think they will enjoy doing that!

I dont think the "old rivalry" is quite the same now that satelite tv is in the ascendency, its just a matter of paying the "rights" money to show the clips!

[Martin Keene]

corozin said:

Martin Keene said:

It is illegal to kill coarse fish, and most anglers would be as put out by it as you appear to be.

Surely you mean "course" fish? If I was fishing and some bloody trout swore at me I'd fish it out and beat it to death for sure

Nope, coarse fishing is correct, as in fresh water rivers, streams, lakes, etc.

[toomuchbeer]

C9/89 said:

gtr-gaz said:

Gregor Marshall said:

.... think this year is very open.

I think it's a foregone conclusion

the only problem I can see, it's the BBC hosting the programe. Lewis is on ITV. So that means the Beeb will have to show clips from it's rival. I don't think they will enjoy doing that!

I dont think the "old rivalry" is quite the same now that satelite tv is in the ascendency, its just a matter of paying the "rights" money to show the clips!

But it's Bernies rights they have pay, not ITV.

[belleair302]

I am sure if LH wins and appears in his overalls, Vodafone or Johnnie Walker will pay! There is also a whole load of McLaren testing video footage which is outside of Bernie's clutches!

Edited by belleair302 on Wednesday 17th October 18:30

[heightswitch]

castrolcraig said:

nioks said:

BBC not keen on minority sports.... Discuss

you mean like the fact that james toseland wont even get a serious mention despite 2 world superbike titles and stacks of wins..............

He might do!

Foggy got one from memory.
N.

[Mr_Thyroid]

Gregor Marshall said:

So if LH wins the WDC he'll get SP and if he loses the WDC he'll get young SP??
I agree the person vs the sport is a huge differance; think this year is very open.

It depends on how he loses it - look at Mansell in '86 and Hill in '94.

Personally I don't care who wins. It's just a piece of BBC marketing for a sports highlights show.

[Dano 16]

The Uk`s best sportsman who never got reconised formally has got to be 7 times World Champion Dougy Lampkin.
IMHO

[Stig]

Dano 16 said:

The Uk`s best sportsman who never got reconised formally has got to be 7 times World Champion Dougy Lampkin.
IMHO

For a 1st post, that one is right on the money!

(speaking as a long time trials fans and rider )

[Dano 16]

Stig said:

Dano 16 said:

The Uk`s best sportsman who never got reconised formally has got to be 7 times World Champion Dougy Lampkin.
IMHO

For a 1st post, that one is right on the money!

(speaking as a long time trials fans and rider )

Theres not many sports people out there who dominated his sport world wide for so long and you would probably understand the skill involved in this sport.I rode trials with Dougy as a youth and competed on the SSDT this year where are you from?

[Broccers]

Mr_Thyroid said:

It's just a piece of BBC marketing for a sports highlights show.

Which is now outdated as they carry little on their airwaves.

I reckon Murray should win .... oh hang on he doesn't have a personality.

[gtr-gaz]

Looking good for Lewis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/homepage/int/pr/no/h1/t/sp...

[Broomsticklady]

Martin Keene said:

If you want a true 'minority' sport, in terms of TV coverage, I give you fishing. At international level England has one of the most powerful and accomplished squads, out of 3 men ever to win 3 world titles, 2 are English, and one of them is only one man ever to win 3 on the trot... Ever heard any of that mentioned on Sports Personality?

So - not one of the minnows of the fishing world, then.... (sorry - someone had to!)

[cougarracing]

woouldnt it be ronic if hamilton lost it to hatton by one point! LOL

[alman]

maybe the wrong forum here but I reckon Calzaghe should have it-or maybe hatton depending on next weeks result.